OMFG, these gay people are sick assholes. They disgust me.

[cboy4]

GIULIANI EMERGING AS FAVORITE OF GAYS

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070505/ap_on_el_pr/gay_republicans_4

DENVER - Rudy Giuliani emerged as a favorite among many members of the GOP's largest gay organization, who cited his record on social issues, taxes and defense.

<snip>

...Sammon called Giuliani "a very strong leader with an inclusive record."

David Keeton, a small-business owner in Dallas, and his partner, Rob Schlein, said they supported Giuliani because of his record as New York mayor and his response to the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

"I'm an American first, then a Republican second, and gay falls in third or fourth," said Keeton, who wore a
Ronald Reagan pin on his lapel. :wtf:


I'm sorry but you are disgusting for voting our/my civil rights third or fourth. :puke:

The Repukes can have you, you self loathing, worthless assholes.

Oh these Log Cabin Repukes infuriate me.

How can you possibly vote GOP if you're gay?

Talk about a brain disorder.

[Bluebear]

1. "they supported Giuliani because of his record as New York mayor"???

:rofl: fucken saps.

[and-justice-for-all]

14. exactly the part I was going point out...

..Im Gay and I find supporting any Rethug to be counter productive. More then likely, those "gays' already have cash and do not give a shit about the others in their tribe or the things that affect us like Equal rights.

[Richard Steele]

2. Oh, -THOSE- gay people. I gotta agree with you there, then. Unbelievable and disgusting.

Heck of a provocative thread title you got there! :thumbsup:

[donheld]

3. This gay guy says nothing, it's real hard to talk when you

:puke:

[Swamp Rat]

4. Maybe Keeton is not really gay but just a paid shill.

Maybe he's Karl Rove's lover. :D

[cboy4]

5. OMG

BULLSHIT ALERT

[charlie]

6. Note the hetero graphic

Chickenshits.

[cboy4]

7. I know! They are insane.

[charlie]

9. I can kinda, sorta, maybe

understand subordinating their gayness to other issues, ideology, whatever. But throwing their lot in with the party that would gladly legislate them out of existence if it could get away with it is a special kind of dumb. And declaring their fealty to that party in their name is compound dumbness. If they were Conservative Gays of America or somesuch, the Republicans would have to woo them every election cycle, but they've made that less likely by making it clear they're already Republicans.

[Carolina]

29. and black people at that

Aren't most Log cabiners white males?

[Jamastiene]

8. Something ain't right about that bunch.

They remind me of people who stand around hitting themselves for no apparent reason. They might as well be if they insist on voting Republican. :crazy:

[Swamp Rat]

13. Who the hell do they think they are fooling?

:eyes:

[man4allcats]

10. Gay people are as principled as straight people.

Unfortunately, they are just as often as unprincipled as straight people. Some of them even vote Republican.

[sam sarrha]

12. gay is normal... Republicanism is an Abomination to gOD

[man4allcats]

15. Good point!

Too often, people think that "normal" is defined by whatever they are, a decidedly biased view. In fact, as you note, gay is as normal as straight. Again though, if I may paraphrase your words, Republicanism is just twisted. It cannot be rationalized - period.

[sam sarrha]

11. he just got a a crush on Rudy from his Marylin Drag photo...

[xchrom]

16. ...

:puke:

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Log Cabin Republicans is kinda like Jews for David Duke

[no_hypocrisy]

19. Well even Hitler got SOME Jewish votes in 1932 as he was staunchly

anti-communistic and for that reason, he garnered the small business vote which included some Jewish business owners. He hadn't made his "Mein Kampf" policy part of the his campaign.

[JohnLocke]

26. That's not true.

Antisemitism was certainly a major part of Nazi political campaigns from the party's inception. Everybody knew it.

Jews usually voted for the German Democratic Party or similar parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Democratic_Party) or the Social Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany).
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DAP election poster, 1930 with Star of David on the head of a serpent (Memorial to the German Resistance, Berlin)
----
... Nuremberg remained a party stronghold, and the first Nuremberg rally was held there in 1927. These rallies soon became massive displays of Nazi paramilitary power, and attracted many recruits. The Nazis’ strongest appeal was to the lower middle-class – farmers, public servants, teachers, small businessmen – who had suffered most from the inflation of the 1920s and who feared Bolshevism more than anything else. The small business class were receptive to Hitler’s anti-Semitism, since they blamed Jewish big business for their economic problems. University students, disappointed at being too young to have served in World War I and attracted by the Nazis’ radical rhetoric, also became a strong Nazi constituency. By 1929 the party had 130,000 members.<3>

Despite these strengths, the Nazi Party might never have come to power had it not been for the Great Depression: By 1930 the German economy was beset with mass unemployment and widespread business failures. The SPD and the KPD parties were bitterly divided and unable to formulate an effective solution; this gave the Nazis their opportunity, and Hitler’s message, blaming the crisis on the Jewish financiers and the Bolsheviks (also "controlled by the Jews") resonated with wide sections of the electorate....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
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As explained above, most Jews in the countryside did not take an active part in political life. Before 1930 most of them voted for a small Democratic Party, Deutsche Staatspartei. But after that year most of them shifted their allegiance to the Social Democrats (SPD) whom they regarded as the only force capable of containing the Nazis. In the early 1930s only a few Jews took an active part in this party's activities: for example, in the village of Gedern and in the town of Oppenheim. Many Jews supported the elderly Field Marshal Hindenburg in the presidential elections and regarded him as the protector of Jews loyal to the fatherland against Hitler.

According to Engel, the Ortenburg Jews sympathized with the " Freisinn " movement and later voted for the Demokratische Staatspartei, known also as Deutsche Staatspartei; see Kaufman Collection 072/71. In the Reichstag elections the Jewish vote went to different parties, including the German nationalist right; therefore, one may only point to overall trends, without solid statistical proof. According to Aynor, some Jews even voted for the Catholic political party Zentrum; Interview with Aynor.

"including the German nationalist right" seems to imply that very small number of Jews may have voted for German nationalist parties OTHER than the Nazis.

http://www.icons-multimedia.com/ClientsArea/HoH/LIBARC/LIBRARY/Themes/Policy/Kaufman.html

[Hippo_Tron]

18. I think American Dad has an explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ae5UxFAvI&mode=related&search=

[Prophet 451]

20. It's called wealth

Most of the Log Cabin Rethugs I've talked to have been wealthy enough to make private legal arrangements which give them much the same rights that you and yours would be relying on marriage (or something very similar) for.

[cboy4]

21. Sorry but that's baloney. You can't just make up your own personal

laws just because you have money.

Sure, you might be able to bribe some people, such as being allowed to visit your sick partner in the hospital (if you're not married.)

Otherwise, there's not a chance in hell certain "rights" would hold up in court.

This is why it's so ludicrous these Log Cabin idiots support such an anti-gay party.

[Prophet 451]

22. Not what I meant

Think of the legal rights that go with marriage and many of them (not all but many) can be duplicated by legal documents drawn up privately. A joint power of attorney gives the other partner the co-signing and medical care powers that normally go with marriage and so on. Granted, some of them wouldn't stand up in court but many of them would.

[donco6]

23. Just like straights - some gay people are idiots.

We may have great taste and decorating ability, but damn, some of us are just dumb as a bag of hammers.

[Marr]

24. In other words, "I'm a greed head. Love is disposable".

It's pretty much the same sentiment I hear from straight Republicans. "Give me money, I don't care about people".

I don't see any reason why the gay population should be free of this sort of asshat, so gay Republicans don't surprise me.

[Cerridwen]

25. In my experience, which is in no way exhaustive nor necessarily

indicative of anything other than my experience, Log Cabin Republicans are more concerned with economic issues, e.g. acquiring wealth and "power" than they are in social issues; including their own civil rights. The old "I've got mine, screw you" mentality.

Just as there have been white, middle-class, women feminists I've worked with who are racist or homophobic but want women in "power" to secure their economic security; we used to call them "power 'feminists'" as they are fine with the status quo, they just want to be at the top of the pyramid.

When we value money over people, we get "people" who will sell their very civil rights in favor of economic "success".

[karlrschneider]

27. Auntie Tom syndrome

...

[gratuitous]

28. The truly disgusting thing is the media double standard

When you're watching the talking chuckleheads programs, it's mostly straight rich white guys. We hear all sorts of apologias for the war, the massive deficits run up by Republicans, and of course those lovely, lovely tax cuts. But you don't hear very much about opposition to the war (the inevitable guy in the rainbow fright wig doesn't count), responsible fiscal policy, or how tilted the playing field is in favor of the overrich. Why not? Well, according to an informal survey of producers' rolodexes, those are minority opinions that don't deserve to be aired.

But a Log Cabin Republican? Hell, they get play all over the media, because they're . . . contrarian! So story after story about this teeny, tiny minority gets big play because they're just so refreshing and unexpected. But a "straight" story (no pun intended) about the overwhelming majority of the gay community and their legitimate concerns about such pedestrian issues as housing, employment, and raising a family in peace just disappear. Nobody wants to see that! Everybody knows how "those" people think. We don't want to show that. No, let's give airplay to gays who vote Republican.

By the way, are there any lesbians in the Log Cabin Republicans? I don't recall that I've ever seen one.