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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 03:50 PM
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USAgate: ELSTON FINGERS MCNULTY IN WITNESS TAMPERING; 10 yr. PENALTY!
Edited on Fri May-04-07 04:35 PM by Dems Will Win
McNULTY MUG SHOT


Looks like Obstruction of Justice and Witness Tampering to me -- and unltimately by the higher-ups at Justice. Few people likely to go to jail here!

This is going to turn out to be the way into the criminal part of USAgate - it's very significant.

Title 18 Part 1, Chapter 73, Section 1512 :

(b) Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1) influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2) cause or induce any person to—
(A) withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;

A is ten years in Federal prison.

Subsection (c):

(c) Whoever corruptly—
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Subsection (d):

(d) Whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders, delays, prevents, or dissuades any person from—
(1) attending or testifying in an official proceeding.



Justice Official Says He Was Directed To Call Fired Prosecutors
By Murray Waas, National Journal

The chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty has told congressional investigators that phone calls he placed to four fired U.S. attorneys -- calls that three of the prosecutors say involved threats about testifying before Congress -- were made at McNulty's direction.

Michael Elston, the chief of staff, told congressional investigators in a closed-door session on March 30 that McNulty specifically instructed him to make the phone calls after the Justice Department's No. 2 official learned that the fired prosecutors might testify before Congress about their dismissals.

A transcript of Elston's confidential interview with the congressional investigators was made available to National Journal.

The U.S. attorneys have said that Elston, in effect, told them that if they kept quiet about their dismissals, the Justice Department would not suggest that they had been forced to resign because of poor performance.

At least one member of Congress has questioned whether the phone calls might constitute obstruction of justice.

...

On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee made public formal correspondence from three fired prosecutors who said they thought that Elston was trying to intimidate them into keeping quiet.

...

...

Whitehouse pressed Cummins: "But if that sort of approach had been made to a witness in an active proceeding that you were leading, and you were extremely proactive about it, that would lead you where?"

"Well, we'd certainly investigate it and see if a crime had occurred."

"And the crime would be?"

Cummins responded: "Obstruction of justice. I think there are several statutes that might be implicated -- but obstruction of justice."

...

Finally, Whitehouse looked toward Carol Lam, the fired U.S. attorney from San Diego.

She answered without hesitation: "Fundamentally the same answer: witness intimidation."

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/070503nj1.htm


Remember to recommend to get the word out! This is the thread that will unravel Abu...

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:02 PM
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1. Help me keep this kicked!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:03 PM
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2. Kickety-kick-kick
oh yeah and recommend....
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:03 PM
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3. k&r
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:06 PM
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4. looks to me the law was broken
but as usual, Elston won't take responsiblity and points to the next guy. didn't he know it was against the law? :argh:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:10 PM
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8. "I work at the Department of Justice, but I'm unfamiliar with the law."
I can hear it now.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:11 PM
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9. IMO, if McNulty is guilty so is this moran n/t
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:13 PM
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12. Gonzales defense - no hablo Ingles.....
Since when is it okay to be dumb as a stump at this level of position?

I know they're just pretending to be this dumb, but give me a break.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:23 PM
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22. Another Regent U grad...
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:06 PM
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5. K&R
Still going! A veritable Energizer Bunny among scandals!!

:evilgrin:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:09 PM
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6. k&r
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:09 PM
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7. Yes, indeed, as defined in Title 18 United States Code Section 1515
"official proceeding" includes a "a proceeding before the Congress" so these folks are really subject to that law!

Absolutely astonishing.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:12 PM
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10. Too bad Jeff Gannon isn't involved. ELSTON FINGERS MCNULTY....
That would be very amusing.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:13 PM
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11. K&R
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:15 PM
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13. Obstruction of justice and witness intimidation. Just another day in BushCabal™ land.
Remember that bunch that was gonna "restore honor and integrity"
to the White House 6 years ago? Whatever happened to them?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:10 PM
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20. Sometimes to restore honor and integrity ya gotta break a few arms.
Edited on Fri May-04-07 05:11 PM by hootinholler
:evilgrin:

-Hoot
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:49 PM
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32. Kneecaps, pal, kneecaps. (eom)
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 01:23 AM
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49. or apparently break a few laws...
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 09:08 AM
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58. How about this for a bumper sticker? "Neocons. Just say, 'No' to murder... you know it makes sense."
Edited on Sat May-05-07 09:37 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:20 PM
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14. Thank you. K & R.
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:23 PM
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15. This bunch is self-destructing at light speed now.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:11 PM
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21. I think we just went to Warp 3
Edited on Fri May-04-07 05:13 PM by Dems Will Win


Engage!

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:37 PM
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16. Finally.....now we will start to see progress on real justice getting served.
This will loosen a lot of tongues. I imagine that alleigence to Party comes 2nd to a 10 year potential jail term. They'll be lots of singing soon in Washington.

Alberto's next appearance on the Hill ought to be quite interesting. Will he resign or face indictment?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:40 AM
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54. Does Congress bring charges to bring these people to jail?
or does Congress have lawyers to file the charges?
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:38 PM
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17. Happy to kick
:kick:
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 04:52 PM
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18. Kick!
:kick: :kick:
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coznfx Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 05:59 AM
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50. Kick'idee Kick Kick! & R 2
:kick: :kick: :kick: and rec'd 2
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:03 PM
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19. the lil coderie of Fredo's friends -- Goodling Sampson Griffin Elston & McNulty
these people are running the Dept. of Justice for the Chimp in Charge?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:43 PM
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23. Numnuts all
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:54 PM
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24. Kick & Nominated
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:01 PM
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26. Criminal charges for quite a few Rethugs are on the way.
I still strongly feel that Gonzo needs to be Impeached in order to get to the reality of what occured at the DOJ.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 05:58 PM
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25. Why do Republicons hate America?
They trash our honored system of democracy, and then lie lie lie about it...
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:08 PM
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27. Kickyaroo
And recommended too! This is big...let's see some jail time.

:kick:
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gillamonster Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:09 PM
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28. K & R
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:19 PM
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29. I haven't trusted McNulty ever since
I started delving into the Sibel Edmonds situation.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:45 PM
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30. Department of Justice my ass! n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:46 PM
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31. The pic: Opie Taylor or Doogie Howser?
These young fresh-faced crooks crack me up.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:08 PM
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34. Like Delay's Mug Shot I thought....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 06:59 PM
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33. And how bout that sleeza.... she in jail yet? Contempt of Congressional subpoena...
what went down with that if anything?
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aspencer Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:10 PM
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35. Witness intimidation? Ouch!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:22 PM
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40. A decade in the pokey
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:11 PM
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36. Smells like Friday
Super duper news dump. Nice!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:15 PM
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37. There should be a Progressive You Tube video every Friday
THE FRIDAY NIGHT NEWS DUMP
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:27 PM
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38. Marcy Wheeler is saying Elston is lying to protect Gonzo and Turdblossom!!
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 08:52 AM
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57. Yep, I read her post.....
I tend to go with her expertise on this matter.
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ManOfTheYear Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:30 AM
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64. Is there a link to Marcy Wheeler??
38. Marcy Wheeler is saying Elston is lying to protect Gonzo and Turdblossom!!

link?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:51 PM
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39. K and R
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:28 PM
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41. Do you think bu$h and abu play uninvolved to distance themselves from the crimeS?
Abu was *'s attorney after all.

Thanks for making my evening w this post! I hope this is the "one" but having thought that so many times before....
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:28 PM
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42. Kick And Recommend nt
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:53 PM
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43. Alice S. Fisher is another major loyal Bushie at DoJ-kick
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:08 AM
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44. They tried to f*** with something a little too wrought for them.
The Justice Department.

They ultimately made a big miscalculation in 2001 and 2005; they thought they didn't have to scrutinize each and every candidate for 'bushitis'. They thought that the AG could keep them all 'in line'. They didn't count on a number of USAs doing their job with impunity.

But what they didn't realize was that this particular facet of our Democracy is so bound to the law that even those fascist bastards couldn't corrupt it so easily.

Could they have?

-Sure.

Their mistake?

-Arrogance.

This is beautiful to watch.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 01:18 AM
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48. hmmm
nice post.. yeah, it's so brazen. I can't believe they tried to totally politicize the Justice Dept., tells us all how INSANE they are...
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 01:14 AM
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45. k+r
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 01:16 AM
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46. oh they'll get time, don't worry
this is pretty obvious... they're falling totally apart, like, totally! where's my popcorn??? oh there it is! :popcorn:

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 01:18 AM
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47. The more the corrupt little bobble heads just try to
cheat lie intimidate it backfires
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:01 AM
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51. obstruction of justice
obstruction of justice

obstruction of justice

obstruction of justice

obstruction of justice

obstruction of justice

:kick:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:20 AM
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53. Damn...
I guess it might turn out to be a good thing after all that Halliburton has been busy building all that extra jail space.

Sign from the future..."George W BushCo Library/Maximum Security Big-house...No Vacancy!"
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:11 AM
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52. I got one word for you
:popcorn: popcorn

buy stock in popcorn companies... if it takes off like I think it will, lots of people will be buying lots of popcorn :evilgrin:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:54 AM
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55. Boyscout gone wild.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 07:57 AM
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56. Woo Hoo !!! - K & R !!!
:kick::woohoo::kick:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 09:18 AM
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59. yee-HAH!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 09:38 AM
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60. Obstruction - Looks pretty obvious to me
And IANAL.

K&R.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:23 AM
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61. I wouldn't doubt it if
the suicide rate jumped sharply at the Justice Dept in the very near future.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:28 AM
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62. Thanks for the thread, Dems Will Win
Kicked and recommended
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:29 AM
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63. The cancer in DOJ is spreading
Thanks for the story link.

Sonia
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:50 AM
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65. Patience above all else is paramount - give the Repukes time to hang themselves....
Only the 'unwavering - almighty' BASE might believe that this isn't going to end up at the feet of Turdblossom and others in the White House - let's just let it happen.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 10:54 AM
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66. Is it just me, or does that face say "Republican" all over it?
the McNulty "mug" shot above?

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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 11:57 AM
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69. No it is the hair that has "Republican" all over it. n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 11:31 AM
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67. "Who will rid me of these meddlesome AGs ?"
Edited on Sat May-05-07 11:37 AM by EVDebs
"Passionate words from the angry king, reputedly either "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?", "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?", "Who will revenge me of the injuries I have sustained from one turbulent priest?", or even "What a band of loathsome vipers I have nursed in my bosom who will let their lord be insulted by this low-born cleric!", were interpreted as a royal command, and four knights—Reginald Fitzurse, Hugh de Moreville, William de Traci, and Richard Brito—set out to plot the assassination of the archbishop. On Tuesday, December 29, 1170, they carried out their plan. Becket was killed inside Canterbury Cathedral itself, in a spot near a door to the monastic cloister, the stairs into the crypt, and the stairs leading up into the quire of the cathedral, where the monks were chanting vespers. Several contemporary accounts of the assassination exist; of particular note is that of Edward Grim, who was himself wounded in the attack."

Thomas Becket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Becket

Now comes Karl Rove and his master. Now comes the CIA/GOP money spigot,

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA. "

FBI probes Watergate prostitution allegations
--Infamous hotel used by defense contractor to entertain lawmakers?
Prostitutes for lawmakers at Watergate?
May 4, 2006: The bribery scandal involving former U.S. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham opened up a new line of inquiry for investigators: hospitality suites run by lobbyists. NBC's Lisa Myers reports
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250/

What was Carol Lam fired for ? BTW, check the date on the story above (one YR ago !). This is why Bushco squashed these investigations: the payola and power via the CIA's 'national security' defense ("if I tell you, I'll have to kill you"--try telling that to a Congressional committee).

This is the Octopus behind the Watergate money, the Iran-Contra 'off the shelf' programs, BCCI, and TODAY ! Congress can kill the beast, if it wants to restore Democracy. Now is the time !





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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 11:54 AM
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68. May this thread be an accurate prediction of things to come
Edited on Sat May-05-07 11:55 AM by BrklynLiberal






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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 02:49 PM
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72. That's them -- that's who did it yer honor!
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:26 PM
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70. K+R!
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 12:32 PM
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71. k&r
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 03:06 PM
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73. k n r n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 03:24 PM
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74. This is, well, in - freakin' - credible. If you tried to WRITE this as fiction, your editor would
tell you your plot line was too farfetched!!

These guys are EVIL BUFFOONS....!!!!!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 01:20 PM
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75.  a kick and a related thread about the politicized criminal networks
that are directed from the WH
"For the record and in keeping with what we know, so far, here are Karl's girls" started by Fridays Child 3-31-07
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