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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:45 PM Original message |
AZ Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ihre papiere, bitte. |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Bumagi, pozhalusta |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
98. Better in cyrillic and it should be 'documents'..... |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. I don't have Cyrillic on my keyboard. |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Yeah you do.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think all of us brown people should head over to Arizona |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'd join you if I could... and I'd fake an accent too... or pretend I couldn't speak english. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I'd have to wait for later this summer (in training) but |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. If I wasn't afraid of being put in jail |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. LOL. Maybe you better hold off, goclark. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. I'd look at em straight in the face and say... |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 03:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
86. Fake accent? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. I'm hoping some brown law enforcement officers or successful |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. GMTA. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. hope they ask Boehner for his papers |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Um, well, maybe orange people are exempt |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-27-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
112. And rimshot! |
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truth2008 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
99. Boehner |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. Could I pretend to be a Canadian? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Can you say "Ey" convincingly? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Oh yeah, like, g'day, eh? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. Who the fuck carries their birth certificate with them? |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Could a cop actually tell a legitimate certificate from a fake |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Some states issue a wallet sized card as a birth certificate. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 07:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
96. My state does not, perfect example of the need for a National ID card |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. AZ doesn't recognize Mr. President's birth certificate. |
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icnorth (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
94. Joe Arapiao can differentiate |
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catrose (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
97. Mine says less than Obama's |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. A person on a stroll or jogging should carry no ID. |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Actually joggers should carry some form of ID. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Not supposed to carry Social Security cards on your person. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Good point. |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Government-issued ID is not required by law, and never has been in the US. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. ditto. have no clue where mine is. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
105. I have a copy of birth cert. on me at all times. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. It is racial profiling. If he were a Canadian trucker, he wouldn't have been stopped. n/t |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Canadian truckers come in all races and colours. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. You know what I mean. Although your browner Canadians maybe need to |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Just as 'browner' truckers from the U.S. or Mexico will have |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tragic. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. hopefully he will be the first in line to sue them. He should get in touch |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. Before the new laws saying I have to have a passport |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Arizona really needs to implement an 'efficient' system. How about tattooed forearms? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. How about Arizona cops memorize the complete list of persons legally in the US? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. Or better yet, persons deemed as Hispanic would only be allowed to travel betwen 8am and 5pm |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
68. Wrong place for the tattoo IMO. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. How many of us could produce a birth certificate or passport on demand? |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. For people in Arizona they will have to start carrying these documents or risk being hauled to jail |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. i don't carry a birth certificate around!! or a social security card. that would be a nightmare sh |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
80. When I wanted to get a birth certificate a few years ago, it took three weeks. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. Exactly. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. I wonder if AZ can handle this happening hundreds of times every day |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. I think the cops will (a)revolt at the volume of useless work or(b) use the law for sheer harassment |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
104. The INS is now part of Homeland Security |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's simple |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. Everyone should print one of those FAKE Kenyan Birth certificates |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. DUzy! nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. DUzy rec #2 |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 03:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
89. Here is the link if there are any takers |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. So it begins |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't have a passport and I don't have my birth certificate. I've had a drivers license since 16, |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. And you don't want to carry your bc with you for the same reason. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. I suspect that the b.s. will screw up ordinary commerce SO badly |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. You are probably right. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. Even Obama probably can't convince Arizonans he's American |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Perhaps that is the point. To arrest Obama and make him prove he is legit. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I'm sure if he visited the state there would be thousands insisting he be forced to show his papers |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
81. You didn't hear about the other bill that passed in AZ last week? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. If I were Obama I'd schedule a visit to the state immediately. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
83. Remember that hate cult church in Tempe |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. This will expose people's primary documentation |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
84. Yeah, what is the point of even having your birth certificate when one that has been validated by |
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Rozlee (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #84 |
102. My sisters back in the 40s weren't born in hospitals. They have birth certificates by affadavits |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. Just because she signed it, does not make it go into effect immediately |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. That's right. August. Well, that gives people time to prepare. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
109. The good news on that is that, just in the few days since |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. I hope he sues! |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. I need to get the photo on my birth certificate updated |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. thats a bunch of BULLSHIT.. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
34. Its a treasonous RW white supremacist tea bagger law & AZ republicans are the spear head... |
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ArizonaLiberal (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. It has been simmering here... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yeah, long time and thx for posting |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. they need to change their State name to "Terror-Zona". |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. Are they going to make people post bail? Pay a fine? |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. They are too evil to care about spending |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. Heckuva job, AZ electorate. You've made white supremacists everywhere proud. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. Universal ID I can understand. It makes sense. Driver's license/State ID, whatever. But a PASSPORT? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. And so it begins... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
56. Let the law suits begin! |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. As Daily Kos points out, the lawsuits will go BOTH ways |
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agentS (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. This new law is BS and this incident is Exhibit fucking A as to why |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The new law hasn't even taken effect yet |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. A number of LEO agencies came out against this POS before it was signed. |
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BolivarianHero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
64. Interesting... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
85. Or 1950's America |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
66. Famous people need to "test" this new law with cameras rolling |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. If he was born in the USA then he most likely did not have |
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BrentWil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yes it is.. |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
73. I would be shit out of luck |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
76. I'm looking forward to the lawsuit. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. ah yes, more great ideas from the people who complain about how Obama is stealing their freedoms |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. This is simply more racism . . . bigotry -- |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
88. k&r |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
90. I wish Obama WOULD visit Arizona, and say a few small border towns known for their RW cops |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
91. ok... really. this shit has to end. I expect my govt to squash this quickly. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
92. Even though the Democrats in Arizona knew |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
93. My rec |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
100. Teabagger terrorists and other racists are now proud to announce... |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
101. I can't wait for Lou Dobbs' wife to get asked for ID n/t |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
103. There's more to this story, I think. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
106. This is "them" and "us" legislation . . . if you're now demanding a birth certificate from |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-26-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
108. he provided his social security number? |
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