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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:56 AM
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I'm on hold to speak to Dave Barber. Help me collect info about Rudy Giuliani and 9/11
Edited on Fri May-04-07 08:57 AM by IanDB1
Let's get a-googling please!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:00 AM
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1. This woman on cspan this morning said that RudyG was in a federal
prison for 18 months. Does anyone know if that is true? The moderator didn't believe her.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:59 AM
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12. No, that's crazy. She must have meant his dad....
... who was a low level organized crime associate and did time somewhere.

I don't like Rudy... but he was actually very tough on mafia stuff while US prosecutor.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:06 AM
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2. Der Rudy Thread
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:26 AM by IanDB1
Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11 (Hardcover)
Wayne Barrett and Dan Collins
BUZZFLASH REVIEWS
http://www.buzzflash.com/store/reviews/315

Keith Olbermann - Special Comment (4/25/07)
Topic started by Nomad559 on Apr-25-07 09:27 PM (78 replies)
Last modified by JoeySoCal on Apr-28-07 03:22 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=24707

Archive for the 'Rudy Giuliani' Category
http://www.crooksandliars.com/category/republican-party/rudy-giuliani/

> New book blows the lid off Giuliani's "hero" image from 9/11, by Wayne Barrett and Dan Collins
http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=17607&mode=linear

Nasty verbal fight ensues between Duncan Hunter and Giuliani supporters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x246403


March 30, 2007
Testimony by Giuliani Indicates He Was Briefed on Kerik in ’00
By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

Rudolph W. Giuliani told a grand jury that his former chief investigator remembered having briefed him on some aspects of Bernard B. Kerik’s relationship with a company suspected of ties to organized crime before Mr. Kerik’s appointment as New York City police commissioner, according to court records.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/30/us/politics/30rudy.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin


Friday, March 30, 2007
Friday: Take Off Your Pants
It's casual Friday, and Sam's relaxing so much, he's even letting his back hair down. Give us a call, we're taking all comers, at 866-303-2270. In the first hour we'll welcome Joe Conason in studio, and after that, we'll host our very own Sam Seder Show Purity Ball. Bring the kiddies close to the radio transmitter, and we'll cleanse their souls. Or at least give them a good bath.
http://samsedershow.blogspot.com/2007/03/friday-take-off-your-pants.html


Firemen douse Rudy’s image as 9/11 hero
Union bid to halt White House run

<snip>

Behind the union’s attack lies the grief and anger of families who believe their loved ones need not have died that day and their conviction that some bodies would never have been recovered had Giuliani had his way.

Jim Riches, 29, had been helping to rescue office workers in the north tower when it collapsed. In the dust and debris, his fellow firefighters did not realise that the south tower had already crashed to the ground. Despite the terrifying noise, survivors say they thought only the top storeys had toppled. They never heard the order to evacuate. “My son could have had 30 minutes to escape,” Riches Sr said.

The firefighters were still using the antiquated “handie-talkie” radios that failed to work during the 1993 bombing of the twin towers, when Giuliani was also mayor. He not only failed to replace them, but also located the city’s new emergency command centre at the World Trade Center against the advice of key officials. It proved useless when it was most needed.

Lack of communication also meant that warnings from police helicopters about an imminent collapse failed to get through.

More:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1530535.ece



You’ll Never Look At Potholes The Same Way Again
By: Nicole Belle on Sunday, March 25th, 2007 at 4:15 PM - PDT

I think I might have to write a diet book based on blogging about Republicans, because this story has sure sickened me to the point of not eating again. Dear God, what would you say to the children of the victims of 9/11? "Daddy loved you very much and you can think of him every time we drive on West 64th to Amsterdam Drive"? It's just sickening.

Kansas City Star: (h/t Sisyphus Shrugged)

The pulverized remains of bodies from the World Trade Center disaster site were used by city workers to fill ruts and potholes, a city contractor says in a sworn affidavit filed Friday in Manhattan Federal Court.

Eric Beck says debris powders - known as fines - were put in a pothole-fill mixture by crews at the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island, N.Y., where more than 1.65 million tons of World Trade Center debris were deposited after the Sept. 11 attacks.

"I observed the New York City Department of Sanitation taking these fines from the conveyor belts of our machines, loading it onto tractors and using it to pave roads and fill in potholes, dips and ruts," Eric Beck said.

Beck was the senior supervisor for Taylor Recycling, a private contractor hired to sift through debris trucked to Fresh Kills after the trade center attacks. Before the arrival of Taylor's equipment at Fresh Kills in October 2001, the debris was sifted manually by workers using rakes and shovels.

Beck's affidavit was filed by lawyers for the families of Sept. 11 victims who are suing the city in hopes of creating a formal burial place for debris that they say contains human remains.

"It's devastating," Norman Siegel, an attorney representing the families, said of Beck's statement. "When the 9/11 families found about this, they were wiped out."

No wonder the FDNY wasn't too happy with Giuliani. What a way to honor our fallen heroes.

More:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/25/youll-never-look-at-potholes-the-same-way-again/




Giuliani foes see another side to his 9/11 activities
Critics try to mar his hero image and hobble candidacy by questioning moves.
By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer
April 8, 2007

<snip>
Officials from a national firefighters union, along with some relatives of Sept. 11 victims, say they will publicly attack decisions Giuliani made as New York mayor before and after the terrorist strikes.

Among other complaints, they say that Giuliani failed to support modernized radios that might have spared the lives of more firefighters at the World Trade Center, and that he located the city's main emergency command center in the complex, even though it had been targeted by terrorists eight years earlier.

<snip>

In a separate matter, one of Giuliani's most prominent political rivals, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), is considering calling the former mayor to testify before a Senate committee on whether the government failed to shield recovery workers from the effects of polluted air after the attacks.

<snip>

The Fresh Kills lawsuit presents further complications for Giuliani. If the families fend off an attempt by city officials to dismiss the suit, Siegel, the lawyer, said he plans to question Giuliani on his post-9/11 decisions.

"Most Americans don't know that this was dumped in a garbage dump," Siegel said, referring to claims that human remains wound up in the landfill. "Who made that decision? He will have to answer questions under oath."

More:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-giuliani8apr08,0,6334452,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines




Firefighters Slam Giuliani: "The Disrespect That He Exhibited...Has Not Been Forgiven Or Forgotten"
NY DAILY NEWS | DAVID SALTONSTALL | March 9, 2007 12:11 PM

Rudy Giuliani never fails to cast firefighters as his heroes, but the nation's largest firefighters union all but declared war on him yesterday after he backed out of a forum for presidential hopefuls.

His withdrawal from the International Association of Fire Fighters forum exposed simmering tensions between the former mayor and city fire unions over his decision in November 2001 to limit FDNY personnel at Ground Zero.

More:
http://samsedershow.blogspot.com/2007/03/casual-friday.html
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:07 AM
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3. For one thing, his claim of "commanding" the various rescue workers
like the fire department, the police department, and EMS is suspect since the radios that they had on that day were not working, and nobody was really talking to anybody. And they were not working with his knowledge as the various departments put in a request in the budget for more reliable equipment and City Hall and Rudy didn't give them the money to buy the better equipment.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:12 AM
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4. Placed his emergency distaster command and control...
...center in WTC! Genius. AFTER it was already bombed by ME jihadis in 93!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:17 AM
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6. Also, you can reference Wayne Barrett's book...
... that debunks the Giuliani 9-11 mythology."Grand Illusion". Failure to see to it that Police and Fire Depts. could cooordiate. Failure to do disaster run-thrus. Radio equipment didn't work Firefighters got caught in Tower 2 and dies caused noone told 'em to evacuate.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:32 AM
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8. My cellphone is about to go dead. Can someone else please call him for me?
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:34 AM by IanDB1
Make sure you give him the TinyURL link:
http://tinyurl.com/32dfrx

Thanks!

(Been on hold 55 minutes)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:13 AM
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5. See also: Who is this guy on Air America this morning?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:31 AM
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7. See prior thread: Dave Barber is a sorry substitute for Sam Seder
See prior thread:
Dave Barber is a sorry substitute for Sam Seder

The guy knew nothing about Jeff Gannon, Victor Ashe, or The Franklin Cover-up when I called the show and brought them up.

He said it sounded "far-fetched."

And then, when the NEXT two callers brought up Jeff Gannon, he not only appeared to know nothing about it, but said something like, "I don't want to impugn Jeff Gannon's reputation as a journalist just because he may or may not have been a prostitute."

Where the fuck did they FIND this joker?

Is he an idiot, a hack, a pretender, or just woefully unprepared?

I want Sam Seder back!
And I want XM Radio to stop play Ed Schultz-Lieberman in Thom Hartman's slot.

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x787883
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:39 AM
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9. Dave Barber
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:43 AM by IanDB1
CHECK OUT DAVE!

Dave will be handling 9a-12n duties all week (4.30-5.4) on the Air America Radio Network. Check local listings for affiliates and availibility.

FIRED!
After only one year on Providence's WPRO-AM 630, Dave has been fired. According to Dave, there was no reason why the talk legend was let go. Full article here.

More:
http://chuck69.com/DaveBarber.html



Dave Barber is back and he is on Air America??!!
Dave Barber returns to his old time slot 9am - 12 noon
Beginning Monday April 30th on Super Talk 1570 WCK.
You can call Dave @ 1 866 - 303 - 2270
http://www.flinttalk.com/post-11747.html


He’s Baaaaccckkk!
Filed under: Media
Posted by Matt Jerzyk on Feb 07, 2007, 01:06 pm

Dave Barber’s out and John DePetro’s in at 630am WPRO. From the BeloBlog:

DePetro has been hired by News Talk 630 WPRO and will broadcast weekdays from 9 to 11:45 a.m., the station announced today. He starts Feb. 14.

DePetro, a Rhode Island native who calls himself “The Independent Man,” was a controversial talk radio host for WHJJ-AM in Rhode Island before leaving for Boston’s WRKO-AM more than two years ago.

He was fired in November for remarks he made on the air about Grace Ross, a former candidate for governor in Massachusetts. Commenting on Ross’ performance in a gubernatorial debate, DePetro referred to Ross as a “fat lesbian.”

DePetro will take over a spot that had been filled since March by Dave Barber. Barber said yesterday that he was let go by the station Monday but not given a specific reason.

More:
http://rifuture.org/blog/2007/02/07/hes-baaaaccckkk/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:39 AM
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10. Okay, I'm out. My cellphone is dead now. Can someone else call please? Thanks!
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:40 AM by IanDB1
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:52 AM
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11. What an ignorant and unprepared idiot Dave Barber is
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:52 AM by IanDB1
He actually said that he had never heard ANYONE impugn the performance of Rudy Giuliani after 9/11, and that the majority held Rudy to be a hero-- and that he, Dave Barber, would side with the majority.

A very well-informed woman tried to explain to him about the firemen's' radios, and he actually ARGUED with her-- when he knew NOTHING!

What is WRONG with that man, and what is WRONG with Air America for trying to fill Sam Seder's shoes with such tiny little feet.

To make matters worse, he praised Der Rudyfuhrer's clean-up of 9/11, and said that running New York was not a job for a "limp-wristed pansy."

Excuse me?



Homophobic much, Mister Barber?

When Der Rudy says, "We've got to clean this place!"
We Heil!
Heil!
Right in Der Rudy's face.

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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 10:19 AM
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13. Even if you got through
He would have cut you off because Giuliani isn't the current topic. What a sad pathetic bastard this guy is.
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Tekla West Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 01:39 PM
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14. Oh please,
Everyone knows gay men keep better house than straight men, so when it comes to cleaning up, well, the choice is obvious.
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