Shocking New Abortion Bills Require Vaginal Probe Ultrasound and Collection of Women's Private Data

[kpete]

Shocking New Abortion Bills Require Vaginal Probe Ultrasound and Collection of Women's Private Data
The Oklahoma Senate just passed five abortion bills that will severely limit a woman's reproductive freedoms.
April 21, 2010 |

The Oklahoma Senate passed five abortion bills Monday night, which opponents have said will severely limit a woman's ability to get an abortion and would entail some of the strictest anti-abortion measures in the country.

One of the bills would force a woman to get an ultrasound at least one hour prior to an abortion and be shown the image and given a detailed explanation of it, even if she wishes otherwise. A vaginal probe would be used if it would provide a clearer image of the fetus, which no other state requires; three others do require ultrasounds, but none force the woman to listen to an explanation of it.

State Sen. Anthony Sykes (R-Moore), the bill's sponsor, said the measure was designed to provide women with additional information before having an abortion.

Other pieces of legislation also require clinics that perform abortions to post signs stating it's "against the law for anyone ... to force you to have an abortion," forbid state exchange program insurance from covering abortions and prevent wrongful life and wrongful birth lawsuits.

more:
http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/146564/shocking_new_abortion_bills_require_vaginal_probe_ultrasound_and_collection_of_women%27s_private_data

[denverbill]

1. I think it would help if they made their women wear burkas.

Then they wouldn't be getting the men all roused up and making all these unwanted babies to begin with.

[seabeyond]

16. because it is really so much better the inundation of SEC porn and men on du giggle up a storm

about sittin around work with picture of womens leg spread on their computers 8 hours a day.

our men surely kick ass.

[maxsolomon]

2. i really want Cascadia to secede

so i don't have to live in the same country as these regressives.

[MUAD_DIB]

3. If this isn't a good enough reason for all women to move out of Oklahoma then

I don't know what is.

This shit is clearly a legal form of harassment and intimidation.

State Sen. Anthony Sykes (R-Douche bag), the bill's sponsor, said the measure was designed to provide women with additional information intimidation before having an abortion.

[glinda]

4. That is just plain sick.

[enlightenment]

5. I can think of several ways to share that vaginal probe

with Rep. Sykes.

This crap has got to stop - women don't need additional information nearly as much as they need these right-wing, fundamentalist nutjobs to stay the hell out of their business.

damn it.

[PCIntern]

6. I for one think that they should take the vaginal probe

and shove it so far up the asses of these legislators that it pops out around their larynx.

[truebrit71]

8. [phone]

Uncalled for and without a shadow of a doubt massively unconstitutional..

[progressoid]

7. I thought they didn't want the government involved in health care.

Fuckin regressives.

[FiveGoodMen]

9. Oklahoma is tired of hearing how Texas, Florida, and Arizona are worst fuckers in the Union

They're trying to jump to the head of the class.

Somehow, these motherfuckers must be stopped.

May take another Civil War.

That would be bad.

I'm beginning to think that anything else would be even worse.

[likesmountains 52]

10. Wow, how can they force a woman to have an invasive procedure? Can they? How about

a penis probe every time a man uses a condom?

[woodsprite]

19. They're sadistic enough they'd probably enjoy that. n/t

[musette_sf]

11. Doesn't part of this bill also require

that should the invasive ultrasound show the fetus to have defects and/or other potential health issues, the "detailed explanation" would specifically EXCLUDE any information about such issues?

[yellerpup]

12. The Governor has said he will veto it.

and Planned Parenthood has sent out a notice to their activists that they requested not be forwarded in email, so I won't post it here. Looks as though these initiatives are on track for defeat.

[Beaverhausen]

15. I hope you are right

this is nuts

[yellerpup]

18. I came ()this close to posting it here

But since they want to keep this campaign close to the breast, I assume they know how to handle it from within. I hope they are right, too. Nuts is a kind way to put it, Beaverhausen! :hi:

[dmr]

13. I would never allow the invasion of a probe into my vagina. How dare they invade

my right to a legal procedure!

I'm too old for this to happen to me, but I'd stand with any woman wanting to fight this. You don't go messing with a woman's civil rights just because you think you can legislate your beliefs against hers.

This isn't the same, but it is similar to standing in the way of someone trying to vote. Placing obstacles to keep someone from exercising a legal process, whether it be a poll tax or a vaginal probe, this is unconstitutional.

:grr:

[Hekate]

14. Rape by ultrasound. Rape. I feel nauseous. They are, literally, motherfuckers. Think about it.

May their balls wither and fall off.

:cry: HAVE I MENTIONED LATELY HOW MUCH I HATE THESE MISERABLE EXCUSES FOR HUMANITY?

Hekate

[seabeyond]

17. this DU board today is truly an example of the woman being virgin/whore..... and all for our men

when are women going to throw off both suffocating blankets and actually say fuck you....

[fascisthunter]

20. Unconstitutional... this shit won't last

Hey right wing nazis... your agenda is in vane.

[Dappleganger]

21. The party of limited government, yeah right.

[KatyaR]

22. GOOD NEWS--Governor Henry vetoed these bills today.

It's good to know at least one politician in this state has some sense.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-gov.-brad-henry-vetoes-anti-abortion-bills/article/3456291?custom_click=lead_story_title

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. Good for him!

You know those bastards will try again, and he will continue to veto!

[Hepburn]

29. Amen! n/t

[Missy Vixen]

24. Here's another little problem

Without TMI, I have some familiarity with this procedure. The medical professional performing it was uncomfortable. It's painless, but it's hard for me to believe that a male legislator (hell, a female legislator,) would lie quietly on the table and allow it to be done to them.

I'm wondering how much more things have to parallel Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale" before women stand up and fight back.

[southern_belle]

25. Discrimination at its worst!t

OK! There's a bunch of men (some women?) sitting in this room bringing this state back to the dinasaurs. And, as I have said before about the far-right, they are concentrating on sexual things (note speeches in which incest, bestiality, and all other things that relate to sex come out)and suddenly someone says, "I know... theres the probe, posting on the computer (we all know that no one can hack into it, don't we?) and that would certainly embarrass the woman. Then, gleefully they pass this ignorant bill. My question is: What about the man /father of the fetus? We know that it takes 2 to make a baby, don't we? In some cases its the father that wants the abortion and forces/conjoles the woman to get it. So, if the woman has to go through the misery and embarrassement of having the abortion, lets take DNA and bring the man in and photograph his privates and post those too. Hey, that may help find some rapists too! Also, the man should have to report and maybe be fined - after all, why should he have 'fun', produce a baby and still be allowed to buy Viagra. Fairness for all!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

26. I had a vaginal ultrasound recently for something else.

I had abnormal heavy bleeding and they found a polyp in my uterus.
I am in my 50s, I had not been raped, I consented to it, and it was medically necessary.

Well, it hurt, it was mentally traumatic, and messed with my head. I had to go cry in the car after I finally got strong enough to get up and walk. I had to hang on to my husband's arm.

After the trip it did on my head, I can just imagine the horrendous trauma it would do to a rape victim or any other woman seeking an abortion.

The men in Oklahoma mostly hate women and are obsessed with uteri and Cletus the Fetus.

Before Cletus the Fetus is born: SACRED UNBORN LIFE
After Cletus the Fetus becomes Cletus the New Baby: SNOT NOSED SNIVELING LITTLE WELFARE CHEAT

[pipi_k]

32. I can imagine how you felt...

Even normal pelvic exams...like prenatal exams and such...would make me feel sick and ashamed and terribly violated.

It would take me a long time to get over the feelings, and I would often have nightmares about it.

I don't recall ever having been raped, so I don't know why I felt that way.


I'm sorry you had to go through that also from your ultrasound. And I agree...for an actual rape victim, it could be traumatic.

:(

[nc4bo]

27. Wouldn't using a v probe have a risk of causing abortion itself?

Xian crusaders are so quick to point out the foul mistreatment of women in the ME.

Once again, I fail to see the difference between Xian crusaders and their Muslim extremist counterparts.

Hypocrites always manage to fail to see their own hypocrisy.

[wisteria]

28. This kind of imaging is expensive. Who is picking up the cost for these procedures?

Don't get me wrong, I find the entire idea of subjecting women to these invasive procedures throughly disgusting.

[Odin2005]

30. This is outrageous. State sactioned sexual assult is what it is!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

31. Brad Henry, the Governor, is a Democrat.

WHich doesn't mean too much but at least it sounds like he can recognize an unconstitutional on its face bill.

[Cid_B]

33. Anyone have a problem with the sign?

Other pieces of legislation also require clinics that perform abortions to post signs stating it's "against the law for anyone ... to force you to have an abortion,"

Or is there some outrage hidden in there that eludes me?

[jillan]

34. What is going on in these states? It's like all the red states are going batshit crazy at once.

[TexasObserver]

35. recommend

[cynatnite]

36. Bills were vetoed today. nt