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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:44 AM
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Evolution Question
I never understood the fish argument regarding evolution. Would somebody please explain it to me?
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:46 AM
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1. The fish, naturally, all survived the Great Flood n/t
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:48 AM
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2. Not sure I understand the question...what is "the fish argument"
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:48 AM
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3. The fish argument?
Haven't even heard of it, unless you're alluding to the old "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" argument, which brings up points like human fetuses having gills during part of their development.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:08 PM
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27. a human fetus does not have gills
an embryo has gills.

a fetus does not exist until after 10 weeks of pregnancy, at which point the "gills" are no longer present and the "reptilian" brain has begun to develop.

sorry, but this terminology matters because of the anti-woman, anti-truth brigade.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:49 AM
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4. Which argument involving fish? Fish are very diverse
and have been since the way way back.

Fresh vs salt water origins?
Conodonts?
Transition to land?
Evidences of adaptive radiation?

be more specific and there is a lot of help available
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:49 AM
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5. You mean mudskippers?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:52 AM
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6. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. BUT.....
TEACH a man to fish and he'll call in sick a shitload more often.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:21 PM
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11. ...BUT teach a man to fish and
he'll spend all day sitting in a boat drinking beer...

I love the variations on the theme....

m
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:27 PM
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14. Um, yeah, that's the reason for calling in "sick".
Fishing isn't about catching fish - it is about drinking beer and napping.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:04 PM
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25. Is there any other reason to fish?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:25 PM
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13. Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the night.
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:28 PM
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16. Yeah, but if he pops open a piss-water lite beer, tittie babes in bikinis come out of the woods.
At least that's what they show on TV commercials. Bonus points if he's got a beer gut and hasn't shaved.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:33 PM
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17. Old fishermen never die, they just smell that way. n/t
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 01:51 PM
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19. The irreducible complexity of the show Barney Miller...
(especially in regards to the spin-off involving Abe Vigoda's character) proves the impossibility of evolution.

QED
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 11:56 AM
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7. Are you asking about the Stickleback fish or something?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:04 PM
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8. Argument for or against evolution?
I am not sure I am familiar.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:06 PM
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9. I like fish
And I have no idea what you mean by "the fish argument regarding evolution".
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:06 PM
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10. Do you mean the fish logo? Is supposed to represent Jesus and creationism
Ghoti spells FISH!
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:24 PM
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12. Fish sticks are created, not evolved from other lower forms of fish, therefore.....
....God works at Van De Kamp's. That argument?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:27 PM
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15. Hey, athiests!
If there is no God, then who saved Jonah from the whale? Answer me that if you dare!

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 01:48 PM
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18. I thought it was a whale or large fish that saved Jonah from drowning after he was thrown overboard.
If Jonah had obeyed his god, the angry god wouldn't have caused the terrible storm causing the crew to become frightened and tossing Jonah into the sea. Supposedly, god 'prepared' the great fish to keep Jonah alive and not to digest him until Jonah said enough prayers and then god had the fish vomit Jonah up.

So, if there is no god and wasn't any god back in the time of Jonah, Jonah couldn't have heard god tell him to go warn some sinful town about its upcoming destruction. Then there would have been no whale, Jonah wouldn't have run away on a boat, there would have been no storm and the crew wouldn't have thrown Jonah into the sea. So nobody was needed to save Jonah from the whale!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 04:27 PM
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20. I waited all day to find out what the "fish argument" is!
Still nothing. :(

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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:28 PM
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22. Me, too!
Just replying to track if anything develops. ;-)
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 04:30 PM
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21. Take a look at "Mudpuppies" they have legs.
I think it is called the "snakehead" but there is also a fish that walks on land from lake to lake.
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:35 PM
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30. Mudpuppies are amphibians, not fish
Are you thinking of mud-skippers? They're fish that use their fins to walk on land. There are other kinds of amphibious fish too.





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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 09:41 PM
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23. The only fish I'll argue with are Bluefish, Catfish, and Salmon
Never did care much for any of them and I don't think they like me much, either.


Oh well, what can you do...


:shrug:

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:02 PM
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24. I had an arguement with a fish about evolution once
Talk about a waste of time.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:06 PM
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26. Blind white fish in Persia?
The jury is still out.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:09 PM
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28. I've never heard of the fish argument regarding evolution.
Edited on Fri Apr-23-10 10:10 PM by RainDog
what is it?

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:10 PM
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29. I'm on a horse.
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 10:38 PM
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31. What is the fish argument?
I'd be happy to explain but I'm not sure what you're asking.

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