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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:10 PM
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You can thank President Obama for the SEC going after Goldman Sachs
There were some people trying to claim that President Obama had nothing to do with this. However the fact of the matter is this vote went down party lines with the two Dems voting to go forward and the two Republicans voting to pretend nothing happened. The tie was broken by the independent APPOINTED by President Obama

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-19/sec-said-to-vote-3-2-to-sue-goldman-sachs-over-cdo-disclosures.html
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:15 PM
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1. Of course. Anyone who thinks differently is allergic to facts.
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 12:15 PM by ClarkUSA
Not only that, but Democrats are pushing the SEC to widen their fraud probe.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:19 PM
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28. This is why it's best to have the Dems in charge
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 07:47 PM
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36. Of course. Anyone who thinks differently doesn't belong here. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 07:47 PM by ClarkUSA
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:18 PM
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2. SEC Chair Schapiro is much more aggressive than her predecessor....
and smarter.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:24 PM
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3. Some how I am doubting that George Bush had the same selection criteria as
President Obama
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:51 PM
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31. As well you should. I don't a functioning brain was required in the Bush Administration.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:26 PM
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4. And that, my friends is how a skilled politician takes both sides of an issue!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:29 PM
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5. He is taking one side of the issue. This article addresses charges by the Republicans
that the Goldman Sachs issue is a partisan witch hunt and that the SEC and the White House coordinated the timing of the filing to kick of the Dems drive for financial reform.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:34 PM
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6. By "taking both sides" I'm referring to the way that we have Obama to thank
for the prosecution, while at the same time he was not involved in this in any way, according to his own statements.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:37 PM
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7. Very true, unless one notes that the vote was won thanks to the person he appointed
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:47 PM
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11. Which is why it works so well.
I'm not trying to give Obama a hard time here, and I applaud the SEC, but I think his "we just found out today when we read it in the paper" statement is a little unbelievable. Does anyone really believe the WH didn't get a head's up on this even if they weren't involved with the decision at all?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:59 PM
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13. He probably go the same heads up the every other president gets
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:01 PM
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14. As well he should.
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 01:03 PM by hughee99
I'd really like to think that the first time the administration hears about some significant government action is not from the press.

I guess what I was secretly hoping for was, when asked about GS, rather than saying he just found out, I'd rather he said "Yes, we did this and it's f'ing LONG overdue!".
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:41 PM
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8. so far he hasn't really gone after them, just theater until he really reins in derivatives and swaps
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:42 PM
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9. That's exactly what the President was pushing in his Cooper Union speech
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:47 PM
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10. NO! The "reform" still leave loopholes for unregulated derivatives
still super easy to evade transparency and scrutiny per the "reform" proposed

and, Obama needs to clean house of the crooks in his administration, starting with Geithner
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:58 PM
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12. If you are calling Geithner a crook, even though he hasn't been charged
or even accused, I have to doubt your claims to how flawed the bill is.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:02 PM
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15. What exactly are the "loopholes" in the bill? Provide factual proof, not op-ed polemic.
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 01:17 PM by ClarkUSA
During his speech at Cooper Union today, President Obama said the Wall Street reform bill would invoke the Volcker rule, pointing to the smiling Mr. Volcker sitting in the front row. He also said there would be no more "too big to fail" banks to bailout via taxpayer dollars because the bill places limits on the size of banks and kinds of risks.

Here is an interview with Austan Goolsbee on NPR talking about the Wall Street reform bill where he focuses on derivatives:
http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/onair/transcripts/white_house_economic_adviser_austan_goolsbee_100416
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:05 PM
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16. Yes, I thank the President for every success he's implemented..
I appreciate it. I also Rec this OP.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:30 PM
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17. It is a start
Whether or not it turns out to be another Kabuki performance piece remains to be seen.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:38 PM
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18. Someone is feeling the heat: "Goldman CEO Blankfein feels that ‘government is out to kill them.’"
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:41 PM
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19. maybe had he not received a million dollars from them, the DOJ would be going after them
and putting some of these guys in jail instead of threatening them with fines.

Explain to me the logic of allowing bank robbers to pay a fine (while doing it with their ill-gotten gains)


ok, so I exaggerated, $994,795 http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:04 PM
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20. Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up your assertion?
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 02:06 PM by NJmaverick
To suggest a virtual bribe is a serious charge.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:16 PM
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21. Goldman Sachs donated a million dollars to Obama....
$994,795 http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638


and now they are getting their return on investment
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:26 PM
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22. So did Harvard and the University of California donated even more
so is the President in the tank for them as well?:eyes:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:32 PM
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24. if they start to get unfair treatment, yes
Goldman should be in the middle of a criminal probe, not a civil investigation. Someone had to make the decision and it appears to have benefited them. Plus, Goldman has come out of this horrible economy making a damn profit while other financial houses had to close up and go away. Look how many Goldman employees are now government employees or vice versa...

"Wall Street banking behemoth Goldman Sachs, which was charged with securities fraud last Friday over its role in the subprime mortgage meltdown, has hired President Obama's former White House Counsel Greg Craig to defend the company, according to a report published late Monday by Politico." http://www.truthout.org/goldman-hires-ex-white-house-counsel-defend-bank-against-fraud-charges58716


So now, Goldman hires Obama's former counsel, I'm sure that will help them out as well.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:39 PM
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25. Do you understand that this counts ANY employee that works for Goldman Sachs
and any family members of that employee? You think Goldman Sachs orchestrated a massive fraud to funnel all that money to the Obama campaign?????
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:20 PM
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29. banksters gave more campaign $$$ to Obama than to any other candidate
and, it's the Goldman Sachs Administration:

candidate

it's the GS administration; does that provide an answer?

from opensecrets.org

Goldman Sachs $994,795 ***********
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290 ************
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132 *************
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881 *****************
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 09:00 PM
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38. lol...
that's smooth... get a million bucks from them AND nail them to the wall.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:30 PM
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23. It's worse than nothing! Obama is just a corporatist! Obama is a republican!
Just wanted to try out being a "true progressive", see how it felt. :P
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:40 PM
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26. !
:spray:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:46 PM
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27. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:23 PM
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30. Oh great, that means the Tea Baggers will totally be confused
as to what this means! I'm sure Fox News will forget about this story or slant it against Obama.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 03:55 PM
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32. ROFLMAO! You do realize that Goldman Sachs gave $994,795 to the Obama campaign don't you?
FYI-Obama got the MOST of any candidate from Goldman Sachs.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8196540


Btw, your Obama b.s. is getting really old.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:08 PM
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33. Those are donations from employees and family of employees
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 04:09 PM by NJmaverick
if you are interested. Judging by your uncontrolled laughter I am thinking that is not the case, better to present faulty information and all that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 08:58 PM
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37. BS? That's your department.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:12 PM
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34. you forget something
His economic team is made up of ex Goldman Sachs thugs!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:46 PM
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35. and???????
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