Pick a Remarkable Moment of the Debate.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

One was when Thompson (?) said it was up to each employer whether to fire an employee for being gay.

[Old and In the Way]

1. "Gang of 3" - Romney

The vilification of Bill Clinton was classy, too.

[deadparrot]

4. Considering Bill has twice the favorability of Dubya in recent years,

was that really wise? :shrug:

[Old and In the Way]

32. Think of it as a Pavlovian response.

They can't help themselves.

[jazzjunkysue]

41. Such a christian, god-fearing man, to call senators a gang.

He's even less christian than *, and that's saying something. What a total creep! I'll have nightmares.

[LibDemAlways]

71. There wasn't a guy on that stage who comes close to Clinton's

intelligence, charisma, or the respect he commands throughout the world. Tweety sounded like an idiot asking that question, and the 10 morons up there all took the bait and made themselves look like even bigger fools with their smarmy, smug answers. They were all playing to the Clinton-hating base instead of realizing that there were viewers (including repuke primary voters) who actually like and admire Clinton. A much smarter (and classier) response would have been to say, "I would hope that if and when President Clinton returns to the White House, it would be during my administration. I would certainly welcome his friendship and advice, just as I would welcome the advice of any former President."

I guess that would have been just too much to ask from this particular bunch of pathetic losers.

[Old and In the Way]

73. well said...take away Bill's over-hyped BJ and just what would they have an issue with?

his busted land deal? What about Commander Guys $50K loan from the bin Laden family or his insider trading?

his filegate/travelgate "expose"? Compared to every real scandel we're seeing developing in this administration?

The mind boggles as to the depth of the hypocrisy that the Republican Party and their media stooges, like Matthews, will go in their hatred of Clinton (and, by association, us). Until the 'lil Dictator got selected, I could never have approached that level of animosity.

[MadBadger]

2. The Gang of three - those who dont believe in evolution.

[madeline_con]

57. Are doomed to repeat it.

:rofl:

[Neecy]

3. well...

For me, it was the big idiot grin McCain had on his mug at the end of every answer, even if what he'd just said was pure bloodlust. Strange. Deranged.

[Wetzelbill]

5. Rudy stumbling over the Sunni-Shiite question

It was something he was hammered on a few weeks ago, he had to rehearse it, and he barely got it out, stuttered, seemed tentative. It was weak.

[AlCzervik]

6. McCain-"well the yellow light is on so i can still talk right?"

[A-Schwarzenegger]

13. A transcript is going to read like ten pre-verbal pinheads.

Make that eleven.

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Who is this "gang of three"?

[Wetzelbill]

8. wait, I misread, my bad

[Suich]

10. Brownbeck, Huckabee and Tancredo. n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

19. That sounds like a law firm of Gummy Bears.

[clydefrand]

26. Thanks for the chuckle. I needed that.

[calimary]

61. The Three Stooges.

Or maybe Hungadunga, Hungadunga, and Hungadunga without the MacCormick.

[Maru Kitteh]

63. I didn't mind peeing myself

when I read that.

Thanks.

[krkaufman]

47. A slur directed at Hillary, Pelosi and Reid ...

... following the question of whether Bill Clinton should be back in the White House.

Matthews and all the questioning was considerably less contentious than that of Brian Williams last week.

[WinkyDink]

70. I'd phrase it: Matthews was quite chummy and yukking it up.

[krkaufman]

74. Yeah, I've said "buddy-buddy" in other posts. Matthews definitely ...

... was giving all the candidates the implied thumbs-up, versus last week's challenging of the Democrats. (implied acceptance vs implied unworthiness)

[Connie_Corleone]

9. That's the one I pick too.

I was hoping that all the candidates would get a chance to answer that question.

[Sparkly]

11. Besides the Dem-bashing, Thompson saying "several thousand" have been injured in Iraq. nt

[Ediacara]

25. Well, "several thousand" isn't incorrect....

exactly...

[Ediacara]

12. When McCain lied and said he believed in evolution

(well he either lied tonight, or he lied when he was interviewed with Tucson's Arizona Daily Star when he said he supported ID), and then when everyone else was asked, four or five hands went up saying they didn't believe in evolution. I didn't catch who raised their hands (although I assume Brownback was in that group); did anyone catch who raised their hands?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

17. But he quickly added that the Grand Canyon made him think of God!

[Ediacara]

27. You can believe in evolution and believe in God

But he seemed to be a supporter of ID from the interview he gave... Did you happen to catch the creationist hand-raisers?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

28. Apparently---Brownback, Huckabee and Tancredo.

[Ediacara]

30. Thanks! Not unsurprising... I would have expected Romney in that group too

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. These debaters disprove evolution.

[LibDemAlways]

72. They prove that something has certainly gone very wrong

in the evolutionary process as white males who identify with the extreme rightwing of the republican party are regressing at an alarming rate.

[krkaufman]

48. Brownback & Huckabee, then Tancredo (after he saw the other hands going up)

[Gelliebeans]

14. As the credits rolled

and the idiots left the stage. Only because I can calm down now and have a drink, secure in the thought that a Dem will be prez in 08.

[southerncrone]

15. When asked if they would choose a Democrat to be in their cabinet, but it could NOT BE LIEBERMAN!

[TahitiNut]

20. Holey Joe should be proud of hisself tonight.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Cha]

24. tweety said that?

yeah, cause lieman is an independent liemn.

[Ediacara]

29. that struck me too, he kept saying there were "plenty"

but couldn't seem to be able to come up with a name.

[joefree1]

16. 10 Rich White doughy faces

Wow, I'm a middle age white guy and still I was stunned by the pink line up of candidates. Is there any worst sign of how out of touch the repuke party is?

[ncteechur]

18. Yep--pretty much a deliverance smorgasbhord. Yikes!

[Canuckistanian]

23. So who had the "purtiest mouth"?

Yech, don't answer that.

[calimary]

64. No kidding. Good one. Unfortunately also true.

Good GOD the republi-CONS are in bad shape. I'm just glad the real knuckledraggers, brownback and pals, are BOTTOM-TIER candidates, most likely to drop out soon. I think our choices among this lot range from bad to horrible to abysmal.

[ashling]

21. Rudy: they need to see Ronald Raygun

"Because when they looked at Ronuld Raygun they released the hostages in 2 seconds."

The highpoint of the debate for me was when I changed to Spider Man Tech on the history channel

[Patsy Stone]

56. That was it right there. n/t

[Kool Kitty]

68. Rudy? Two seconds of looking at him

and I'm ready to release my dinner. :puke:

[Gregorian]

22. Libby was just a guy with bad memory. No laws were broken.

In response to "Should Libby be pardoned".

What a waste of time. I can't wait for the critical mass. Impeachment and Sibel Edmonds ungagged. I want to preempt any pardonability.

[KharmaTrain]

31. Just Seen - Lonely Mr. Lemon Chicken

:rofl: :rofl:

While Joey's interviewing Goofy McGilmore, over his shoulder, there's Duncan Hunter...standing all alone. Not a journo or stenographer nearby. In fact, several people with tape machines walked right past him as he was staring at Joey and hoping his old pal would throw him a bone.

:rofl: :rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

33. Laughing at the Clintons, led by Tweety--like school in the summer--NO CLASS!

[krkaufman]

49. Yeah, Tweety really demonstrated his political persuasion today.

(as though it had been needed)

[Canuckistanian]

34. It's what they DIDN'T say

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x818595

[NastyRiffraff]

35. LIVE...from "The Onion..."

Honest to God, it looked like a Saturday Night Live skit.

[Bryan]

37. Romney's sudden arselicking of Bush

It was amazing. Everyone carefully avoided mentioning * for the entire debate, and when the question about him came up, Romney crawled up his ass and pitched a tent. I can't shake the feeling that the portion of the base that still thinks Dubya sits at the right hand of the Lord was collectively nodding and smiling at that point.

[Reciprocity]

38. When Guiliani was asked about the African American community

and the only thing he said about it was how he was able to cut the welfare roll. Talk about a Freudian slip.

[jazzjunkysue]

39. McCain following OBL to the gates of hell. Or at least a market in Baghdad.

With a kevlar vest and a swat team. And 8 or 10 snipers. And an emergency helicopter.

Well, if he'll follow Bush into hell, which he's doing as we speak, I guess it's not so hard to believe.

[Ino]

40. Asking if they'd amend the constitution so Ahnold could be prez!

I think they all said "no" :D

[Sonicmedusa]

42. I gotta say, that "Up to each employer" made my skin crawl....

How can any fuck say it's "up to each employer" and not say, "it's up to each woman"????

One is discrimination, the other is CHOICE.

How soon before they would fire up the crematoriums?

[Maru Kitteh]

65. Crematoriums. That would be up to each

Congrssional district?

[Ilsa]

43. For me, it was the collective responses that made me turn it off before

I started throwing rocks at my tv. I just couldn't bear to see a bunch of old rich white men telling me to do with my uterus.

[krkaufman]

44. Yeah, that one didn't help Thompson with either side of the political spectrum.

[krkaufman]

45. I thought ALL the candidates hurt themselves...

... by all their fawning over Reagan and Schwarzenegger, making themselves seem to be lesser choices in comparison.

[MadBadger]

46. Other republicans love that shit I bet though

[krkaufman]

50. Especially Fred Thompson. n/t

[krkaufman]

52. Most notable was Matthews' failure to ask any tangible questions ...

... regarding the most controversial Bush policies.

- Do you agree with the Bush Administration's position on the "unitary executive"?

- Do you believe that Presidential signing statements are strictly ceremonial and historical, or do you feel that they become part of the legal document and affect the meaning of the document?

- Do you agree that Executive Privilege shields all Presidential advice? What advice is within scope?

- The military is at its breaking point, some say it's already broken, how will you both continue the war effort in Iraq *and* address the increasing critical military personnel issue?

etc.

[JVS]

51. rudy as pro-choice

[bklyncowgirl]

53. Rudy, voice shaking, glowering talking about the dangers of an unstable person with nuclear weapons.

Alright he was talking about the president of Iran but looking at him you had to think "Yeah, I don't thing YOU should have your finger on the button there Rudy Boy."

[krkaufman]

54. I also like Tommy Thompson's initial response ...

... where he

(1) Maliki govt should conduct vote on continued American occupation. (sounds good to me!)
(2) ...
(3) Split the oil proceeds... including one-third distributed directly to the Iraqi citizens.

Excellent! How 'bout doing the same for us?

[Kool Kitty]

67. I gotta agree, that response shocked the shit out of me.

Then they asked the "fire the gay employee" question and I wanted to throw a brick through the TV.

But, what was with all the bullshit questions? Tweety had to ask the question about Hillary and Bill (maybe he has a slight man-crush on Bill?) and the question about Lieberman (so tomorrow Hannity can have Joementum on his show and kiss his ass and Joe can be all condescending about how the repugs are more bi-partisan, :puke: ), and all they did was talk about Reagan-damn near every response mentioned Reagan.

And the Rove and Libby questions? Did they ask our candidates such inane questions? I don't seem to remember that they did, but then again, Brian Williams moderated our debate.

[krkaufman]

75. Yeah, Thompson was doing some major pandering on that question.

Did you see EarlG's review? Apparently his campaign almost immediately issued a correction, saying that he hadn't heard the question correctly.

And agreed on the Matthews approach to the debate. Decidedly different from Williams last week.

[flaminbats]

55. Ron Paul's comments about individual liberty..

I agree 100% with this message posted at MSNBC about Ron Paul's performance.

"His non-interference foreign policy, he'd respect and protect public privacy, and his last and best comment about protecting habeas corpus was fundamentally the best!"

[calimary]

58. They all did what Randi Rhodes said they'd do. They fell all over themselves

trying to see who could climb higher up into ronald reagan's ass.

Each of them reconfirmed my feeling that if, IF we are so unfortunate as to have any one of these clowns in the Oval Office, we are FINISHED as a nation. Especially if you're a woman of child-bearing age.

The bobbing and weaving and dodging a kkkarl rove question.

That schmuck brownback. Another snarky "democrat party" reference and a three-year-old's justification of "well, EVERYBODY does it", when asked about corruption in the GOP and duke cunningham and mark foley and jack abramoff and a fourth person (I forget who). The first thing he does is talk about how there are "Democrat" offenders in this, too, with money found in refrigerators and cash found in freezers. Okayyyyyyyyy - seems to me that's ONE guy (William Jefferson of Louisiana) compared to FOUR in the question alone.

Frankly, they dodged EVERYTHING except to make clear that women will be reduced to brood mare status (with giuliani coming out somehow on ALL sides of the issue - weighted only slightly toward the NO-choice side), and religion will govern ALL decision-making. Oh yeah, and we're gonna go kick ass in Iran now, too. Oh yeah, and "mistakes were made" in Iraq, and the war was managed "poorly" - by some vaporous, unnamed shade of an anonymous, mysterious somebody over there somewhere wafting away in the breeze, whom you can't see and nobody can quite make out who it might be.

And mccain looked like that weird character from "Dr. Strangelove" who had the mechanical arm that kept raising in this rigid, rigor-mortis salute. VERY strange arm movements from him all night long. Rather scary, actually.

duncan hunter seemed AWFULLY pompous to me, in how he spoke, how he stood (posture), what he said, the way he gestured, the works.

WAY too religious. Three of them raised their hands about evolution - as in, NOT believing in it: brownback, huckabee I think) and
tancredo, I believe. SHUDDER!!!!!
God help us all if any ONE of these jerks gets in.

[ryanmuegge]

59. All of the candidates talking about "bad" trade policy all of the sudden.

That's one of their new talking points...after 30 years of creating this bad trade policy. I find it truly offensive that they're pretending to defend American jobs while you know they agree with everything that's happened with trade policy and will continue to do the same thing when they're elected.

That really got under my skin because it's such a lie. They're trying to act like they're the party of the working class and so forth and they've been creating the trade policy for 30 years (and, yes, I include Clinton as a Republican administration...not to get into an argument about that touchy subject).

[Maru Kitteh]

60. When Tweety looked bored as hell at the end.

He was so excited earlier today. What a letdown.

[gatorboy]

62. The fella that mentioned he was a compassionate conservative,

then in the very next breath, talked about bombing the shit out of Iran.

[FrenchieCat]

66. Yep....caught the "irony" on that one......

However, wasn't the question put this way, "Like George Bush, do you call yourself a compassionate Republican?"

Considering the preface, I'd say that his answer was just about right! :shrug:

[woo me with science]

69. This was all irrelevant and a waste of time, because

Fred Thompson is going to run and get the nomination.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. Romney on Osama: "He will die."

A moment of truth.