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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:44 AM
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My goodness, the second Icelandic volcano has started erupting
Breaking news......There seems to be a vast amount of activity in the earth's crust. What's happening? I wonder how long European flights will be off?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:46 AM
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1. Oh shit!
This could get interesting.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:36 PM
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61. UPDATE: It's apparently a false alarm. An Icelandic Broadcasting Service camera was apparently
UPDATE: It's apparently a false alarm. An Icelandic Broadcasting Service camera was apparently pointed at Eyjafjallajökull and but it was labeled Hekla.

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/04/second-iceland-volcano-hekla-begins-erupting-in-iceland.html
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:46 AM
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2. Oh crap, this can't be good
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:47 AM
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3. If true, this is not good news AT ALL...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8171711

Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull volcano is nothing to 'Angry Sister' Katla

snip//

Moreover, Iceland's "Angry Sister" hasn't even awoken yet. The three times in recorded history when Eyjafjallajökull has erupted, its neighbor, the much larger Katla, has followed suit.

Data do not yet suggest that a Katla eruption is imminent. Yet, in some respects, it is the far greater concern, both in Iceland and beyond.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:49 AM
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6. Thanks for calling it babylonsister..
I read your post last night and was talking about it with a friend.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:51 AM
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7. MSNBC is saying Hekla is the one now erupting
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:53 AM
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10. OK, Hekla, not Katla. That's a whole lot more I now know about
volcanoes in Iceland than I ever wanted to know. :scared:

I had no idea there were so many, for starters.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:16 PM
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42. It's the land of fire and ice.
A good chunk of the country is a seething caldera. Hot springs, geysers, volcanoes, you name it.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:20 PM
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47. Yes it is...damn that Necron!
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:21 PM
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48. delete dupe
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:22 PM by TransitJohn
delete dupe
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:55 AM
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14. Yep.
They said there were quite a few active volcanoes in Iceland.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:52 AM
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8. This one is called Hekla. Apparently Katla hasn't erupted.
At least that's what MSNBC is reporting.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:54 AM
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12. Thanks. nt
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:02 PM
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18. Actually, it could help lower the temperature of the planet temporarily.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:48 AM
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4. OMG----and it's supposed to be the larger one.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:49 AM
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5. Not good for the economy
but this stuff happens all the time.

We live on a geologically active planet.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:53 AM
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9. gaaah... just read this morning that experts were afraid that might happen
here we go
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:53 AM
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11. Katla, not Hekla. But still.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:58 AM
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16. MSNBC says Helka... so anyone know for sure..
I think its a big difference.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:03 PM
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20. I take it back, then.
I should know better than to comment on preliminary reports! :spank:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:07 PM
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24. Guide to Iceland's volcanos
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:14 PM
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35. Thank you. And all Iceland's volcanoes are on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
Really interesting. I should have paid more attention in my college geology course.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:54 AM
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13. I'm flying to Europe in Mid May...at least I was SUPPOSED to...
n.t.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:57 AM
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15. 2012 is coming!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:27 PM
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53. +1
:evilfrown:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:02 PM
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17. Hekla has erupted before many times in modern history..
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:03 PM by DCBob
The most recent was 2000 and there wasnt much effect..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekla

The big nasty one is Katla.. hope she stays calm.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:02 PM
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19. Enjoy the heat while it lasts
we will have a nice COLDER summer.

And for those chucking and thinking this will not affect you personally...

And of course for the science ignorant round these parts, no this is not 2012, nor the end of the world... but a year without a summer might be in our near future.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:09 PM
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26. a colder summer would be nice, but a colder winter after that, not so much :(
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:15 PM
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40. Crop failures--hope that doesn't come to pass.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:23 PM
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50. I think it's mainly the tropical volcanoes that affect the weather
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:28 PM by starroute
I'm going to have to look for a link -- but the 1816 year without a summer was the result of Mount Tambora in Indonesia.

On edit: Here we go.

http://www.wunderground.com/climate/volcanoes.asp#Header1_7

Let's examine recent volcanic eruptions that have had a significant cooling effect on the climate. In the past 200 years, Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines (June 1991), El Chichon (Mexico, 1982), Mt. Agung (Indonesia, 1963), Santa Maria (Guatemala, 1902) Krakatoa (Indonesia, 1883), and Tambora (1815) all created noticeable cooling. . . . You'll notice from the list of eruptions above that all of these climate-cooling events were from volcanoes in the tropics. Above the tropics, the stratosphere's circulation features rising air, which pulls the sulfur-containing volcanic aerosols high into the stratosphere. Upper-level winds in the stratosphere tend to flow from the Equator to the poles, so sulfur aerosols from equatorial eruptions get spread out over both hemispheres. These aerosol particles take a year or two to settle back down to earth, since there is no rain in the stratosphere to help remove them. However, if a major volcanic eruption occurs in the mid-latitudes or polar regions, the circulation of the stratosphere in those regions generally features pole-ward-flowing, sinking air, and the volcanic aerosol particles are not able to penetrate high in the stratosphere or get spread out around the entire globe. The 2009 eruption of Alaska's Mt. Redoubt, located near 59° north latitude, was too far north to be able to inject significant amounts of sulfur aerosols into the stratosphere. . . .

There can be some exceptions to the tropics-only rule, and at least one high latitude volcano appears to have had significant climate effects; Laki (Iceland, 1783-1784). The crucial factor was that the eruption was almost continuous for over 8 months which lead to significantly elevated sulphate concentrations for that whole time over much of the Atlantic and European regions, even though stratospheric concentrations were likely not particularly exceptional.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:32 PM
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58. Depends on how much crap goes up there
and how high.

This is already pretty high.

And a bit of material too.

By the way, they are already expecting a cooling from this... ok by a degree centigrade average, but will see.

Point is all those who continue to chuckle and think this will not affect them... well we live in a world that tends to have global effects to things like this,
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:03 PM
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21. They've removed the story?
It looks like it's gone now.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:07 PM
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23. Must have been just someone smoking near Hekla...
It was never mentioned by any other news outlet so MSNBC must have -- hopefully! -- received wrong info
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:08 PM
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25. Yes, hope so.
No other news sources have it that I could find.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:13 PM
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34. They incorporated it into their larger story, but in a much less sensationalist manner:
Eyjafjalljokull, the volcano at the center of the crisis, is spewing less ash, but a second volcano began spewing a plume of smoke on Monday and it was unclear if it would add to the ash cloud. Icelandic TV showed a large plume above the Hekla volcano.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36637380/ns/travel-news/
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MellonCollie Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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30. Yes, someone pointed the Hekla webcam at the Eyjafjallajökull volcano n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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33. Phew!
at least for now! There's lots of seismic activity going on!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:04 PM
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22. The end is near - Repent - Save yourselves
:sarcasm:



Of course in unlikely the event the end really is near, I do repent everything I have done in this life in hope of saving myself.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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32. I need to go stock up on beer..
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:24 PM
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51. I read a disaster preparedness guide that suggests beer is a key iten
as it can be used as currency after a disaster.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:31 PM
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57. +100 My thoughts exactly. n/t
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:09 PM
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27. And with the virgin shortage and all, we're doomed.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:10 PM
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28. Oh no.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM by myrna minx
:-(

On edit - I can't find the story. :shrug:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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29. Here another breaking news link... seems it may be true..
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:14 PM
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37. live feed here

http://www.ruv.is/hekla

Media footage of plume only *indicate* Hekla may have erupted. Icelandic authorities have *not* confirmed that.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:19 PM
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46. Looks pretty peaceful..
odd.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:11 PM
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31. MSNBC has now vanished the news story
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:14 PM
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36. sigh of relief!
....for now
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:15 PM
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39. And it's not on any of the other news sites.
weird
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:29 PM
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54. Irresponsible reporting IMHO.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:43 PM
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63. Apparently one of the monitoring cameras was pointed in the wrong direction
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:15 PM
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38. Webcam on Helka shows it is NOT erupting:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:15 PM
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41. good
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:18 PM
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44. That's pretty convincing.. wonder where all the false reports are coming from?
weird.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:05 PM
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64. Apparently, someone mislabeled a picture or cam.
And word spread quickly.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:16 PM
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43. More reports..
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:21 PM
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49. They just pulled this one too... seems all false alarms..
maybe a hoax.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:19 PM
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45. Paging Nostradamus!?!
If Mount Vesuvius erupts and the pope leaves Rome, I'm planting a garden and stocking up on non-perishable foods. :silly: :tinfoilhat: :evilgrin:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:26 PM
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52. if they grow
do you remember Mount St Helens blowing - it was like night and ash was everywhere.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:30 PM
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56. Bummer!
I'll have to locate my MREs and stock up on stool softener, i.e., they bind you up. :blush:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:29 PM
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55. FYI: That "breaking news" link gets fresh stories continuously, so...
the story you were linking to is already gone from the page.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:35 PM
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59. Apparently it was just a "plume of smoke" and some in the media over-reacted..
"A plume of smoke from a second Icelandic volcano briefly caused concern Monday but its impact was quickly minimized."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36637380/ns/travel-news/
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:36 PM
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60. No follow up to this on any news sites
Was this a mistake on MSNBC's part?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:40 PM
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62. If you look at the fault lines, there are all forms
of earthquakes and volcanoes currently breaking apart the Oceanic Spreading Rift.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:13 PM
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65. False alarm. Bad journalism. But there is this to consider...
Historically, when the one that cannot be pronounced goes, Katla has followed shortly thereafter.
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