What the hell has happened with this crazy Republican Party??

[kentuck]

Why do they hate America?

Why do they continue to act like fucking fools??

Why are they so frigging stupid?

Must they be against everything under heaven?

Now they are taking the side of the Big Bankers and Wall Street. If they can't agree to do something about those crooks, what can they agree with the Democrats on?

And they want other fools to vote them back into power?? So they can do what??

Nothing?

[BlooInBloo]

1. Nothing. They've always been like this.

[ginnyinWI]

2. The loonies are in control.

They hate America because a Democratic administration is in charge--and he's not the same color they are.
They continue to act like fools because they think others will admire them.
They are stupid because they have learned very well how to deny reality and facts and simply accept whatever their leaders tell them. It's so much easier that way!
They are against everything because it makes them feel strong, and because it's far easier than thinking of solutions.
They would rather die than side with the Dems, no matter how much good it would be for them.
They want to be back in power so that they can proceed to do NOTHING except start more wars. They don't believe government really needs to do anything except "defend" the country.

The inmates are now in charge over at the GOP and the rest of them are afraid to lift a finger to stop them. They'll be very sorry after the next election when they lose more seats. And they are really stuck and can't do anything about it. Anyone who dares to say anything gets shouted down immediately and made to apologize!

What will it take for them to run out of steam? Maybe a nice sound defeat next fall.

[vixengrl]

3. I really think we should capitalize on the Wall Street vs Main Street issue.

If they are outraged about "takeovers" and bail-outs, they should be positively screaming mad about preserving a system that habitually results in them,, which is the de-regulated and monopolistic bullshit we're in right now.

But wait--they are the ones who mostly initiated the deregulation, and as of 2008 (Grampy McCain advised by Phil Gramm) were still all about less regulation being the way forward, even after the collapse of 2008 revealed that Wall Street was full of punks playing with investors' money and getting pretty rich while even...losing.

Dems need to get proactive with getting stories out there, and letting it be known that dirty money from banking lobbyists encourage asshats like Mitch (Neck drape) McConnell to try and defend them from regulation--when:

Oh shit, it's deregulation that lets greed take over and results in breaking the banks.

And,

Oh, double shit, it's the government who bailed out the loans and thrifts in the early 90's (Bush I) nd in 2008 (Bush II), so maybe the anger should be--at the GOP? And the interest should be with the people who want to promote consumer protections that keep investors from being wallet-raped. No more of this Ayn Rand enlightened self-interest of robber barons bullshit, let's promote the idea that maybe, since the money the banks are playing with is the people's, the people's representatives in government have a responsibility to keep them from getting soaked.

Neck Drape screwed up listening to lobbyists before deciding to announce that he thought the Financial Reform was going to lead to new bail-outs. And actually, I am *glad* he's got 41 GOp-ers supporting his pathetic protection of where the donation cash is coming from--

We can use that.

That party is the party of bank failures and robber barons--pass it the hell on. They own the bail-outs, and they started the corruption. It was their Bush-appointed SEC folks who didn't recognize Madoff or Goldman-Sachs' transgressions.

This is their failures. They can eat them.

[kentuck]

4. Maybe you are right?

"This is their failures. They can eat them."

Screw 'em! If they want to act like assholes, then why be willing to keep quiet and share responsibility? Why not just place the blame squarely where it belongs??

[vixengrl]

12. Exactly--it's the perfect fit for them--

they want to cry capitalism, so be it. The Dems can speak to the bottom line of the investor-class American--do you want to be protected from corprocratic highway robbery? Do you think the American people can afford to put "all their eggs in one basket" by relying on "too big to fail" firms? Then follow the Teabaggers--, go forth and pretend Hannity has an extra inch of forehead and that Palin is ready for prime time television, you know. Also. Too. Other wise, you might prefer to read an historical biography of the Founding Fathers and just try not to suck.

I'm for breaking up the "too big to fail" institutions myself not because I'm a spoilsport who hate monopolies (although I am!) but because it's a form of consumer protection--because when "too big to fail" goes down, they stand to take a lot with them.

Also, regarding the issue the 'baggers have regarding the "take-over" or seizure of institutions, such as has long been practiced under the FDIC--what?

It's not too much different in my opinion than when the Health department closes down a filty restaurant--it's in the public interest. A restaurant makes its patrons physically ill, a bank or an investment manager can make their clients financially ill. We wouldn't say that the Health Dept has "taken over" or "owns" a rat-infested Burger King. So why does someone like Michelle Backmann maintain that 51% of the GNP is government controlled? Does she mean "regulated"? Shit, do traffic lights regulate, or own, traffic, inquiring minds want to know!

She's an ass. And so are all too many GOp-ers.

[Naturalist111]

5. I could be wrong because I am getting old and my memory

fails me at times but I remember something different no so long ago. I remember flag waving, love my country everything is grand except we need to kill some people. They can't stand liberals being in control. It literally drives them crazy. If they can't get their way it's temper tantrum time. Did we act like that for those horrible 8 yrs?

[kentuck]

6. The Democrats were too willing to go along with Bush and the Republicans..

on the wars, on spying, on torture, on taxes. You name it. So, no, we did not act like that. Even though we, the people, acted terribly, the Democrats in Congress were not like these present-day Republicans.

[Naturalist111]

7. How did we act terribly?

[kentuck]

8. I guess it would be in the eye of the beholder?

We took little pity on that moron and drunken frat boy.

[Naturalist111]

9. but that was deserving. Factual. I don't see it as the same.

So this beholders eyes I guess see it differently. Apples and oranges. Night and day.

[kentuck]

10. I doubt you will get any disagreement on that?

George W Bush and the Republicans fucked up this country royally. Honestly, I had little hope that Barack Obama or the Democrats could do anything to fix it. Now, in my opinion, there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon. Only a fool would vote to put the Republicans back into power at this time. How much proof do they need to see. The last eight years were the most incompetent any of us have ever seen. To deny that is being totally dishonest.

[ejpoeta]

22. there's some guy on twitter that seems to think the dems acted the same way.

when i told him they didn't, he said i wasn't paying attention. i told him dems weren't walking around carrying guns and threatening violence that i recall. and i WAS paying attention. i told him also that trying to justify it with the 'they did it too' defense doesn't work.

[Naturalist111]

25. Insanity down to the very core.

[Rincewind]

11. It's Nixon's, and Reagan's fault.

Nixon ran in 1968 using what he called his "Southern strategy", which used buzz words and euphemisms to appeal to racists ( all over the country, not just the South). And in 1980, Reagan used similar methods to bring Christian Fundamentalists on-board. The problem with bringing extremists in is that in short order, they realize that rather than vote for a main stream candidate that uses a few phrases that they agree with, they can use their numbers to put one of their own into the winners circle in the primary. This means that in a few years, more and more Republican candidates (and office holders) are either wingnuts, or owe their election to wingnuts. And since the majority of America refuses to live according to their desires, they just become more and more strident. If this keeps up, in a few years, there will be a right wing candidate who will promise, if elected, to lead a revolution against the Government.

[provis99]

18. I blame Goldwater in '64.

Goldwater originated the Southern Strategy, Nixon just appropriated it. All the problems in America go directly to Goldwater. Oh, and I blame Ayn Rand and libertarians somehow, too, because they just annoy me.

[oldlib]

13. I remember a time..

When Democrats and Republicans could have a cordial and respectful discussion on the issues of the day.The Republicans that I knew were primarily concerned with maintaining the bottom line within a company and social concerns were incidental. I noticed a change in discourse with the creation of the John Birch Party in the early sixties. The Republicans today are completely deranged.

[Dramarama]

15. I blame TV

C-Span especially. Senators, like kids do outrageous things to get on TV.
j/k

[fishbulb703]

14. Just wait till Mitt is the 2012 candidate. Bad news bears. nt

[Mopar151]

16. Please! I just ate!

Mittens in 2012 - be still my bile ducts. He's only interested in the job because there are no orphanages left to reposess. Truly a sad commentary that he's considered a viable contender.

[fishbulb703]

19. Pray you haven't broken the Seal of the LDS! Mercy be upon you!

[Cresent City Kid]

17. They're anti-bailouts, but defend Wall Street fat cats

Seems counterintuitive, but they're just following their training. If they were capable of thought, they would see that 8 figure bonuses for CEO's hurt the bottom line of a company just as much as taxes or regulations might. What's worse, the taxes and regulations they decry are hypothetical and would benefit society, and the bonuses are quite real and only benefit a single person.

[Jamastiene]

20. I have known for quite some time that

there is something seriously fucked up about the Republicans. Living amidst some of the more batshit crazy ones leaves you saying :wtf: at least once a day if not more. Let's put it this way; the more you are around Republicans, the more you begin to wonder if the human species is really the "intelligent life" on this planet. No kidding.

In all honesty, there is something wrong with that bunch. They don't have enough functioning brain cells to form a logical thought. I finally shut them out of my head and went on with life. They no longer live rent free in my head. I'm much happier now.

A word of advice, if you want it: Don't try to understand them. It'll give you a headache.

[hangtogether]

21. here's an observation

Here's my guess: they've forgotten what a right is.

Seriously - right now, half the Republican Party is prancing around trying to convince us that corporations have rights. Right to free speech, right to assemble...

They've lost sight of the fundamentals. Corporate brainwashing, most likely. You can gently remind them that rights are not "granted", they can't be "bestowed" upon a corporation or even another person - and all you get back are these dumb stares, like this is news to them or something.

[old mark]

23. "Act like idiots"...why assume they are acting at all?

Each one is dumber than the last....

Please vote Democratic in November...we need to clean the garbage out of congress, and we should start with the GOP.

mark

[Kahuna]

24. They never got over losing the civil war and they're refighting it.

I've always felt that way.

[theothersnippywshrub]

26. True. The party of Lincoln became the party of John Wilkes Booth. n/t