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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:58 PM
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Does Rush Limbaugh Really Matter?-Mark Green at AlterNet

"It's Elmer Gantry denouncing sin for Screed Radio to complain about Obama's "character assassination" and opposition to the "majority." Obama's 53 percent election is more than Limbaugh's 3 percent of a radio audience. Should we even bother to answer folks who love America yet hate democracy? Probably.

The dirty secret of the Music Men of talk is that doing well electronically is different than electorally. Limbaugh and Beck surely succeed by the metrics of the media, where a 3 share is a big win. But 3 percent of the vote is not so hot.

Limbaugh recently expressed shock, shock that Obama would criticize him for "vitriol." He countered that the President didn't represent the majority of Americans. Rush does? Let's look at the numbers:

A question: should any serious person take time to factually rebut people who are allergic to facts? Who try to out-exaggerate each other to get small percentages of Americans to listen and watch? My wife yells at the TV -- and sometimes me -- "why do we pay attention to these idiots?"

Regrettably, we have to. Of course Media Matters and Rachel Maddow and so many others chronicle all their provable lies and ideological hysteria. Most Americans understand that they are the WWF of talk -- we know they're frauds but sure are entertaining.

Most. But not all.

A quarter of the country, give or take, believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President and Barack Obama is a socialist and a Muslim -- and not much will change their minds. They have a "content bias" so severe -- watch Tea Party rallies -- that even proof of the contrary only makes them dig in deeper. Perhaps another third of America regularly support Democrats, science and regulated capitalism. The final 40 percent are self-defined Independents who could tip one way or the other depending on conditions and intensity.

And the repetitive intensity of Limbaugh, Beck and Fox "News" is living proof of Mark Twain's wisdom that "a lie gets half-way around the world before truth puts on its boots." As John Kerry found out to his dismay when he was swiftboated, not answering absurd, repeated charges runs the risk that they will become embedded truth to small numbers of key voters.

Unless Democrats and the reality-based world are willing to surrender power to a reactionary fringe, it's essential that they fight lies with facts. It's essential that they understand that the problem is not just Fox, which has at most 2 million steady viewers, but Screed Radio which has probably 20 million. 91% of all radio talk is conservative and permit no exchanges, only monologues.

How often does Limbaugh ever debate anyone in real time or allow liberals on air? Does Sarah Palin say anything other than on Facebook and Fox? Ever answer serious questions?

So let's get used to a world where elections and governance are determined often at the margins, like 537 votes in Florida in 2000, and that Limbaugh and Beck are in the business of out-exaggerating each other for headlines and ratings to grab 3 percent. No need to appeal to a majority in that world.

Should the President then have even mentioned Limbaugh in his CBS morning interview? The reality is that these two benefit from each other since they have different audiences. Limbaugh has to rile his Dittoheads by always staying offensively on the offensive against Obama. And Obama has to persuade the majority who don't like Limbaugh. These mutually beneficial exchanges, therefore, will continue.

So when the far (f)right goes on and goes off about Obama's ruining the economy and is a "totalitarian," the rest of us can't merely scoff but have an obligation to calmly point out the obvious in whatever platforms are available that a) actually it was W who crashed the economy and the unemployment rate under Reagan in his 15th month was higher than Obama's and b) enacting laws because you won electoral majorities is called democracy.

Such a debate won't sway the "loud minority" in Sen. Harry Reid's nice phrase but some open-minded Independents will realize that those who are purely negative and nasty are not the true patriots. It's a job and we all have to do it."

http://www.alternet.org/news/146371/does_rush_limbaugh_really_matter
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:03 AM
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1. I agree absolutely
and these vitriolic voices have far more power in the states that have one or a handful of Representatives but still two Senators as the rural folks (like me) spend a lot of time in trucks and cars driving around listening to these crazies.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:35 AM
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2. K&R. . .
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:42 AM
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3. KnR....The GOPiacs suffer from the "EMPTY QUIVER FACTOR"
EMPTY::::

Language

Promises

Plans

Mode/Polarity

Solutions

Obamaism is killing the GOP...they are stymied into Humpty Dumpty Pieces...

Flailing with tribalesque intimidation gestures and rhetoric, the Baggers/GOP continue digging their hole deeper than mine shafts with Chicken Little Fear Stories..

Ain't gonna work...Obama Power too strong and more APPEALING

Look for the Death of the GOP Surge and the Escalating Decline of thr GOP's Grip on America
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 05:43 AM
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4. But, republicons have the best Family Values Faux Diaper Bondage Sex with Lesbian Hookers
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 05:43 AM by SpiralHawk
Ya gotta give them that.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 05:49 AM
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5. LOL...they seem like a Diviant bunch now that ya mention it....LOL
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 07:10 AM
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6. "seem" is not the operative word...
Edited on Fri Apr-09-10 07:12 AM by SpiralHawk
... alas, this is the sorry state of Republicon Reality.

Come, we go drink fresh-squeezed pomegranate juice and ponder the peculiar & putrid perversions of the so-called Family Values Fetish Freaks (R).

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 12:10 PM
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7. Pomegranate Wine??? Looks delicious....we have them here in Hawaii
re GOP....they are toast

The Floodgates of TRUTH are Open....trumping drowning all the Moot shit of the GOP...they are not of Fam Vals and of Country First...

They are of the Negative Group in our Society trying like Hell to appear Pos. Their recent transgressions reveal their Polarity in Spades and diapers....LOL

The GOP has morphed itself into a very Dangerous and UNSTABLE Party...controlled by inadequate Peters

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