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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:32 PM
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Hookay, Freeps, Beck, Limbaugh.. I know this is tough and reading is for wimps..
but a dictionary can be a valuable tool. Let me show you:

lib·er·al    Show IPA
–adjective
1.
favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2.
(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3.
of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4.
favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5.
favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6.
of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7.
free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8.
open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
9.
characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
10.
given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11.
not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12.
of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13.
of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun
14.
a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15.
(often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.

Now I know this is hard and it may take you a few days to absorb all those definitions.. but I would like you to pay close attention to numbers 4-8 and explain to me how Hitler was a liberal....

Now I would like you to read number 4 again.. and again, and again...

Now I understand that that bastard Webster was probably some pinko liberal in disguise and he probably fudged the definitions back in the day because he just knew you lovely people were going to try to call Hitler, Mao, and Stalin Liberals, but you do realize that the definition I just posted is the understood definition around the world. Right? Because I have to assume that you just love to wallow in the fact that you are an international joke. I know you don't care what any non-American, hell, what any non whites think of you, but really you are just embarrassing yourselves as usual. Don't you ever get tired of looking like and sounding like fools? Wouldn't it be smarter to learn how to read and write and look words up in the dictionary? You might actually get someone to give your opinions an ounce of credibility if you demonstrated an understanding of the english language that you so want to make the official language of America.


Bill Hicks: I was in a diner reading a book and having some lunch when the waitress came up to me and asked "Watcha reading for". Not "watcha reading" but "watcha reading for." :rofl:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 09:56 PM
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1. I've had fun with this over the years, too.
I keep my definition of liberal from Merriam-Webster handy-

Main Entry: 1lib·er·al
Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
Date: 14th century

1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2 a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver> b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c : ample, full
3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious
4 : not literal or strict : loose <a liberal translation>
5 : broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives

— lib·er·al·ly \-b(ə-)rə-lē\ adverb

— lib·er·al·ness noun
synonyms liberal, generous, bountiful, munificent mean giving or given freely and unstintingly. liberal suggests openhandedness in the giver and largeness in the thing or amount given <a teacher liberal with her praise>. generous stresses warmhearted readiness to give more than size or importance of the gift <a generous offer of help>. bountiful suggests lavish, unremitting giving or providing <children spoiled by bountiful presents>. munificent suggests a scale of giving appropriate to lords or princes <a munificent foundation grant>.


So if you are the antithesis of liberal, I guess that makes you a cheap conformist that is easily led by others. The use that word as an invective, but they really don't know what the word means. Joke's on them.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:01 PM
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2. And the number one definition of conservative is...

con·serv·a·tive
   /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ Show Spelled Show IPA
–adjective
1.
disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:33 PM
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3. "Whatcha readin' for?" - classic
Some define the terms this way:

Liberal: someone who wants to make sure everybody gets what they need.

Conservative: someone who wants to make sure nobody gets anything they don't deserve.
The trick with this is figuring out who is and isn't deserving.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 08:51 AM
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4. vs. Conservative: conserving whatever is already a given, NO "newness" i.e. the opposite of Freedom
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 08:58 AM by patrice
Nothing different

No one who is not already one of "Us"

The Same ___________________

Only Old

ONLY I/me/my/mine NOT You/yours

EX - clusive
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