YouTube of American troops apparently shooting civilians

[Truth2Tell]

I posted this video on DU like two years ago. I got flamed.

So can we talk about this now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq1Gd3OnGk

[zeemike]

1. They love their work.

And that is what you get when you have an all volunteer force.

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[Electric Monk]

3. The homophone you're looking for is "sight", not "site".

Enjoy your stay. I suspect it may be brief.

[walldude]

5. Well, I think after we killed over a million muslims that would about make us

even right? I mean that's like 30,000 or so Muslims for every American that died on 9/11. Or do you need more? What will satisfy your lust for revenge?


Oh and kudos for the clever screen name, you freeps are nothing if not cutesy.

[Robbie88]

6. Enjoy your stay, troll.

n/t

[Electric Monk]

7. So your endorsing the killing of civilians who might be muslim justifies their killing you too?

Same logic.

[Rex]

9. So you think they slaughtered people, because images of 9/11 flashed before their eyes?

Wow, you will be easy.

[BlooInBloo]

4. Oh. I thought you were talking about cops for a second....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/07/michael-hunter-former-new_n_529571.html

"NEW ORLEANS — A former New Orleans police officer told federal authorities he saw a fellow officer shoot and kick unarmed, wounded civilians in a deadly incident on a bridge in Hurricane Katrina's aftermath, marking the first time an officer has provided federal authorities with an eyewitness account of the events.

The former officer, Michael Hunter, pleaded guilty Wednesday to helping cover up the shootings on the Danziger Bridge less than a week after the August 2005 storm...."

[Swamp Rat]

11. I was driving over the "high-rise" from New Orleans East yesterday

and looked over at the Danziger Bridge, and thought about that. :(

[Truth2Tell]

12. Thanks for bringing that up Bloo

I posted this video not because I think it provides conclusive proof of the killing of civilians. The circumstances are all a bit unclear. What is does provide is a compelling view into the mindset of the kids - and those guys are kids - on the front lines over there. Where is the goddamn leadership? Is this the best we can put forward spreading freedom?

The culture that created the events on the bridge in NO is on full display in this video. It's all part of a larger problem right before our eyes yet out of sight.

[windbreeze]

8. Just think...they will come home

(or already have)and will be forced to adjust to civilian life....any man/woman who goes to war is changed forever...they are no longer the same loved one who left, even though they may look the same, inside they are changed....war did that to them, and that change has become a part of them, for better or worse..to me, the way these troops acted is sickening....but as in Vietnam, the troops didn't know who's friend, who's foe.....and what the video does not show or tell us, is...what their orders were...and IF they were targeting some particular people they knew were going to be at that spot at that time, or were they just killing because they could....

It seemed they were killing just to be killing w/o giving a thought to the fact that those were actual living, breathing human beings...So having watched this, I wonder would they ever fire on American citizens? Would you trust it?...personally, I hope we never find out......Although to be fair, hundreds of thousands came home from Vietnam, and didn't go on senseless killing sprees against civilians (but Kent state did happen)....

I feel things have changed, and this killing seemed as though they were playing a video game at home, where nothing is real, those people didn't really die, and they could yell and celebrate as much as they wanted...I don't believe I have ever seen any film/video of American soldiers in Nam, acting like this...NO, I haven't forgotten My Lai, but I just don't envision the troops then, acting in the same manner over the deaths they caused, as these troops, perhaps I'm wrong....(maybe 10/15 years of conditioning in front of a TV w/video games would have saved some of those we see with vacant eyes)wb

[cliffordu]

10. Uh, Kent state had nothing to do with active duty troops killing civilians

of their own accord.

They were National Guard troops who NEVER should have been given live ammo for that action, and AFAIK none of the shooters were Vietnam Vets.

No combat veteran I know would have shot those kids. Kicked their asses off the quad, for sure, but never use live ammo on civilians.

Playing fast and loose with "facts" gets your whole post marginalized.

Try harder.

[windbreeze]

13. you are correct

I probably could have said this better...then again, maybe not....Kent State happened, CORRECT?...the men who shot the kids were, on duty, in uniform, and armed? CORRECT?...They were considered troops, CORRECT? Did I say anywhere that they were combat veterans or VN Veterans?...in actuality, I said that hundreds of thousands came home from VN...and DIDN'T go on senseless killing sprees against civilians....CORRECT?? How is any of that, playing loose with facts that get the whole post marginalized??

What I said.....
"It seemed they were killing just to be killing w/o giving a thought to the fact that those were actual living, breathing human beings...So having watched this, I wonder would they ever fire on American citizens? Would you trust it?...personally, I hope we never find out......Although to be fair, hundreds of thousands came home from Vietnam, and didn't go on senseless killing sprees against civilians (but Kent state did happen)....

Perhaps I can explain?....
I don't think I'd trust the troops in that particular video not to fire on civilians at home,(because their glee at shooting Iraqi's seemed slightly unhinged, as though it was a video game they were playing, and not reality) then I made a comparison....however, in all fairness h o t came home from VN, and didn't kill anyone, once home...meaning, perhaps this would be true again.....and then I added....(but Kent State did happen) as an afterthought.....because it WAS a situation where "troops" (irregardless of what kind of "troops" they were) did fire at civilians here in the US....

It was NEVER my intent to try to convince anyone that VN combat vets were responsible for that tragedy..so I was wrong for assuming that everyone already knew those involved were National Guard Troops....probably would have been better to have not mentioned Kent State at all...however, it was kinda related, imo....wb

[Truth2Tell]

14. Just your post title by itself might have sufficed.

:)

[windbreeze]

16. Actually, that's quite true..

but once I go ahead and dig a hole...I have to climb in...wb

[ManiacJoe]

15. Is that the correct link?

That video shows lots of gun fire on an empty street except when two cars drove through.