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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:06 PM
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CNN Has gone completely to shit
I just put CNN on the same parental block as I have Fox on.

The two are indiscernible now.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:10 PM
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1. Lost their souls to go for ratings (if indeed they ever had any!)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:13 PM
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2. Depends when you check in
And I am hoping for a Shuster hour...
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:15 PM
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3. In a few days you will feel better then you have in a while. Both of those
channels are a complete waste of time. If you thought you were being informed by watching them you were wrong.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:16 PM
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4. What took you so long?
It's been years since I watched that corporate swill.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:19 PM
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5. Same here. Their ONLY redeeming value was the expose on the Haiti quake. Other
than that they have been Faux2 for a long time.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:22 PM
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6. So they've improved have they?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:22 PM
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7. I only watch them for their 55 hourly minutes of entertainment news
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:23 PM
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8. I don't watch either of them, or any of them. Why should I?
They are not the fount and be all and end all of knowledge. The Internet is a big place.

Also the right is always going ga-ga and getting worked up as they parrot what Rushbo and Beck tell them so they don't have to think for themselves, so I avoid becoming a worshiper of our talking heads who are always so insightfully on fire and form my own opinions.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:24 PM
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9. Their web site is also terrible.
dull dull dull
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Mother Smuckers Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:24 PM
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10. You mean Ted Turner has left?
eeeeek
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:40 PM
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14. Ted Turner left a decade ago, and that's what caused CNN's gradual red shift.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:58 PM
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16. Turner got set up and railroaded out thru AOL/TimeWarner sneaky dealings.
Kingdom Holdings and other Bush cronies gained control of CNN long ago.
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Mother Smuckers Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:59 PM
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17. sorry I was trying to make a joke, not sure how to do it here yet
my bad
haha
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:27 PM
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11. I haven't watched CNN in years.
They have been crap for a long time now.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:28 PM
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12. All television news..
... including cable and broadcast networks, is pure propaganda bullshit. There is no useful information, only half-ass biased stories to influence your opinion.

Why any person with an IQ above 90 would watch that shit is beyond me.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:34 PM
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13. Historic perspective: CNN Says Focus on Civilian Casualties Would Be "Perverse"
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 05:35 PM by chill_wind


CNN Says Focus on Civilian Casualties Would Be "Perverse"

11/1/01


According to the Washington Post (10/31/01), CNN Chair Walter Isaacson "has ordered his staff to balance images of civilian devastation in Afghan cities with reminders that the Taliban harbors murderous terrorists, saying it 'seems perverse to focus too much on the casualties or hardship in Afghanistan.'"

Post media reporter Howard Kurtz quotes a memo from Isaacson to CNN's international correspondents: "As we get good reports from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, we must redouble our efforts to make sure we do not seem to be simply reporting from their vantage or perspective. We must talk about how the Taliban are using civilian shields and how the Taliban have harbored the terrorists responsible for killing close to 5,000 innocent people."

The memo went on to admonish reporters covering civilian deaths not to "forget it is that country's leaders who are responsible for the situation Afghanistan is now in," suggesting that journalists should lay responsibility for civilian casualties at the Taliban's door, not the U.S. military's.

Kurtz also quotes a follow-up memo from Rick Davis, CNN's head of standards and practices, that suggested sample language for news anchors:



" 'We must keep in mind, after seeing reports like this from Taliban-controlled areas, that these U.S. military actions are in response to a terrorist attack that killed close to 5,000 innocent people in the U.S.' or, 'We must keep in mind, after seeing reports like this, that the Taliban regime in Afghanistan continues to harbor terrorists who have praised the September 11 attacks that killed close to 5,000 innocent people in the U.S.,' or 'The Pentagon has repeatedly stressed that it is trying to minimize civilian casualties in Afghanistan, even as the Taliban regime continues to harbor terrorists who are connected to the September 11 attacks that claimed thousands of innocent lives in the U.S.' "



Davis stated that "even though it may start sounding rote, it is important that we make this point each time."




http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1670

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They were co-opted a full decade ago. Longer than that, really, if you go back to the Pentagon PsyOps
stories F.A.I.R. reported on, going back to Kosovo.

Why Were Government Propaganda Experts Working On News At CNN?


Reports in the Dutch newspaper Trouw (2/21/00, 2/25/00) and France's Intelligence Newsletter (2/17/00) have revealed that several officers from the US Army's 4th Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) Group at Ft. Bragg worked in the news division at CNN's Atlanta headquarters last year, starting in the final days of the Kosovo War.

3/27/00


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1748
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:55 PM
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15. I deleted them all from my lineup years ago.
No TeeVee Newz for me! :thumbsup:
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:03 PM
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18. They have always been on the edge of shitdom
I remember that they were put on the map by Gulf War I. I can still hear those ridiculous sounding, Roman army-esque drums during the station break as they were covering "Desert Storm". Dum dum dee dum dum dee DUMMMMMMMMMMM.

Pathetic.

They have since vacilitated back and forth from left to right in the tone of their reports, but lately there has been a sustained list to the right that no doubt comes from their desire for higher ratings and ad revenue they think they see at FAUX.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:28 PM
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19. I agree!. . .I already sent them a comment about it. . .got a mail saying they received my comment
but no real answer!

I think I'll just stop watching them too! How can they turn so quickly???
Is the whole world going crazy???
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:57 PM
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20. Fox has moved off the charts to the right,
and sucked CNN into the radical right-wing vacuum it left in its wake.

Will CNN now suck MSNBC into the right-of-center where CNN once dwelt?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:42 PM
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22. MSNBC is already there
Three hours of true blue programming (plus one hour where you flip a coin and Tweety goes red or blue based upon the call) out of the entire day does not a liberal station make.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 07:01 PM
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21. Just can't watch 24 hour cable "news" stations
Well, I admit to tuning in to Keith and Rachel. But how I long for the early days of CNN Headline News - thirty minutes of news, no fluff. Those days are long gone. If I'm going to watch "news" on the tube, I will turn to our PBS station and watch BBC America.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 03:53 PM
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23. Except for an occasional surf through, I haven't watched them in months,
& I am in such a better mood for it! You will be too! ;)

Any station that would have Blitzer heading their flagship show is not worth watching. The man cannot think on his feet. If anyone goes off script he's lost. Rick Sanchez talks to the audience like they are first graders & there's just something I can't stand about Campbell Brown.

Before the '08 election Cooper had a 'round table' discussion with Zakaria & Gergen that was very good. Reasoned, intelligent discussion - no shout fests. I wish they'd do more like that, but in fact, they have strayed further & further into the realm of insignificance.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 03:56 PM
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24. Why do you need to block it?
When we tell the kids that something is stupid and not to waste their time, they leave it alone but I think that watching FN and CNN occasionally is good training for how the MSM delivers propaganda to their public. It's important to know the lies they're spreading so that kids will learn to THINK.

JMHO.
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