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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:38 PM
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Oops -Guardians of the free Republics tied to Texas radio host Sam Kennedy
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0402/Guardians-of-the-free-Republics-tied-to-Texas-radio-station
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The FBI interviewed radio host Sam Kennedy on Friday. Mr. Kennedy is 'up to his eyeballs' in the Guardians of the free Republics, says the owner of a Texas radio station, and is behind letters sent to all 50 governors. The letters prompted an FBI investigation.

The man at the center of the Guardians of the free Republics is Texas talk-show host Sam Kennedy – and he's already gotten a Texas radio station in hot water as law enforcement reacted rapidly to what has been construed as a direct threat to all 50 US governors.

Mr. Kennedy "is the focal point of this, these guardians. He was in the mix in setting this whole thing up, and he's up to his eyeballs in this Restore America project," says John Stadtmiller, who runs Republic Broadcasting Network based in Round Rock, Texas, which broadcasts Kennedy's weekly "Take No Prisoners" show. Restore America project, as articulated on the Guardians of the free Republics website, is part screed, part call to action to depose an illegitimate government in favor of restoring the people's "common law."

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:43 PM
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1. Was Hunting This Fellow Up A Few Days Ago, Ma'am, On The Inter-Webs....
One of his shticks is telling people they do not have to pay debts or taxes, and there must have been some repercussions, because near some of these titles these words could be found:

"For entertainment purposes only. Not intended as legal advice."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:47 PM
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2. Interesting Sir
Post some links for us :hi:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:00 PM
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8. Scroll Down To The Bottom Of Post Two, Ma'am
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:01 PM
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10. Thank you Sir
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 06:17 PM by malaise
:D

I found that letter to Sam very interesting.

sp
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:47 PM
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3. I hope he can be charged with crimes here
These right wing talking heads need to figure it out sooner or later that the government will hold them to account for their actions.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:48 PM
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4. What is "the people's 'common law?'"
Wouldn't an election be part of that? Or do these folks want to overthrow the results of an election because someone of the "wrong" color won?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:52 PM
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6. I found this
http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubID.1009/pub_detail.asp and you'd think law professors would demonstrate better English.

It seems to be one of those Federalist Society buzzwords that is never quite defined except in terms of what they dislike most about this country.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:00 PM
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9. That's all it's about
They don't give a flying fugg about democracy
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:49 PM
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5. 'restoring the people's "common law."' - - which IS??
:scared:
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:59 PM
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7. Is it like "English Common Law"? I've heard of that
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 05:59 PM by haele
Guess that means they're all Episcopalians...

Haele
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:55 PM
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12. There's "common law" in England (and most of the US); and there's the Common Law Court Movement
Common law is the system of deciding cases that originated in England and which was latter adopted in the U.S.. Common law is based on precedent (legal principles developed in earlier case law) instead of statutory laws. It is the traditional law of an area or region created by judges when deciding individual disputes or cases. Common law changes over time.

The U.S. is a common law country. In all states except Louisiana, which is based on Napoleonic code, the common law of England was adopted as the general law of the state, or varied by statute. Today almost all common law has been enacted into statutes with modern variations by all the states. Broad areas of the law, such as property, contracts and torts are traditionally part of the common law. Because these areas of the law are mostly within the jurisdiction of the states, state courts are the main source of common law. The area of federal common law is primarily limited to federal issues that have not been addressed by a statute.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/common-law/


The 'Common Law Court Movement', from 1997:

What the Texas appeals court was just beginning to perceive were the beginnings of a movement created by recalcitrant self-proclaimed "sovereign citizens" determined to wrest control of their lives back from all forms of government or authority. Appearing first in isolated spots in Texas and Florida, the notion of "common law courts" soon spread to Kansas and other farm states, then quickly across the nation. The "common law court movement," as it has somewhat clumsily come to be called, now exists in some form in every state in the country. In some states, activity is minimal; in others common law courts are a serious nuisance; in some, they are a plague on the judicial system. Although featured on television shows like "20/20," common law courts did not really breach the public consciousness until the spring of 1996, when FBI agents surrounded a frigid eastern Montana farm to wait out two dozen recalcitrant tax protesters that locals dubbed "freemen." In reality, however, common law adherents had been active for years in different areas across the country. Frustrated county clerks knew of the strange filings made in their offices; puzzled policemen encountered confrontational motorists pulled over for homemade license plates; irritated lawyers discovered that bogus liens had been placed on their property by court opponents. But there was little public awareness or understanding of the movement. The media reported that Oklahoma City bombing suspect Terry Nichols had declared himself a "sovereign citizen," but treated it as a random, bizarre act by a right-wing extremist, not as an action by someone consciously part of an ideological movement.
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Posse ideology, however, places a far different meaning and reliance on common law. Though there are many different strains and theories of Posse common law, a common thread that runs through most of them is that the common law is a separate, parallel legal/judicial system, one independent from and not subordinate to statutory or written law. For example, throughout the 1980s and 1990s, Posse adherents came up with inventions such as "common law trusts" and "common law banks." What these concepts have in common is the notion that the normal written laws governing the establishment of trusts or the regulation of banks do not apply to these institutions, because they are beholden only to the "common law." In other words, the term "common law" was attached to the word "bank" as a (futile) attempt to avoid the law.

Every common law theorist or group has a slightly different explanation for the origins of and nature of their version of "common law," but the following broad summary of their beliefs is general enough to hold for most circumstances. The key, as mentioned above, is that Posse adherents believe in "common law" as independent of (and even hostile to) other alleged legal systems, rather than all being part of a whole (9).

According to common law doctrine, the common law originated in the Middle Ages to protect property rights. The American Revolution destroyed allegiance to the British crown, but kept common law rights of property. This situation made every man "sovereign" over his own property. Neither Congress nor state legislatures nor county or city ordinance nor judicial ruling by any courts could deprive people of their common law rights, including their rights to "allodial" property (an ancient concept describing property that could not be lost for failure to pay taxes; it never applied in the United States, although some states did enact "homestead" laws). Grievances were to be settled by common law juries which decided the facts and the law of the case.

http://www.adl.org/mwd/COMMON.asp


A lot more at that second link. Basically, it's a right wing movement who claim they have a 'common law' right to set up their own courts to decide on matters traditionally covered by English common law, and that no statute law can be passed to override that - which they they say means they don't have to pay taxes. They tend to say this while heavily armed. It's fairly closely linked to the militia and Ruby Ridge types.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:07 PM
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18. Short version: Sharia for White folks. nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:02 PM
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19. No, not really; more like "armed Christian anarchy"
Their main purpose seems to be 'pay no taxes' and 'hold on to what I say is my property'. They are also frequently white supremacist and wanting fundamentalist Christian morality imposed on everyone too, but the last thing they want is a legal system with 'experts' in, like Sharia. They love the idea of a jury, which to them is 'twelve people who agree with me'.

I think their ideal society was Anglo-Saxon England in the the periods when no particular king was strong. A pre-Hobbesian "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short" existence.
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 06:44 PM
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11. FOX News headline will read:
"Guardians of the free Republic tied to Kennedys"
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:05 PM
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13. LOL
Don't rule it out.
KO about to discuss the letters with Ed Rendell
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 01:07 PM
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16. Ok. ignore my post - self-delete - I got it - I think.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 01:09 PM by peacetalksforall
"Guardians of the free Republic tied to Kennedys"
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:46 PM
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14. I'm shocked he's not from Williamson County
People think I'm kidding when I tell them that's where the Nazis live. I'm not.

dg
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 11:45 AM
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15. Update: FBI, DHS probe ‘Guardians’ who demanded governors resign
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 01:30 PM
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17. Read The Magistrate's link at #8
The loony says sections of the Pentagon and Military are on their side.
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