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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:45 PM Original message |
Ron Paul - Lincoln should've just bought the slaves and freed them. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Some people proposed that |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Poor Ron Paul, doesn't he realize what the slave owners would've done with the money |
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mcollins (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Not through the blockade. |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. No. The Congress prohibited the importation of new slaves after 1808. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. The sad thing is it would have. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. He underestimates the $$$ cost but it is not a laughable idea |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. +1 |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. it wouldn't have changed their need for cheap labor. of course, |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. I agree. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obviously he never learned that basically everybody in the confederate army didn't own slaves |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Then they still would have been considered chattel |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Exactly |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Importing slaves was outlawed by that point |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Actually, at that time, "supposedly" there was a law against any new slaves from |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Importation of slaves was banned Jan. 01, 1808 |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. Banning slave importation still doesn't solve slavery |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. I never said it did. But you said, "...the slave owners would just import more slaves from Africa." |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Nope. Wouldn't have happened. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. Andrew fucking Ryan... |
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Riverman (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, a Republican Policy to have the tax payers and poor pay |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. Do you have a link for that info on Rokefellers? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. So he thinks slave owners would have sold them if they knew they couldn't buy any more? |
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The Genealogist (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I was wondering the same thing... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. You nailed it. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. He would have had to settle them all in the North |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's always good to hear Ron's solutions to the problems of the mid-19th century |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Duzy! |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. He shoots. He scores. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Too funny! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. LOL! nt |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. Good point! |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. RP is a fucking racist idiot. knr for exposure. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. It works in Britian |
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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. +1 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. and you think that's analogous |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I don't know |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Britain didn't have the kind of institutionalized slavery that the Southern States did |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. But the British Empire had institutionalized slavery, didn't it? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. not where the economy was dependent upon it. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. The sugar plantations in the British Caribbean weren't dependent on slavery? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
70. Fair point.. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
68. Very different situation |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. Then, Lincoln would have had a ton of dip-shits like Paul bitching about... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yeah, and with mass transit everywhere in the South, it'd be pretty easy to figure out |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. He doesn't think much past his ten fingers, does he? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Just the opposite. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. You are naive. They would have found another source, maybe orphans |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Now you are just being silly. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
65. They would simply have refused to sell them to him. End of story. nt |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
28. States "sovereign nations"?? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. a case of someone who is so intelligent being totally ignorant |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Congress had banned it in 1808. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. can't they bring them in illegally ? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Bring them in illegally from where? |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 05:06 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Congress did not have that authority. |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Of course they did. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Not true. It was suppressed by the British, and banned by US law, however it went on illegally |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. You are playing at the edges. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. You said the atlantic slave trade had gone out of existence due to lack of demand |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I was correct. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. You asked, rhetorically, "Where are they going to get them?" And you got an answer: |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Assuming they stayed in the Union and that is the assumption |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. ...and drive up prices, so they'd run and get more from Africa |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
67. Guess what Ron and his Libertarian asshole buddies would have been |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
42. That's so socialist. What, is the gov. in the slave trading business? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. Has Dennis Kucinich commented on this yet? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
49. Hampton Roads Peace Conference-Lincoln offered to compensate some slave owners for a percentage of |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
50. The Declarations of Secession don't claim that the war is about losing property. |
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jonathan_seer (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
55. The laws that made slavery legal render his comment pure idiocy - here's why. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. Jeeezus what an idiot. Hey, Ron, what do you think slaveowners would do with all that money? |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
58. So much wrong with this I wouldn't know where to start... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
59. I don't think that would have solved... |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
61. Ron Paul Isn't Worthy EnoughTo Utter Lincoln's Name........ (n/t) |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
62. Ron Paul never saw 'property' that he didn't like |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
63. You can't buy what isn't property. n/t |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Wouldn't Ron Paul's cost-benefit analysis suggest that shirking ideal was worth it? nt |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
76. Spending taxpayer money? That would have NOT gone over well with the public - |
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