Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Graphs comparing recessions since 1948 show this one is really, really bad...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:37 PM
Original message
Graphs comparing recessions since 1948 show this one is really, really bad...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:41 PM
Response to Original message
1. Odd that the % change in unemployment is shown in blue.
Makes one wonder.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. well, they keep saying it's the worst economic downturn since the great depression.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
3. Cool site. Thanks. It's becoming more and more likely that we have bottomed out. nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. I don't think there's much doubt anymore that we are in recovery.
There is a lot of legitimate debate about the durability and scope of the recovery, but there is little doubt that economic output is expanding again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:47 PM
Response to Original message
4. Good graphs, but something strikes me right off the bat. It gives graphs for both
1980 and 1981 recessions, both graphs go into 30 months. So how is it that the graph for 1981 isn't just included in the 1980 graph?

If the two were blended I think we would find that it would still show it was less bad than this one, but still, I don't understand how or why the 1980 recession is split into two parts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Because they were two different recessions.
There was a recession in 1980 that lasted only six months. Then it appeared to rebound, only to double-dip into what is known as the early 80s recession, which lasted over a year.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. My point exactly, it turned out not to be the end, so why paint it as such?
Some of the other graphs show little rebounds and redrops. Or perhaps if he graph stopped at the 6month, but it doesn't, so there's an overlap in there that makes both of those graphs somewhat suspect.

Anyway, thanks for trying to explain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
6. An economist on Bloomberg, yesterday, said the Unemployment
in this recession is greater than the last four recessions
combined.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. That statement doesn't make sense.
If he's measuring by unemployment rate, 1981 was worse. The cumulative amount of unemployment in prior four recessions as a percent of the labor force (the only meaningful comparison) would be larger. Yes, the increase in unemployment is larger than ANY of the past four recessions, but it would be an odd measurement to come up with what they said.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:17 PM
Response to Original message
10. Tool-monkeys making eye-candy for the internetz, but lacking
the requisite knowledge to make the charts meaningful.

If you look at the numbers behind the charts there is much more to be gleaned.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
11. Definitely ugly, but it looks like it is getting better
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 04:02 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC