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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:10 AM Original message |
What are your thoughts on the MA. bullying case? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. The teachers and administrators also need to be held accountable! n/t |
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left coaster (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Absolutely! nt |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I think the bulliers parents should be held accountable too |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Absolutely!!! n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Hell yes they need to be held accountable |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. +1000% -- |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. That made me livid. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. Check out |
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Rocknrule (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is what they should have done in the Paducah and Columbine cases |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'll be on NPR to discuss this |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
8. how about the parents who had the big hand in raising these bullying personalities |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
80. I think the law should be especially hard on them. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
9. Several thoughts. First, this story ripped my heart out... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. +1000, n/t |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. It ripped my heart out to |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. Bullying is not taken seriously |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. I have never understood why high school teachers allow this to go on |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. As to "why?" HS teachers let this happen... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I guess I just can't buy into this being normal |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. One guess is: Some highschool teachers are afraid of their |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. That might be but hopefully it's rare. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. We used to have a HS principal that hid in the closet in his office and locked the door if bullies |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Because they just don't care. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I disagree strongly |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I think that's precisely why they don't care. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If they really care about money they would go find different jobs |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Get real. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I have taught for 30 years |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. I didn't start having problems. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. Parents go nuclear when their little snowflakes are disciplined for bullying |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. even elementary teachers will turn a blind eye |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
81. I was fortunate that my teachers who were nuns, er excuse me sisters, |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
14. the Principle didn't do the job and stop it in the beginning |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. How soon did the principal know? |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. Bullying |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I have to wonder why there aren't more kids like your friend's 15yo. |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
17. Teachers somehow failed to notice any bullying. I knew lots of teachers like that- |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I had a teacher in 6th grade that not only didn't stop bullying, |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
19. I would like to see a synopsis of the cast of characters and what they are accused of doing |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think her tormentors should be publicly outed. |
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Cal33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes. Making it public certainly would influence all the other |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. +1000, n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
28. I Am Glad to See Some Accountability |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
29. I think it's disgusting that the prosecutor is throwing statutory charges into the mix. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Sorry I don't agree |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. But only one of the boys who got the statutory charge also got the |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I don't know |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. He was indicted for statutory only, |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I am still deferring to the prosecutor |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. I would agree with you in almost every other situation |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Then the prosecutor needs to go after the dead girl post-mortem, too. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Oh. I was under the impression that two boys who had sex with were also taking part in the bullying |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Only one of them. The other is charged with statutory only. n/t |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. I just looked up an article about the bullies. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-10 07:36 AM Response to Reply #52 |
89. The boy charged "only" with statutory rape |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I don't think so |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. 'Didn't help her any' is no reason to ruin his life with a statutory charge. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. well you have a right to your opinion |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Agreed on the school admin inaction. |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'm sure Phoebe's parents would rather have her alive |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
73. Delete. Dupe. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. Agree with all ya said |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
37. The vicious students should |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. The students have been indicted on a number of criminal charges |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Pretty much sums it up for me too. n/t |
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Robyn66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
45. Nothing that will be done can bring Phoebe back |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. My view is that it's a witch hunt. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. My view point is that you are wrong. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Case in point. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
84. You really have zero empathy. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Wow, you really ARE an asshole! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. If you're so upset about bullying, why are you calling names? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. my god |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. You never disappoint. n/t |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. +1 |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. Does this person have a history of this kind of attitude? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I have. |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. You're Revealing A Lot More About Yourself Than You Intended To. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Actually, I think I'm letting other people prove my point for me. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. sounds like you are defending bullying |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I'm saying bullies should be held accountable for what they do. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. They are accessories, plain and simple. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
66. Brings up some bad memories for me. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
74. I think it's astounding that we have "Zero tolerance" for stuff like advil |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Why is it astounding... it's the path of least resolve. |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Thanks... that is the most succint explanation I have read of |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. I'll be honest with you. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
79. I think bullying should be right up there with other crimes children can |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
88. As a kid who was bullied, I think it's time administrators got slapped around |
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