Should Dr. Conrad Murray be held responsible for Michael Jackson's death?

[apples and oranges]

It appears that Michael Jackson was determined to get those drugs. If it wasn't through Murray, it would have been through someone else. Or it might have been with another drug. I'm almost positive the result would have been the same. So does it make sense to send Dr. Murray to prison?

[Donnachaidh]

1. Using your logic we should open the prisons and let all the drug dealers go

Uhh -- no. He needs to go to jail.

Or is it just *because* he's a doctor?

[maxsolomon]

2. involuntary manslaughter & loss of medical license seems appropriate

but maybe a bit excessive. murray basically got left holding the bag.

ultimately, jackson did it to himself, but SOMEONE MUST BE BLAMED.

[CountAllVotes]

3. Murray belongs in prison

among other things, it was found that he was having the drug Propofol shipped to his girlfriend living at HIS RESIDENCE in Santa Monica, CA.

Michael Jackson did not administer this drug to himself as it is impossible to do so.

Dr. Murray (who no longer should be referred to as a "doctor") was negligent plain and simple at the very least.

Murray needs to rot in prison for a long long time for his crime of manslaughter. Whether it was voluntary manslaughter (aka MURDER) or involuntary manslaughter has yet to be determined or so they say.

Personally, I believe MJ was murdered as he was worth more dead than alive as we are now seeing. Listen to the lyrics of some of his songs - he sings about how "they" are out to get him more than once.

:kick: for Michael Jackson!

[Warpy]

4. Having administered the drug, Murray was required to monitor his patient

It's unclear whether adequate equipment was in the room to monitor him, much less resuscitate him should something happen.

Murray left the room. That's clear negligence with this particular drug with very little legal wiggle room.

It's just a crying shame Jackson had to involve a doctor and that dangerous a drug.

And yes, he'd have offed himself far sooner had Dr. Murray not been around. However, Murray was negligent.

[xultar]

7. It has been said that the drug should never be given outside of hospital.

I'd assume because of all the monitoring. No way Murray could monitor Michael that closely by himself.

[Warpy]

9. It's a short acting anesthetic agent that can be safely administered

in a clinic where there is adequate equipment to monitor a patient. Jackson could conceivably have had that equipment present.

Murray was just not in the room and was therefore unaware Jackson had run into trouble. A patient who has been anesthetized should never be unattended.

[xultar]

5. If a woman wants to get it on with a particular guy but ends up being raped by another...

we shouldn't send the rapist to jail?
It is the same logic.
:crazy:

[rollin74]

6. no "doctor" in their right mind

would administer Propofol to a patient in their home to help them get to sleep. It's insane and a complete misuse of the drug. A fatal outcome should be a surprise to no one.

He needs to be severely punished imo

[xultar]

8. +1

[calico1]

10. What happened to "first, do no harm?

I do not think it is first degree murder or anything like that, but clearly he was very irresponsible.

These doctors to the stars put fame and greed ahead of their profession. As I understand propofol isn't even supposed to be outside of a hospital.

Just because a celebrity wants drugs, doesn't mean that you as a doctor should comply with any demand.

More of these people would still be alive if it were not for doctors like this.

[closeupready]

11. No. His license should be revoked, though.

n/t

[kestrel91316]

12. Murray is a danger to the public, IMHO. He killed a patient through

gross negligence because he was too well-paid to bother practicing good medicine. He needs severe punishment.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

13. No, and it is not about Conrad Murry

There are no laws regulating the drug propofol. In hospitals it is not locked up in the same way narcotics are.The doctor elects to use it, the nurse opens a cabinet door and brings it. Known cases of addiction to propofol are doctors who have admitted to having abused it or have been reported or have received addiction treatment which is the same as turning yourself in.

Since there are no laws in place regulating the drug,how do they prove anything other than negligence?

Here is a legal question that will not be answered until trial if it gets to trial.
Does Conrad Murry have a medical write up on Michael Jacksons drug addiction ,his addiction to propofol; and other drugs,and his method of treatment?

You see the doctor was treating a drug addiction where other than addiction itself not much is known about how to treat it. It's a legal thing here.

And that is also why the federal government has it's line down into it. It's not about Murry it is about any doctor that helped Jackson get the stuff.

No laws regulating the drug in place,

The case should tie up the court for quite some time.
Ever hear of revenge motivated suicide?

Sex offenders can't stop and won't stop until they are stopped.

Although we may never really know for sure,isn't that so ?

I think a lot of michael Jackson fans will be saddened or become very disenchanted when the truth slowly unfolds about what went down.

Remember Carol O'Connor
He gave up on his son's drug addiction.
After his son died of a over dose,
He came out publicly and said
You get in between your kids and those drugs any way you can.
You do it,you do not simply expect somebody else to do what you can not or will not do.



At the time of Jackson's death his mother was the very first Jackson to make up excuses for their own family failures. She said out loud, openly and publicly,well we could not ever get through the door ,the guards kept us out. you see, it's not her fault or her children's fault for giving up on it, it was those locks on those doors.
Oh and of course what kind of doctor is he ,Jackson brothers public statement at the time of death.

If there were not guilt shared in the Jackson family that will never never have been said in public. however Jackson's mother is getting up in the age and that may account for her public statements early on.

She did another public blunder speaking on behalf of the Jackson that was trying to get a tribute concert off ,the one that was canceled and is to take place now in London in June of 2010.

They will no doubt either keep his mother out of court or keep her silent to the press.

Anyhooo, the whole thing is political and it is not about Murry.

[Ozymanithrax]

14. Yes. Dr. Murry knew what he was doing was wrong. He should have said no.

[Catherine Vincent]

15. I'm giving him the benefit of doubt. Innocent until proven guilty.

I'll let the judge and jury decide with the actual facts of the case.