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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:22 AM
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WP: One woman's quest to prosecute Bush

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-bookworm/2010/03/quest_to_prosecute_bush.html


One woman's quest to prosecute Bush

Attorney Charolotte Dennett is on a mission, and it’s summed up in the title of her book, “The People v. Bush: One Lawyer’s Campaign to Bring the President to Justice and the National Grassroots Movement She Encounters Along the Way,” published by Chelsea Green Publishing in February. She made headlines in 2008 when she ran for attorney general of Vermont on a platform to prosecute President Bush for murder and signed up Vincent Bugliosi as her special prosecutor if she won. She lost but continues to push her cause. We posed a few questions to her by email.

What is the basis of your charge?

George W. Bush took our nation to war in Iraq on false pretenses, lying to Congress and the American people that Saddam Hussein was a “great danger to our country” when this was not the case, according to his own intelligence agencies. He absolutely knew death would result from sending troops into harm’s way. At the very least he engaged in an inherently dangerous act with reckless disregard for the consequences and indifference to human life, which constitutes implied malice and 2nd degree murder. Bush is also guilty of war crimes in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the 1996 War Crimes Act. As the ultimate “decider,” he authorized severe torture methods on “high level” detainees.

Does any precedent exist?

There are sound legal precedents for trying Bush in a state criminal court (assuming that the political atmosphere in Washington will not be conducive to a federal trial). Those precedents include:
1) the underlying crime of conspiracy to commit murder, which confers jurisdiction to a state provided there is a) agreement between two or more people (i.e Bush and Cheney in D.C.) to b) further the conspiracy by committing an overt act that occurs within the state (lying to the American people in their separate states through a national TV broadcast that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat )

2) The “effects doctrine,” that holds that if a crime occurs outside the state but has a harmful effect on the people inside the state, then the state has jurisdiction (as spelled out in State v Jack, 124 P.3d 311, “the state can extend jurisdiction under the effects doctrine even where the conduct adversely affecting the state takes place …in another country.”)

3) The doctrine of innocent agent, Title 18 U.S. Code § 2(b) whereby a conspirator (here, Bush in the United States) is criminally liable for setting in motion a chain of events that causes an innocent agent (e.g Iraqi soldiers fighting against a foreign invasion) to commit the unlawful act (the killing of American soldiers).

What has been the response from President Bush?

Bush has never commented on my book or my campaign. After I announced my candidacy for attorney general in 2008, an Associated Press reporter called the White House for a response and was referred over to the Republican National Committee, which promptly denounced my campaign as appealing only to “fringe elements” in American society.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:27 AM
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1. It's appealing to me, that's for sure, addressing the
last sentence. I supported her, support Bugliosi, support our own Bobthedrummer who seems to no longer call us to action, if he is still around DU.
I don't mind being on a supposed "fringe", I don't mind being part of an "element".

I think bringing the criminals to justice is what is elemental, necessary, overdue, and deserved by us and by them.
Damn.
I could get so steamed about it....

Recommended
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:28 AM
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2. Indict them now.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:29 AM
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3. Clearly, Charolotte hasn't gotten down w/the "Look Ahead!" sickness
k/r
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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:38 AM
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4. Another woman laying out the case for "US vs. Bush"
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:13 PM
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5. Then fringe I am proud to be.
Prosecute them

Convict them

Sentence them

and justice will be closer to actually being what it is hailed as.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:29 PM
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6. She has a web site...
http://chardennett.org/

And the book gets very positive reviews on Amazon.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:36 PM
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7. Prosecuting our crimes would go a long way to restoring our position
in the world. Right now we're still dangerous, naive, and ignorant of what is done in our name around the world. We got some back by electing not-bush, but the continuity of policy that he has pursued is wearing that veneer like a belt sander on Chinese sheetrock.

In another decade or so we will no longer be necessary to keep the game going and we could still find ourselves alone and isolated from the rest of the world.


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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:38 PM
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8. Didn't bush think
to pardon himself and cheney for any crimes they might have committed before he left office? Oh wait.....I forgot.....he doesn't think.;(
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:54 PM
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9. it's a shame that obama's doj can't seem to get around to doing that
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:55 PM
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10. K&R
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 04:07 PM
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11. Another precedent is the one set by Bush I when he pushed Gulf War I w/o Congressional approval
:thumbsdown:

They scurried around at the last minute to pretend Congress approved what he said he was going to do anyway.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 04:11 PM
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12. Bump
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:44 PM
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13. K&R
The more the merrier!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 04:43 AM
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14. I'm happy to, once again, be a part of such a large "fringe" group
- was a member of the 14 million that protested the war before it was begun - you all remember us as being a "focus group."

Hurrah for fringe groups!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 07:36 AM
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15. I like. n/t
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 08:00 AM
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16. Dubya/Shooter just can't
seem to match up their accessories with their clothing. I can't wait until they have those little silver bracelets on they will go with their spring and fall fashions.We are not the fringe but the ones who saw a true injustice in that administration.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:39 AM
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17. Bump
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:42 AM
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18. Investigate now!
"Democrats" wont, but they'd have a winner if they did. 100% of their voters and potential voters would love it. Bushists are a lost cause in every way.
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:29 PM
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19. She may be on to something, but......
she only received 5.6% of the vote for Attorney General of VERMONT !! I think that the term "fringe" is used to demean a person or movement, but she certainly does not have a lot of support. If 'bringing Bush to justice' is even remotely a cause for the 2010 election, we are in trouble. Keep your focus.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 05:19 PM
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20. Bump
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:05 AM
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21. “fringe elements”
Those Americans still encumbered by ant-social behaviors like an insistence upon distinguishing fact from fancy.
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