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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:49 AM
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Californians: we HAVE to keep Boxer's seat!
Seriously - the GOP is preparing for a Scott Brown like game change in CA this next election

Meg Whitman CANNOT win, both for the party and for the state of California!

Unlike Coakley, Sen Barbara Boxer is a well liked, extremely smart PROGRESSIVE. Even when it was unfavorable to do so. We have to keep her seat!!!!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:53 AM
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1. We will keep it.
Boxer is very popular, and she's not in danger.

Whitman cannot buy the Senate seat...

Not to worry!

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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:36 PM
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22. Since Whitman is not running for the Senate
Maybe we should worry.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:56 AM
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2. Whitman is a gas-bag...
I've not seen one substantive message from her anywhere... not on the tube, not in the news, nothing. All she and Poizner are doing is bashing each other. Good. Let 'em. Have at it. If I were running a Dem against them, I wouldn't spend a dime until their primary is over and the bile, blood and fecal matter covers the entire Grand Old Poopstains.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:58 AM
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4. Whitman is indeed a gas-bag, but she's running for governor
So we have to keep her from beating Jerry Brown for the open seat.

We do, however, have to keep either Tom Campbell or Carly Fiorina from beating Boxer in the Senate race...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:52 PM
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31. Carly Fiorina is a threat to Boxer?
Seriously?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 09:47 PM
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40. Sadly, at this moment in the polls, yes.
Of course, Tom Campbell may yet win the Wingnut primary. And in managing to appear less wingnutty, he could be the bigger threat...
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 09:48 PM
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41. Where are the latest polls on Fiorina and Campbell?
Fiorina needs to be soundly defeated.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:19 PM
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45. Well, yes, but Boxer will be running against one or the other of them
...and actually, Campbell -- who had a lead in the last Field poll (over Boxer, that is) -- would be harder to beat..
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:28 PM
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47. True
But Fiorina could pull a lot of women with her.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:57 AM
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3. I am not a resident of CA but have many Dem friends who are. A number of them do not support Boxer.
That's not a valid sample but does show Boxer is not liked by all CA Dems.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:02 AM
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8. Real CA Dems vote for CA Dems.
So will your friends.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:06 AM
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10. Interesting to see your support for the following CA Dems.
Baca, Joe (CA-43)
Cardoza, Dennis (CA-18)
Costa, Jim (CA-20)
Harman, Jane (CA-36)
Sanchez, Loretta (CA-47)
Schiff, Adam (CA-29)
Thompson, Mike (CA-01)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:41 AM
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15. We vote for Dems in the general election, or we ain't Dems.
Those Reps you listed are all local, by the way.

Senator, on the other hand, is a statewide office.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 01:59 PM
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20. You said "Real CA Dems vote for CA Dems" so do you support the CA Dems I listed? n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 04:15 PM
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28. If they're running in the general election in my district...
...or if they are running for statewide office against republikkkans, then yes.

"Real CA Dems vote for CA Dems". I think we can agree that "vote" is the key word there.

I am a real California Democrat. I vote for California Democrats like I said.

I think I see what you're trying to get me to say, but that's not what I was saying.

Nice try, though.


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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:49 PM
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29. Just wondering because they are members of the Blue Dog Coalition. n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:09 PM
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35. I figured that's where you were going.
If somebody wants to primary those representatives, that's really up to the people in those specific districts. I don't get into party infighting. I vote Dem in the general. Whoever the Dem candidate is, they get my vote. I will never sit on my hands. I will never stay home. I vote, and I vote Dem.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:18 PM
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36. Sounds like you are a Yellow Dog Democrat like me.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:21 PM
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38. What a gross term!
Still, not inaccurate...lol.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 03:25 PM
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39. Read the history of the term at the link below.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:16 PM
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21.  Remember That Bolt She Held up in Congress? Cost Military More Than Her Wedding Ring?
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 02:17 PM by Mojeoux
Barbara Boxer is my Hero. She WILL keep her seat.

I voted for her when I lived in Marin and I voted for her now that she's a state senator.

Liberals put her in office, and we're still here. The ditto-head teabaggasaurus is not and won't ever run California.
The vote and tide is turning on the Gay Marriage situating every day.

Barbara Boxer for President 20016!
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 03:15 PM
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26. Do you know why they don't support her?
Just wondering.

Thanks.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:50 PM
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30. Apparently the most common issue is her position on illegal aliens. n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:11 PM
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42. So, in light of that, would the Republican opponent be a better choice? -nt
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:13 PM
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43. I have no idea how my Dem friends in CA will vote. n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:18 PM
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44. That, of course, does not qualify as an answer to the question I asked. -nt
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:49 PM
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48. HAHAHAHA! He put me back on Ignore after this!
It's all right. I am not ignoring him, for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who knows me.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:01 AM
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5. Isn't Meg Whitman running for Governor?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:15 AM
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13. Yes. Against Jerry Brown among others. It's that dingbat carly fiorina who's trying to
take Barbara Boxer's job.

Thank goodness Barbara's not inclined to rest on her poll numbers and go take a vacation during campaign season. Boxer's been revving up for this for a couple of years at least. Thank God. She's NO Martha Coakley.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:01 AM
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6. Meg Whitman is running for Governor, not Senate
I'm sure Boxer will make short work of Carly "18,000 HP jobs lost" Fiorina.

As for Jerry Brown vs Meg Whitman, everyone MUST contribute to Brown, so he has a chance against Whitman's billions.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:02 AM
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7. Boxer hasn't really started campaigning yet.
When she does I expect the numbers will change. How is the advertising situation? Does she at least have things on the air?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:04 AM
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9. Right now, it seems like Whitman and Poisner are the only ones running for anything.
I don't see too many Dems in primary fights...at least not here in SoCal.

Once the Rep primaries are over, then it starts.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:07 AM
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11. She's got to know this: IT CAN HAPPEN.
If it happened in Massachusetts, it sure as hell can happen in California.

Still, I expect Boxer paid attention to what happened to Martha Coakley. No one in the Senate should be ignorant of the lesson that election taught us.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:41 PM
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24. Totally different situations
In Massachusetts you had an open seat, where the previous incumbent died, and the replacement candidate ran a weak campaign, and didn't really give people much of a reason to vote for her.

Boxer isn't going anywhere.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:15 AM
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12. with the intensity of 1000 suns
the GOP hates her...

I agree we must retain her I would be willing to help in any way I can.

I was once involved in an argument with a rethug that hated her for grilling a general during a hearing. he simply would not accept that every member of congress outranks generals in this country.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:17 AM
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14. She's a great progressive, but she is not all that popular here
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 11:17 AM by andym
outside of the bay area. Her statewide favorables hover just under 50% and her unfavorables are now approaching 50% as well.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/ca/fav-boxer.php

Hopefully the economy will improve enough to help her.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:00 PM
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16. Whitman won't win.
Gropenhfurher is generally unpopular among the states conservative Republicans because he's conservative on business issues, but moderate to vaguely liberal-ish on a few others (he's pro-Choice, and generally a supporter of environmental legislation). He's managed to win two elections only because his fame has swung a certain percentage of the states Democrats to his side as well.

Over the last few weeks, I've heard a steady drumbeat of local and state right-wing media begin calling Whitman "Schwarzenegger in a skirt", and not in a flattering way. She doesn't have the support of the Republican party's more conservative elements, and she doesn't have the fame to pull Democratic voters in the way Der Shwartz has managed. She may well win the primary, but she will lose in the general.

Personally, I'd be far more worried if Poizner was leading in the polls. Unlike Whitman, he has the conservative support and the political experience to give Brown a real run. Fortunatly, the Republicans newfound love for Palinesque personality politics seems to be eliminating him as a threat.

As for Boxer, I wouldn't worry about it a bit. Fiorina has no chance. This state has seen large sectors of its economy decimated by outsourcing, and she's a HUGE proponent of expanding the H1-B program. After the primaries are over, you can expect the airwaves to be saturated with video footage of her testimony before Congress: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore." Boxer is herself an H1-B supporter, but Fiorina is an outright anti-American outsourcer who is personally responsible for the destruction of hundreds of thousands of American jobs.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:10 PM
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18. I hope you're right, but...

No one thought Scott Brown would get Teddy's seat, either.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:15 PM
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19. Ted died and it wasn't his seat anymore.
Barbara Boxer's alive and kicking. Not the same thing at all.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:08 PM
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17. +1,000,000,000,000!
We HAVE to keep her seat. God help us all if Fiorina takes her seat and Whitman becomes governor. :scared:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:38 PM
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23. I'm am not worried at all about Barbara's chances. She'll be fine.
She's very popular and from here to November is an eternity in politics. Many incumbents are hurting right now in the polls, but I am very confident that that'll change.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:42 PM
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25. Repuke senate candidates are Carly Fiorina, Chuck DeVore and Tom Campbell
Fiorina nearly ran HP into the ground, DeVore is a red-meat conservative, and Campbell is a moderate who got scared out of the governor's race by Whitman's Meg-abuck$.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 03:33 PM
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27. Especially since Feinstein's seat is up for grabs when she retires
The moderate Republican running (Tom Campbell) is very palatable to lots of Californians because he is pro-choice and was on NARAL's approved list back in the 1990s. The state has gotten more fiscally conservative over the years and the chances of a Campbell win are good.

Boxer has been one of the few Dems that is reliable on liberal issues, especially social ones. She needs to be returned to the Senate.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:57 PM
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32. Sen. Boxer stood up for us when Buschco stole Selection #2. Any CA Dem/lib/progressive
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 07:58 PM by omega minimo
who doesn't vote for her is a fool. She is one of the best.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:39 PM
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33. Yep - agree 100%
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:43 PM
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34. I give Meg Whitman a 0% chance of taking over Boxer's seat in the next election
I'm not even sure I'm going to show up to the polls to vote in that election.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:19 PM
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37. That's a good prediction considering that Meg Whitman isn't running for Boxer's seat
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:25 PM
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46. It's Excellent!
Edited on Tue Mar-30-10 10:26 PM by Cha
I've been hearing from Barbara Boxer, Danny Divito, and Rhea Pearlman on donating to the cause for awhile now.

There better not be any weird voting crap going on, either.
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steelmania75 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:57 PM
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49. The GOP has a chance in liberal California? That's not good at all.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:12 PM
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50. Meg Whitman is not running for Boxer's Seat
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:30 PM
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51. Boxer is one of the best pols for liberal Dems (and my Senator)
I will vote for Boxer and Jerry Brown any time they run.

DiFi needs to go and a liberal elected.
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