"There is something profoundly wrong when there is so much distrust of our intelligence community"

[ck4829]

More 'pearls of wisdom' from Joe Lieberman.

Yo Joe, got a question for you.

When the Bush Administration made it's push for war, who created a secret organization, called the Office of Special Plans, to bypass the CIA and find the intelligence that would be favorable to the Bush Administration's point of view regarding Iraq and it's nonexistent weapons of mass destruction?

Here's a hint, it wasn't the mean old Democrats.

[Raven]

1. There's something profoundly wrong alright and he's in the WH and

you're in the Senate, Joe.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Then how does Joe explain that the National Intelligence Estimate

does not support his rosy Iraq views?

[Igel]

5. Because he has the same view of the NIE

as most people have of the Oct. '02 NIE.

There's no reason for one to be wrong if the other is, but it makes appeals to authority a tough sell.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Isn't the NIE the meta-analyses of all the intelligence agencies/sources?

What the NIE got wrong in 2002 is disgraceful (and I wonder how much of it was honestly "wrong" vs. cherry-picked, manipulated, or otherwise engineered), but if Joe wants to point to current intelligence, it's hard to ignore the latest NIE, which refutes what he says about Iraq. Thus, Joe is cherry-picking HIS intelligence.

On edit: My point is that Holy Joe apparently doesn't trust intelligence himself, since his recent babblings on Iraq refute its findings, and is now making conclusions about Iraq and Iran based on--????

[Hubert Flottz]

3. Joe's intelligence seems to be the problem.

The man is an idiot.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Perhaps it's because the "intelligence community" isn't exactly known for veracity.

But, they are champs at sheer mendacity.

[seabeyond]

6. trust is earned. lying eliminates trust. put the ownership where it belongs

bushcos with all their lies create what they have.

[tjwash]

7. I'd hate to be in the intelligence community right now.

Think about it...our intelligence community has to constantly keep looking over their shoulder and can not do their job out of fear that the current administration and their enablers will out them to the world and endanger themselves, and their families lives, if they do not manufacture false intelligence. That's in addition the the stress of being discovered as an operative wherever they happen to be in the world.

And I am talking about the real agents. The ones that are in harms way daily. I'm NOT talking about 2 bit politicians like George Tenet. That SOB is part of the cause, not part of the solution.

[gratuitous]

8. Yes, there is something wrong, Mr. Lieberman

But the fault lies with an intelligence community that has taught the people over and over again that it is not to be trusted. We're just acting on the message they've been so careful to put out there. Hard to understand why Lieberman is upset with us for not trusting an untrustworthy institution.