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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:46 PM
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Smells like desperation...GOP Leadership Pushed Memo Dems Say Is “Hoax”
How old are these people? Apparently not too old to play juvenile games. Asshats all!

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/gop-leadership-pushed-memo-dems-say-is-hoax/

GOP Leadership Pushed Memo Dems Say Is “Hoax”


A controversial health care memo allegedly circulated by Democrats that Dems say is a “hoax” was pushed to some reporters by the GOP leadership before its authenticity was verified or disproven, an email chain sent my way shows.

But it’s unclear as of yet what the source of the memo is or that it’s definitely a hoax.

The memo, first reported by Politico and Big Government and pushed hard by Drudge, allegedly shows the Dem leadership telling rank and file Dems to stay hush-hush about a scheme for a “doc fix” later this year that, in essence, would make the bill’s deficit-reduction meaningless.

After Dems alleged to TPM that the memo is fake, Politico pulled down the story.

The memo, however, was pushed to some reporters by the office of GOP leader John Boehner.
A source forwards an email sent at 12:58 PM by Boehner spokesman Michael Steel to The Daily Caller’s Jon Ward and other reporters, with the original memo attached.

“Folks — Please read the attached draft memo addressed to `Democratic Health and Communications Staff,’ Steel wrote. “It makes it clear that Democrats want to avoid discussing issues related to the CBO score of their latest government takeover legislation because their claims don’t pass the straight face test.”

Asked for comment, Steel would only say: “Will the Democrats do the `doc fix’? If they will, they are low-balling the cost of health care by hundreds of billions of dollars.”

A GOP aide pointed out that the memo “has circulated widely in the lobbying community” and “no one has proven that it is a fake.” It also looks as if the memo was circulated just after it posted on Big Government.

But the GOP leadership did circulate a hard copy of the memo to reporters before its authenticity had been confirmed or disproven.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:51 PM
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1. P.S. Cantor was sure in a big fat hurry to disseminate it!....
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 03:52 PM by babylonsister
http://washingtonindependent.com/79802/gop-leaders-back-away-from-fishy-democratic-memo-on-health-care

GOP Leaders Back Away From Fishy ‘Democratic Memo’ on Health Care
By David Weigel 3/19/10 3:52 PM


Shortly after Politico reported on an “internal Democratic memo” telling members to spin away the looming cost of a “doc fix,” Republicans began pointing reporters to the story. But two hours after the story went up, TPM reported that Democrats were calling the memo a “hoax,” and Politico pulled the story. At a 3:30 press conference called “to highlight the concerns over the Democrats’ budget gimmick to temporarily exclude a $371 billion ‘Doc Fix’ from the health reform bill,” Reps. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) quickly dismissed the memo.

“Look,” said Cantor, “the appropriate question there is, ask the reporter who wrote the article. I know nothing beyond what I read in Politico.” The “real hoax,” he said, was on “the American people.”

Ryan was even quicker on the dismissal. “Who cares who wrote the memo?” he asked.

Here’s the email blast sent to reporters by the office of Rep. Eric Cantor at 1:52 p.m.

Did Ya Get the Memo? Dems Hide $1.3 Trillion Cost

We cannot emphasize this enough: do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative.,” the memo says.

… The inclusion of a full SGR repeal would undermine reform’s budget neutrality. So again, do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative

$1.3 Trillion

EXCLUSIVE — Democrats plan doc fix after reform

Politico: Posted by Chris Frates 12:46 PM

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/

Democrats are planning to introduce legislation later this spring that would permanently repeal annual Medicare cuts to doctors, but are warning lawmakers not to talk about it for fear that it will complicate their push to pass comprehensive health reform. The plans undercut the party’s message that reform lowers the deficit, according to a memo obtained by POLITICO.

Democrats removed the so-called doc fix from the reform legislation last year because its $371-billion price tag would have made it impossible for Democrats to claim that their bill reduces the deficit. Republicans have argued for months that by stripping the doc fix from the bill, Democrats were playing a shell game.

“Most health staff are already aware that our health proposal does not contain a ‘doc fix.’ … The inclusion of a full SGR repeal would undermine reform’s budget neutrality. So again, do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative. Instead, focus only on the deficit reduction and number of Americans covered,” the memo, sent Thursday to Democratic staff, said.

“As most health staff knows, leadership and the White House are working with the AMA to rally physicians for a full SGR repeal later this spring. However, both health and communications staff should understand we do not want that policy discussion discussed at this time, lest (it) complicate the last critical push to pass health reform,” according to the memo.

The memo helps explains why the American Medical Association has supported reform even though their top legislative priority, the doc fix, was left out. The group is working behind the scenes with Democratic leadership and the White House to fix the cuts later this year.

Indeed, in a statement this afternoon, the AMA announced its support for the reconciliation bill — and hinted that the debate is not over with reform’s passage.

“This is not the last step, but the next step toward real health system reform. We will remain actively engaged with Congress and the administration to ensure that before Congress adjourns there are additional important changes to our health system,” AMA president James Rohack said. “Congress must act to preserve access to care for seniors and military families by permanently repealing the Medicare physician payment formula that will cut Medicare payments by 21 percent next month.”

The memo also repeatedly advises Democrats not to discuss the details of the CBO score. “We cannot emphasize this enough: do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative. Instead, focus only on the deficit reduction and number of Americans covered,” the memo says.



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:32 PM
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9. The lie detector test: "Who cares who wrote the memo?"
That would tell the discerning observer all he or she needs to know. Paul Ryan is definitely complicit in this, even if nothing can be proved about what will undoubtedly soon become The Memo That Wrote Itself.

But just like in a close play at the plate in baseball, when there's a wide slide by the runner and a diving tag by the catcher, you can watch for a moment and know in an instant if the runner touched the plate or if the catcher applied the tag. The player who isn't sure will jump up to either touch the plate or apply the tag, making it an easy call for the umpire. Ryan just ran back to touch the plate.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:55 PM
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2. I wish Americans would elect adults into leadership roles... n/t
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:58 PM
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3. Smells like desperation is right.
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 03:58 PM by Liberal In Texas
How do you like them straws your clutching at guys?

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:04 PM
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4. Boehner's office FORGED a document? In a desperate attempt to
fight HCR??????

Can we prosecute them for this, lol? Somebody needs to go to jail, IMHO, if for no other reason than because they are too stupid to breathe. Did they honestly think they wouldn't get caught???
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:28 PM
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10. What the hell, Republicans are used to getting away with outrageous lies.
Like FL 2000, WMD, the Swiftboaters…I'm sure you can come up with a pretty long list of your own. They're always enabled in their lies by the corporate lapdog press.

The surprising thing is when they get caught.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:07 PM
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5. I heard a rumor that several prominent Republicans have unnatural relations with ducks.
Boehner and Steele have so far not released any statements. The rumor may be a hoax and its authenticity has not yet been confirmed, but it has not been disproven.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:30 PM
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8. How about mules, and this isn't even a rumor.
Saw this this a.m. and couldn't believe it!

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/what-it-republican-sex-animals

What is it about having sex with animals that compulsively sticks in right-wingers' heads? It's an obsession with conservatives.

I remember when the freak known as Neal Horsley famously admitted to having sex with farm animals to Alan Colmes a few years ago.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:22 PM
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6. good old Politico
earning their reputation every day. :thumbsup:
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:24 PM
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7. Howard Dean made an interesting comment on Maddow's show last night.
He said something like (paraphrased): If Republicans want to criticize the bill that's fine, but they should do it with truth, not lies.

Naturally he was much more eloquent than me. I wish I had his exact quote.
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