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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:36 PM
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Now the fight really begins!
It looks like the Health Care Reform bill is going to pass. It is time to fight for more reforms. Single payer is still my goal and I'm going to continue to call and write to my Congresscritters until we get it. Don't get complacent keep the pressure up, keep on fighting for true Health Care Reform.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:38 PM
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1. NAFTA,NCLF, closing mental treatment centers,welfare reform n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 08:40 PM by kickysnana
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:39 PM
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2. I am now on a first name basis with most of my Congress folks
I just sent out a few more donations today, sent a few more emails, signed some petitions. I have been doing 'something'almost every day. I do believe in single payer, I want to keep fighting for that, but realize we may have to go in steps, as distasteful as that seems to some.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:40 PM
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3. just like we kept the pressure up for a public option?
we just bought a bridge and will never see meaningful reforms.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:43 PM
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6. Nor will we see a Democratic Congress again for a long time. This one is
useless, and once people get wind of the mandate, they'll be in a punishing mood.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:53 PM
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10. I think we don't need the down talk nine months out.
I think you saying this is premature, and plays into the media propaganda....
cause that's what they are saying.

Let's see what's happening after Financial and Immigration reforms,
closer to November, which is in 9 months! OK?

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:41 PM
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4. Agreed. First some of us are going to have to get over this "kill the bill" craze...
With Dennis having come around, I can appreciate the desperate situation some may find themselves in.

There is nobody left to hide behind, to use to justify the "bill killing" position.

By the time it passes (after 72 hours after it's scored and submitted), I hope we'll stop the argument about whether or not to support it and coordinate efforts to start expanding and refining what this bill only begins to do.

:patriot:
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:49 PM
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7. I'm not a fan of this bill but I know that the only way it can get better
is to stay on our Congress-critters and run those DLC, Blue Dog DINOS out of office and replace them with more progressive Democrats. We can start in Arkansas with Blanche Lincoln. My family down there is supporting her primary opponent.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:51 PM
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9. That's right. I'm with you Chisox08, and we need everyone on board.
:toast:
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:15 PM
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11. Yes! A first step is better than the status quo! Let's just all remember that it is a first step,
and that we will have to continue demanding more. . .until we do get a strong public option added to our "choices" for health care. . .and eventually nationalized health care!
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:22 PM
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12. Not refining it, but replacing it with something that will help people. n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:43 PM
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5. Congress critters fear me!
Fish breathing easy
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:50 PM
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8. Good ...

That is precisely what should be done.

Continuing to agitate is much more productive than running around ranting about how we're all screwed. The latter is in fact what those opposed to progressive reforms count upon, the complacency of the public.

We must not be complacent.

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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:54 PM
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13. Yes. And if you can show the current law isn't working correctly it will give you extra ammo.
I think the opportunity to get a public or single payer option becomes much more feasible once we have a health bill.
The fact that it may not do what it's supposed to works in your favor. It gives you a reason to modify the current bill.

That's why I think it's important to get something going. It's the first step. Without it you have no first step
to build on and it would be unlikely anyone would want to go through this whole thing again.

The biggest difficulty is that all the laws don't take effect for so long so it will be difficult to prove they
won't work properly. Once they are in effect, it becomes much easier.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:01 PM
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14. I think most people just won't pay attention to the regulations, anyhow.
The insurers have tens of thousands of loopholes that make any reform on their part just a shell game. I doubt people are going to want to hold up their end of the bargain and pay fines or buy weak policies once they see how rigged the system is. It's basically a wash. Obama can get his signing party and we can move on. In five years, this will all be meaningless.
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