DU this plz: Grayson- HR 4789 lets anyone buy into Medicare.

[upi402]

"Dear Speaker Pelosi,

If we’re going to vote on bills without a public option, we should also vote on the public option.
Our bill (HR 4789) lets anyone buy into Medicare.
We've had lots of debate. Now it's time to vote.

Regards,

Rep. Alan Grayson "

http://salsa.mydccc.org/o/30019/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=17


Please sign this petition!

[annabanana]

1. got link?

will do

[upi402]

8. second draft shortened

a bit too much! Thanks
:silly:

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. Now we're talking!

And we can fix Medicare later, if needed. lol

[msongs]

3. here's a link that describes the bill....

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/87053-hr-4789-and-the-public-option-the-way-forward-rep-alan-grayson

someone else may have a link to the petition. it is everything the current turkey is not.

Msongs

[NYC_SKP]

5. We think alike. There's a link within the article you linked and one right here.

http://salsa.mydccc.org/o/30019/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=17

:P

[NYC_SKP]

4. If you want to sign the petition, you're gonna need this handy dandy linky thingy:

http://salsa.mydccc.org/o/30019/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=17

should work.

sign it, sign the petition.

do it now.

:patriot:

[monmouth]

6. Proudly Done!

[Political Heretic]

7. Signed. K&R

[izzybeans]

9. Tweeted to my nonexistent followers list, suggest any twitterers do the same

http://twitter.com/izzybeans

[upi402]

11. Good idea

I may be a bit of a twit but I don't tweet.

[izzybeans]

13. ha ha.

I just started. Not sure how long I'll last.

[upi402]

14. privacy concerns

make me hesitate. I barely have the nerve to post here, after all that I've read about privacy issues.

[izzybeans]

16. thats why I went with my du name.

If I were to open an account in my name i wouldn't post it here.

[crikkett]

30. 'privacy issues'

...like DU doesn't get indexed?

[DesertRat]

10. Done! k&r

[laughingliberal]

12. Done and rec'd! nt

[Tx4obama]

15. Grayson's H.R. 4789 now has 74 co-sponsors, here's a link to the list

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:18:./temp/~bdqfuZ:@@@P

[upi402]

17. Here:

Link broken, try this;
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.4789.IH:

111th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 4789

To amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to provide for an option for any citizen or permanent resident of the United States to buy into Medicare.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 9, 2010

Mr. GRAYSON (for himself, Mr. FILNER, Mr. POLIS of Colorado, Ms. PINGREE of Maine, Ms. SHEA-PORTER, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. KUCINICH, Ms. EDWARDS of Maryland, Ms. WATSON, and Ms. JACKSON LEE of Texas) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means

A BILL

To amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to provide for an option for any citizen or permanent resident of the United States to buy into Medicare.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Public Option Act' or the `Medicare You Can Buy Into Act'.

SEC. 2. UNIVERSAL MEDICARE BUY-IN OPTION.

(a) In General- Part A of title XVIII of the Social Security Act is amended--

(1) in section 1818(a), by striking `or 1818A' and inserting `, 1818A, or 1818B'; and

(2) by inserting after section 1818A the following new section:

`UNIVERSAL BUY-IN

`Sec. 1818B.

`(a) In General- (a) Every individual who--

`(1) is a resident of the United States;

`(2) is either (A) a citizen or national of the United States, or (B) an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence; and

`(3) is not otherwise entitled to benefits under this part or eligible to enroll under this part;

shall be eligible to enroll in the insurance program established by this part. An individual may enroll under this section only in such manner and form as may be prescribed in regulations, and only during an enrollment period prescribed in or under this section.

`(b) Enrollment; Coverage- The Secretary shall establish enrollment periods and coverage under this section consistent with the principles for establishment of enrollment periods and coverage for individuals under section 1818, except that no entitlement to benefits under this part shall be effective before the first day of the first calendar year beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act.

`(c) Premiums-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The provisions of subsections (d)(1), (d)(2), and (d)(3) of section 1818 insofar as they apply to premiums (including collection of premiums) shall apply to premiums and collection of premiums under this section, except that--

`(A) paragraphs (4) and (5) of section 1818 shall not be applicable; and

`(B) the estimate of the monthly actuarial rate under section 1818(d) shall be computed and applied under this paragraph based upon costs incurred for individuals within each age cohort specified in paragraph (2) rather than for all individuals age 65 and older.

`(2) AGE COHORTS- The age cohorts specified in this paragraph are as follows:

`(A) Individuals under 19 years of age.

`(B) Individuals at least 19 years of age but not more than 25 years of age.

`(C) Individuals at least 26 years of age and not more than 35 years of age.

`(D) Individuals at least 36 years of age and not more than 45 years of age.

`(E) Individuals at least 46 years of age and not more than 55 years of age.

`(F) Individuals at least 56 years of age and not more than 64 years of age.

`(d) Treatment- An individual enrolled under this part pursuant to this section shall not be treated as enrolled under this part (or any other part of this title) for purposes of obtaining medical assistance for medicare cost-sharing or otherwise under title XIX.'.

[Tx4obama]

18. Your link isn't working either... the website is down or busy, my link does normally work

but you just have to try it later when the site is back up online
it was going on and off line yesterday too.

The link I posted is the LIST of the co-sponsors names:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:18:./temp/~bdqfuZ:@@@P

[Tx4obama]

20. Other option

is to try this link:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d111&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Rep+Grayson++Alan))+01914))

and then go down to H.R. 4789 which is number 18 on the list and then click on CO-SPONSORS :)

[upi402]

25. Michelle Malkin has the internet tube kinked?

:shrug:
I copy-pasted onto the thread. Hope Skinner has antivirus protecting us from the Malkin.

[ihavenobias]

19. K & R, done. n/t

[tritsofme]

21. I don't really see the logic behind this bill.

It is my understanding that it would allow people to pay a completely unsubsidized premium for Medicare coverage. This would be very expensive and resemble a COBRA payment, most people who would benefit would be priced out immediately.

Once HCR is enacted this would make no sense, as you could go to the exchange and purchase a much more affordable subsidized plan if you qualify.

This is not the same as the public option that existed in earlier iterations of the HCR bills.

[upi402]

23. single payer

overhead limitted and in place, cost savings re; profits = competition for the plutocracy

[tritsofme]

27. This bill does not implement a single payer system

It would let people pay a lot of money for Medicare coverage, and no one could really afford it.

[Canuckistanian]

24. But you'd be paying the government - which has no profit motive

If this is done CORRECTLY, no corporate interests wouldn't be involved AT ALL.

Medicare proper isn't run by the private sector, it's GOVERNMENT run.

[upi402]

26. shit, I forgot about that

:evilgrin:

[tritsofme]

28. Ok but who could afford it?

Most people, and 100% of today's uninsured would be unable to pay the cost of an unsubsidized Medicare premium.

[upi402]

22. Here are the co-sponsors, 74!

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR04789:@@@P


Rep Baldwin, Tammy - 3/16/2010
Rep Berkley, Shelley - 3/11/2010
Rep Brown, Corrine - 3/11/2010
Rep Capuano, Michael E. - 3/16/2010
Rep Carson, Andre - 3/16/2010
Rep Chu, Judy - 3/16/2010
Rep Clarke, Yvette D. - 3/16/2010
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 3/16/2010
Rep Cleaver, Emanuel - 3/16/2010
Rep Cohen, Steve - 3/16/2010
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 3/11/2010
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 3/11/2010
Rep Davis, Danny K. - 3/11/2010
Rep DeGette, Diana - 3/16/2010
Rep Doyle, Michael F. - 3/16/2010
Rep Edwards, Donna F. - 3/9/2010
Rep Ellison, Keith - 3/11/2010
Rep Engel, Eliot L. - 3/16/2010
Rep Farr, Sam - 3/16/2010
Rep Filner, Bob - 3/9/2010
Rep Frank, Barney - 3/9/2010
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. - 3/11/2010
Rep Garamendi, John - 3/16/2010
Rep Green, Al - 3/11/2010
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. - 3/11/2010
Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. - 3/11/2010
Rep Hall, John J. - 3/11/2010
Rep Hare, Phil - 3/11/2010
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 3/11/2010
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. - 3/11/2010
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. - 3/16/2010
Rep Holt, Rush D. - 3/11/2010
Rep Honda, Michael M. - 3/16/2010
Rep Israel, Steve - 3/16/2010
Rep Jackson Lee, Sheila - 3/9/2010
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. - 3/11/2010
Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice - 3/11/2010
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. - 3/11/2010
Rep Kaptur, Marcy - 3/11/2010
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. - 3/11/2010
Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. - 3/16/2010
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. - 3/9/2010
Rep Lee, Barbara - 3/11/2010
Rep Lewis, John - 3/11/2010
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. - 3/11/2010
Rep McDermott, Jim - 3/11/2010
Rep McGovern, James P. - 3/11/2010
Rep Meeks, Gregory W. - 3/11/2010
Rep Moran, Jerry - 3/16/2010
Rep Nadler, Jerrold - 3/11/2010
Rep Napolitano, Grace F. - 3/11/2010
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 3/16/2010
Rep Olver, John W. - 3/11/2010
Rep Payne, Donald M. - 3/16/2010
Rep Pierluisi, Pedro R. - 3/11/2010
Rep Pingree, Chellie - 3/9/2010
Rep Polis, Jared - 3/9/2010
Rep Rangel, Charles B. - 3/11/2010
Rep Rush, Bobby L. - 3/16/2010
Rep Sablan, Gregorio - 3/11/2010
Rep Sanchez, Loretta - 3/11/2010
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. - 3/9/2010
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol - 3/9/2010
Rep Speier, Jackie - 3/16/2010
Rep Sutton, Betty - 3/11/2010
Rep Thompson, Bennie G. - 3/16/2010
Rep Tonko, Paul D. - 3/16/2010
Rep Towns, Edolphus - 3/11/2010
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 3/11/2010
Rep Waters, Maxine - 3/11/2010
Rep Watson, Diane E. - 3/9/2010
Rep Weiner, Anthony D. - 3/11/2010
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. - 3/11/2010
Rep Wu, David - 3/11/2010

[Luciferous]

29. Already signed, but K&R!