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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:41 AM
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Sen. Bill Nelson to say 20,000 troops not nearly enough.
In remarks prepared for a speech Tuesday, Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., a member of the Armed Services Committee who recently returned from a trip to the region, said only another 200,000 or 300,000 U.S. troops would make a substantial difference in Iraq.

"Based on everything I saw last month, and based on my conversations with Iraqi officials, our own military leaders and rank-and-file soldiers, I am convinced more troops won't end the sectarian violence," Nelson said.

Nelson also was expected to deliver a sharp rebuke of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Nelson said al-Maliki "either lacks the will, or the nerve, to take on the Shiite militias."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ?SITE=CATOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-01-30-05-47-09

At one level he is siding wih McCain....on another he is saying that it is unwinnable.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:50 AM
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1. My senator
He disgusts me, which is nothing unusual.

Double that figure, Bill, and say it should have been put into Iraq at the start, and you might be onto something. Now is just too goddamn late to start thinking about details you should have considered before you voted for Bush**'s effin' IWR.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:50 AM
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2. "At one level he is siding with McCain....on another he is saying that it is unwinnable."
And at BOTH levels, he's an embarrassment to the Democratic Party on this issue.

We've already lost the war when we DID NOT provide security for the average Iraqi citizen. There are NO do-overs Bill, you moran! :grr:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:54 AM
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4. It will be interesting to see the rest of the speech
He is not going to call for a trippling of the forces. and 2oo, 000 is not going to wnd the ciolence so um is he going to say cut and run?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:52 AM
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3. Nelson is DLC all the way
:grr:

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:02 AM
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5. Siding with McCain how?
I think he's saying the 20,000 troops won't do the job, so the Iraqi leaders need to get tougher about the violence. I don't think he's calling for several hundred thousand troops in Iraq, the country would flip out.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:11 AM
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7. I think it is a rhetorical way of expressing that the pres.'s "surge"
wouldn't work. I agree - he isn't calling for that many troops. I also agree with the poster above - pointing out that this point (which was raised before the invasion) should have been made more forcefully by more people at the time - that at this point even such an increase wouldn't work - but could have worked (by providing security to Iraqis) at the onset.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:15 AM
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8. I agree
He is saying we can not stop the sectarian violense
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:04 AM
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6. Everyone quit getting your panties in a wad...
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 07:09 AM by Gman
Nelson is saying we can't send enough troops to stop the sectarian violence.

QUOTE: "I am convinced more troops won't end the sectarian violence," Nelson said.

Read without thinking about the DLC!
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