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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:55 PM
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Nixon and our political climate
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 09:56 PM by Ardent15
Does Nixon deserve the blame for our current political climate?

Before Nixon, Presidents started with very high approval ratings. Truman with 77 percent, Kennedy with 82 percent...

Yet after Nixon, people were distrustful and suspicious of Presidents. And rightfully so, for Nixon had disgraced not just himself, but the office of the Presidency.

It was Nixon who used the Southern strategy of racial and cultural resentment to such great effect. It was Nixon who pioneered the anti-intellectual streak in American politics-ironic for a President who had a great intellect. It was Nixon who put into practice the belief that "The President is above the law"-a Nixon White House employee, Richard Cheney, would later surpass Nixon in that field with George W. Bush.

And it was Nixon, more than anyone, who used the concept of demonizing his opponents-to great effect.

If Reagan and his successors are responsible for the economic problems of today, Nixon is the person most responsible for the political climate that allowed our politicians to be cynical and narcissistic, rather than rational


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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 09:59 PM
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1. Watergate was just icing on the cake. Vietnam is what killed Americans' trust in their Government.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:07 PM
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4. A combination of Vietnam, Watergate and the media
resulted in a field fertile for the current rotten atmosphere.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:02 PM
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2. Nixon operated in a way the current GOP forgot about
Even if he demonized his political opponents he governed more from the center than from the right.

His admin founded the EPA, and he even tried to get national health care pushed through Congress.

(Which is why he was never revered in the GOP party like Reagan.)

He was still a bastard, but todays GOP could learn some things from his type of Republican.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:06 PM
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3. I'd wager it was the 60s that established the distrust & Watergate that was the last straw...
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:08 PM
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5. 'The 60s?'
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:19 PM
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6. 'The 60s'.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:23 PM
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8. True
During the Sixties LBJ replaced Kennedy's (fictional) Missile Gap with his own (very real) Credibility Gap.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:21 PM
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7. Nixon did not "pioneer" American anti-intellectualism...
...It's been here for a long, long time.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:24 PM
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9. And yet progressives have managed to get elected regardless
Anti-intellectualism is one of the least worrisome problems with American society (if it even counts as a "problem.")
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 10:58 PM
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10. Nixon was certainly Prescott Bush's/GOP battering ram vs democracy . . .
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 11:06 PM by defendandprotect
Nixon was also certainly one of the many co-conspirators re the JFK coup . . .

at least in the sense of an official backer who was present in Dallas -- perhaps some

officials were required to be there? Seems that way. Whether for the "authority" they

lent to the coup -- or whatever other reasons, many were there. "Murder On The Orient Express"?

And when it was his turn to be president, he was certainly involved in keeping the cover up

going.

I think Jim Marrs/High Treason I and II explains best that from the very beginning of the

nation and "equality for all" - "all are created equal" - the elites had their sights on

the wealth and natural resources of the nation, not democracy. But they knew they had time.

Finally, as always happens, the right wing rises on violence -- and stolen elections.

How many assassinations of liberal leadership did we have to see to understand that fascists

were taking over our nation?

FDR's Vice President was Henry Wallace -- a true liberal. However, Harry Truman became

the VP only 3 months before the death of FDR!* Truman, IMO, began to move things to the

right. He certainly was no Henry Wallace!

The 1948 Presidential election
Wallace left his editorship position in 1948 to make an unsuccessful run as a Progressive Party candidate in the 1948 U.S. presidential election. His platform advocated friendly relations with the Soviet Union, an end to the nascent Cold War, an end to segregation, full voting rights for blacks, and universal government health insurance. His campaign was unusual for his time in that it included African American candidates campaigning alongside white candidates in the American South, and that during the campaign he refused to appear before segregated audiences or eat or stay in segregated establishments.


Though, to be fair to Truman, he did end segregation in the military --

And I do find this bit of news astonishing re Wallace . . . !!! How could he have supported Nixon!?

In 1961, President-elect John F. Kennedy invited him to his inauguration ceremony, though he had supported Kennedy's opponent Richard Nixon. A touched Wallace wrote to Kennedy: "At no time in our history have so many tens of millions of people been so completely enthusiastic about an Inaugural Address as about yours.".<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_A._Wallace


Yet after Nixon, people were distrustful and suspicious of Presidents. And rightfully so, for Nixon had disgraced not just himself, but the office of the Presidency.

Afterwards, yes -- but I'd guess we still aren't distrustful and suspicious enough!

And the right wing continues to try to turn Watergate into a big nothing -- but it was very

serious and has effected what's happening in America today. Nixon's Huston Plan was a plan

to stop the 1972 elections, if necessary. It was modeled on "Operation Northwoods."

Nixon was also trying to bribe the Director of the FBI in offering him a SC position.

Nixon had corrupted much of government -- much as W had done. If you ever watch

"All the President's Men" you'll note that the Hal Linden character says clearly that the

cover-up wasn't about Watergate, it was about keeping all the other covert activities covered up.

We certainly never learned what "all" of that was, but undoubtedly part of it would be JFK coup.


It was Nixon who used the Southern strategy of racial and cultural resentment to such great effect. It was Nixon who pioneered the anti-intellectual streak in American politics-ironic for a President who had a great intellect. It was Nixon who put into practice the belief that "The President is above the law"-a Nixon White House employee, Richard Cheney, would later surpass Nixon in that field with George W. Bush.

Undoubtedly, Nixon did everything he could to increase racism -- the Drug War certainly part

of that plan, both as a way to imprison African-Americans and to deny them the vote.

However, we also must keep in mind that the computers began coming in during the late 1960's

so I would question every election back to Humphrey/Nixon! What did Nixon win by? 100,000 votes?

Am I wrong?

The computers -- both the large ones used by MSM which increased their powers from simply

reporting actual vote tallies to PREDICING and CALLING races -- and the electronic voting

computers came in during the mid-and-late-1960's . . . coincidentally, just about the time

America was passing "The Voting Rights Act" -- !!

Was there simply a Southern Strategy? Or was there actually a new way to steal elections?


And it was Nixon, more than anyone, who used the concept of demonizing his opponents-to great effect.

Yes -- and the right wing still demonizes. And that really amazes me because if we can't change

the Supreme Court vote on corporate $$ as free speech, we certainly should be able to at least

make taking corporate money DEVIANT!! Why are we accepting this from our candidates/elected

officials????


Nixon was what he was hired to be . . . an able right wing destroyer . . .

They're all adept at destruction! Also keep in mind that Nixon asked Prescott/GOP for

a slush fund over and above his Congressional salary -- and he got it!!


If Reagan and his successors are responsible for the economic problems of today, Nixon is the person most responsible for the political climate that allowed our politicians to be cynical and narcissistic, rather than rational

Reagan was very responsible for cutting domestic spending and increasing military budget --

David Stockton, I think, talked about the success of that plan!

Nixon was injecting "uncertainty" into the economy. The destruction didn't happen in one term.

Each Repug took their own hammers to it. Many negative changes immediately after killing of JFK.

Also keep in mind that the Democratic Platform that JFK ran on called for NATIONALIZING the

oil industry. JFK was certainly attacking the oil depletion allowance.



*FDR/Wallace administration ended January 20th, 1945 --
FDR died April 12th, 1945
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-10 11:04 PM
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11. I'm comfortable with your tracing the current climate to Nixon,
and for that matter, I'm also comfortable blaming Nixon with or without context.

The man was a gnarly monster.

Hunter Thompson nailed Nixon right from the start. Among many lines of Thompson's on the Nixon era that were terrific is his observation that during the Watergate disclosures, Nixon's men "turned on each other like rats in a slum fire."

Concise narrative with character pathologies thrown in as a bonus.
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