Mormon scholars: Glenn Beck is ignorant on social justice in church

[Enrique]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/christians-urged-to-boycott-glenn-beck/

Last week, the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck called on Christians to leave their churches if they heard any preaching about social or economic justice because, he claimed, those were slogans affiliated with Nazism and Communism.

This week, the Rev. Jim Wallis, a liberal evangelical leader in Washington, D.C., called on Christians to leave Glenn Beck.

“What he has said attacks the very heart of our Christian faith, and Christians should no longer watch his show,” Mr. Wallis, who heads the antipoverty group Sojourners, wrote on his “God’s Politics” blog. “His show should now be in the same category as Howard Stern.”

Mr. Beck, in vilifying churches that promote “social justice,” managed to insult just about every mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, African-American, Hispanic and Asian congregation in the country — not to mention plenty of evangelical ones.

Even Mormon scholars in Mr. Beck’s own church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in interviews that Mr. Beck seemed ignorant of just how central social justice teaching was to Mormonism.

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[hobbit709]

1. Glenn Beck is equally ignorant on everything

ZERO=ZERO.

[madmax]

2. +1

[roguevalley]

3. the mormons take care of people in their church and help them

learn to be self sufficient. Beck is a terrible mormon not to know that.

[JBoy]

7. Beck makes sure he always has a full year's worth of hate on hand.

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[Umbral]

26. He is a terrible Mormon and he's immensely popular in Utah. Makes ya wonder. nt

[Toasterlad]

27. Unless They're Gay.

[el_bryanto]

28. Took 'em a whole day to deal with your last comment

I suppose this one isn't quite as bad.

Bryant

[Toasterlad]

29. The Deleted Posts Were Just As True As This.

[el_bryanto]

30. You can tell they are true by the way each individual word is capitalized

That's the mark of truth.

Bryant

[Toasterlad]

31. No, That's My Style.

Truth is something that can be proved by fact. Did they teach you that other definition at the temple?

[el_bryanto]

32. What other definition are you speaking of?

Bryant

[Toasterlad]

33. The Way You Defined Truth In the Title Of Your Previous Post

Did you forget already? It's just a few lines above.

[el_bryanto]

34. Ah I see you were trying to turn it around, but you confused me by throwing the Temple in there

Good job.

Bryant

[Toasterlad]

35. I'm Sorry To Confuse You.

I'm not used to speaking with mormons.

[el_bryanto]

36. Oh - no worries - you've made that perfectly clear.

But then again why would you? Seeing how dispicable and awful we are.

Bryant

[Toasterlad]

37. Exactly.

[JBoy]

4. Not to look a gift horse in the mouth,

but where was their outrage when Beck was spewing hate that wasn't specifically attacking the interests of the church?

[Enrique]

9. they're not outraged

they're just saying that in their expert opinion, Beck is talking out of his ass.

[damntexdem]

10. Hey, lines finally get crossed that alienate just about everyone.

I'm just glad that the LDS Church is recognizing that Beck has done so re them.

[gratuitous]

5. He's managed to insult everyone

But thank goodness he's still not outside the mainstream of American political thought, so that his pronouncements will continue to be treated with deference and respect, as befits a member of the Village. Now, if he was some Dirty Fucking Hippie who didn't think the invasion of Iraq was going to be as quick, easy and cheap as the Bush administration said it was going to be early in 2003, then he'd have lost all credibility. I mean, it's okay to think that now, but seven years ago it meant you hated the troops and wanted the terrorists to win.

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[tanyev]

8. Mr. Beck seems ignorant of just how central social justice is in the frigging Bible.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. You can count on Wallis to get all huffy when his faith gets

slandered, but he's willing to sit around slandering others, splitting hairs from his book of deeply split hairs, as deeply dishonest about himself in relation to what he foists off as his faith. It short, he also hand picks select verses that apply to others, rejects hundreds that apply to himself, and uses his chosen weapons to prevent his neighbors from holding basic human rights. This is a thing he thinks Christ taught him to do, which is just so funny, because he is as off base as Beck, every bit. They are all the same, offended only on behalf of themselves, while treating others far worse than anyone treats them. Wallis criticizing Beck over theology? It is all made up, self edited, this is removed, that is added.
Don't they have any real work in the world that they could do?

[Supersedeas]

12. and yet CNN and FOX both found him worthy of a national political platform, why?

[Last_Stand]

22. He's a political operative...

that whips up hate in the dumbest right-wingers in the country and gives the left-wing a distraction from what's really going on.

He also serves as a reference point for the right-wing..."Hey, we've got some crazy ideas on the right we want you to believe, but at least they're not as crazy as THIS guy's ideas, look at him!"

[HopeHoops]

13. "Glenn Beck is ignorant" works fine on its own.

No need to qualify it.

[chemenger]

18. Couldn't have put it any better!!!

:spray: :rofl:

[Spazito]

15. The Mormon scholars left out this part in their statement...

"...just how central social justice teaching was..." to denying GLTB their rights.

[ladywnch]

16. no qualifiers needed: Glenn Beck is ignorant (PERIOD). n/t

[chemenger]

17. " ... Mr. Beck seemed ignorant of just how central social justice teaching was to Mormonism."

Well for Chrissakes, and here I am under the impression that Mr. Wallis' statment applied to ALL (and I mean ALL) Repubes.

[fascisthunter]

21. he'd post Christ's where abouts on his show so nutcases could harm him

afterall, that is what FOX does. Create hatred towards individuals who do not share FOX's political point of view. A propaganda syndicate working for the neo-nazis of america.

[Dappleganger]

19. He would call Jesus a communist too, for Matthew 25.

FTA: "Mr. Barlow said that Mr. Beck’s comments were particularly ill-timed because just this year, the church’s highest authority, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, issued a new “Handbook of Instructions” to church leaders in which they revised the church’s “three-fold mission” and added a fourth mission statement: care for the poor."

There's quite a bit of FB activity from my christian friends, they are squirming or beginning to question Beck's statements. Of course I'm posting one article after another by Sojourners which calls out Beck for being so anti-gospel.

People like Beck HATE this part of the bible: "He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God." Micah 6:8

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

20. Interesting....

Conservatives have said for years that governments shouldn't be funding social programs -- that's the role of churches and community groups.

Now Beck is saying that churches (and community groups, like ACORN) are evil, too.

Anybody who does anything to support the poor among us is a Communist/Atheist.

[salguine]

23. Are these the same social-justice-loving Mormons who financed Prop 8 in California?

[ddeclue]

24. Couldn't we just say "Glenn Beck is ignorant"?

That would be a more astute observation.

[Swamp Rat]

25. k&r