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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:51 PM
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Tea party people consider themselves the same as those that wrote the Declaration of Independence
Who are these people?

What do they want?

We hold these truths

At the most recent rally in Wichita, Feb. 20 at Century II, tea party organizer Lynda Tyler told 2,500 enthusiastic listeners from the podium that the last time Americans were as upset about government as they are now, they wrote a document called the Declaration of Independence. That document pointed out that it sometimes becomes necessary "for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another."

http://www.kansas.com/2010/03/05/1210581/movements-local-leader-surprised.html#storylink=omni_popular
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:57 PM
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1. That's easy. Teabaggers are Republicans who lost the last election.
They don't believe in shit beyond the fact that as far as they are concerned,
Pres. Obama shouldn't be President, ever.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:39 AM
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25. BINGO ...
Simply the most lunatic fringe of the republican party expressing its first amendment rights to engage in active sedition ...

IF they had even a small fraction of the "patriotism" they claim (in their distorted view), they would get their guns and actually DO something about it ... As is, they have life FAR too easy, and live off the very thing they are tilting windmills about ...

But, sure, the "liberal" press reports it as "grass roots" and "genuine anger in the country."

Just a bunch of children throwing a fit because their side didn't win ...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:57 PM
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2. which proves they failed american history in school
well if they actually did go to school.....
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:42 AM
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16. Not to mention spelling... ;-) n/t
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 11:59 PM
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3. "bind up the nations wounds"
Lincoln gave his life for this and look where we are now.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:16 AM
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4. One rather big fundamental difference there, people:
Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence, really could write, and was literate.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:29 AM
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6. Wasn't he also a deist?
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 12:31 AM by MUAD_DIB

I'm not sure if the baby Jeebus would approve of their fondness for him.


Maybe they look back to Jefferson's slave-holding days and think that they could be just like him.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:31 AM
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7. He was. Had Jefferson been alive today, the 'baggers would have called him
a hippy pinko.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:20 AM
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5. Never met a 'bagger who actually read the Declaration of Independence
although many quote it. Wrongly.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:29 AM
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18. That is so funny and true
And they are so proud of their quotes.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:37 PM
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38. House Republican leader John Bonehead quoted the Declaration
Of course, he stated to the country while doing it that he was quoting from the Constitution.

Oh, well, it's the thought that counts............
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:36 AM
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8. They are fighting against tyranny
Namely the tyranny of having a democratically elected black president in their lifetime.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:55 AM
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35. that's the key word---black.
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 10:56 AM by ginnyinWI
That's the one thing they can't get over. That someone who to them is only "good enough" to be an athlete or entertainer should actually be our president.

Actual quote from my mom: "...well I know he's only half black, but still, somehow I just can't go along with it and accept it."

At least she admits it. She was born in 1930, in the days when Hollywood portrayed African Americans as singing, dancing, simple-minded "darkies" who loved to eat watermelon and tap-dance with little curly-haired white girls. And she's never known a person of color personally I don't think, in all of her 80 years.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:51 AM
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9. They were the all men are created equal...except black men crowd.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:38 AM
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15. All men, no women.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:27 AM
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17. that too....
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:54 AM
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10. Actually sort of like the KKK in the 60's.
IMO
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 01:11 AM
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11. Except without all that 'brainy-thinky' stuff goin' on in their heads
eh?
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:30 AM
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19. Nothing is going on in their heads. n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 01:39 AM
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12. Delusional--It is best not to compare one's self with History Greats.
Just does not work and makes people not take you seriously.

Delusions of grandeur.
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:09 AM
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13. They are, sort of.
Neither group has had an original thought in over 200 years. And both groups don't want black people and women to vote.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:23 AM
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14. They would've been Loyalists. Not a doubt in my mind.
Right-wingers are extremely subservient to authority-- especially the "strong daddy" authority. A King is the ultimate "strong daddy" authority.

Ever since the early nineties, one of my little hobbies has been turning on right-wing radio the instant that a story of police brutality is reported. Every time-- every single time-- they back the officers before any details are in. I have never once, in all these years, heard a single one of them do anything but back the police.

For the record, it's just as silly when people *condemn* the police before the facts are in-- but right-wingers *never* do this.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:50 AM
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21. There wasn't anything wrong with the Loyalists.
They rejected the anti-tax movement of a group of rich white slave owners. If Americans had opted for the Loyalist path we'd be like Canada now instead of the wild west.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:16 AM
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26. That's an interesting idea.
I have to admit, I've never actually thought about it. It's impossible to know what would've actually played out, of course. If the US had remained a British colony, it might've greatly changed Britain's path as well. They would've have greater resources at times when their Empire needed them.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:31 AM
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29. I absolutely agree with you
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:32 AM
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31. Northerners didn't like British manufacturing monopolies
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 10:34 AM by AllentownJake
And the Yankess started the war.

The South was more hesitant. William Wilberfore had yet ascended into the Parliament.

I'm from PA, we didn't like the idea of the war. Philadelphia was doing very well, and it was thought bad for business, but when your neighbors to the north and south go to war, you kind of have to go along.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:34 AM
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20. fat, old, & white
:shrug:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:02 AM
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22. Well, they certainly are delusional.....nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:10 AM
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23. The writers of the Declaration were educated
I wouldn't bet on the teabaggers.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:28 AM
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27. true
they are pathetic
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:34 AM
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24. When, in the coarse of Hughman events... n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:30 AM
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28. Well, teabaggers would like to own slaves
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:31 AM
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30. Have they tar and feathered any tax collectors yet?
Honestly this mystique we have our founders as a pristine bunch of nicely dressed men in Independence Hall is about as nonsensical as the Tea Baggers.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:34 AM
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32. delusions of grandeur
Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 10:35 AM by fascisthunter
they more represent the loyalists of the KIng.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 02:59 PM
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36. yes they do
so that they don't miss out on their slice of the pie
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:34 AM
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33. No, they would be the people who wouldn't want change or progress
and would help the Brits... fearing retribution in the future. They would also be the one's who didn't know how to read or write and hadn't attended school for long or at all. So writing the D of Ind. would be a huge farse.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 10:47 AM
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34. .........................
We hold these truths to be silf-evidant, that all men are created eqaul, that they are endowwed by their Creater with certain unalenable rights,that amung these are life, librtey and the persuit of happynes.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 03:07 PM
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37. I defy any Teabagger to name 10 of the founding fathers.
It is really easy to name 5, but you really have to know your history to name ten.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:45 PM
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39. They liken themselves to slave owning cancer merchants?
Or is that not what they mean?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 07:54 PM
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40. The leaders of the CSA viewed themselves the same way
They considered themselves the true heirs of the Founding Fathers and saw the Union as having betrayed the original ideas of the Revolution.

I don't know how they reconciled that with their romanticizing of the Cavaliers of the period of the English Civil War. Perhaps the Roundheads represented industrialization and leveling.
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