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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:52 PM
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Lawsuit: Mother taken off life support without permission
http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/MI144727/

A young mother died when, a lawsuit claims, she was taken off life support without her family's permission....

According to the lawsuit, after Caroline was put on life support, the local hospital called the University of Miami organ donor program. An employee of the donor program went to the hospital and tried to meet with the family. "Mr. Francois never spoke with them and never gave consent," said the family's attorney.

But despite that, the lawsuit against the University of Miami claims that same employee, who is not a medical doctor wrote physician's orders in Caroline's chart which read: "Patient pronounced brain dead at 16:16 hours," and, "Please discontinue all treatments including the ventilator."

"We have evidence that he physically entered the room and actually turned off the ventilator," said the lawyer....

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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:10 PM
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1. University of Miami tried to block nurse from the witness list
In court Thursday, University of Miami attorneys tried to get the judge to strike Caroline's nurse from the witness list. That nurse allegedly witnessed who turned off the ventilator. The attorneys say they have not been able to locate that nurse to depose him. The judge has denied that request.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:39 PM
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:43 PM
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3. sometimes they don't
Like when the money runs out.

We already have death panels. They are called Insurance companies.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:45 PM
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:47 PM
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6. Oh I see. You weren't kidding
Do you really believe that insurance companies DON'T deny care due to it's cost, often at the expense of the patients life? You think that concern is an "old horse"?

Sheese (sic) indeed.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:45 PM
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5. Umm, are you kidding?
Seriously, this sounds like a wind-up.

Welcome to DU though.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:00 PM
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8. that guy is causing trouble on various threads.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:18 PM
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10. Not any longer. n/t
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:51 PM
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7. Doctors don't always know best.
Especially if they could give a fuck less about the paitent and within 3 minutes of seeing a paitent were absolutely sure they were going to die.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:31 AM
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11. I'm sorry, but most doctors really DO care about patients
and really do try to do their best. Yes, you have your arrogant dips, as well as your arrogant, incompetent dips, but that's true of every profession. In this case, the woman's doctor was very clear in that he had NOT made any assessments that she was brain dead. He wasn't the one who wrote it in her chart or who pulled the plug, the organ company employee was.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:17 PM
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9. Caroline's doctor hadn't declared her brain dead-organ harvester
pulled the plug.

No one is saying why this employee might have pulled the plug, but Caroline's doctor is very clear. In testimony, her doctor was asked, "Did you yourself at anytime make an assessment that Caroline was brain dead?" The answer: "No."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:36 AM
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12. This is the part of the story that bothers me
In order to harvest many of those organs, they would need to leave her on life support!

There's a very bad smell about this one. The story as written simply doesn't make sense.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 07:56 AM
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13. Good that you pointed that out.
I hope more information comes out about this incident.
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