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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:09 AM
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Holy Shit... Entire Pacific Rim On Alert For Tsunami
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 11:12 AM by WillyT



Link: http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/

Evacuations on Easter Island, and Tsunami Warning Sirens going off in Hawaii according to MSNBC!!!

*******************************************************************************

EVALUATION

A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

1119 AM HST SAT 27 FEB 2010

MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT.

*************************************************************************************

Link: http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/messages/hawaii/2010/hawaii.2010.02.27.144739.txt

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:13 AM
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1. Fixed Link To NOAA Tsunami Center Above...
:kick:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:16 AM
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4. I thought they traveled at ±500mph
Wouldn't they have already hit? :shrug:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:21 AM
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8. Yeah, 500mph is about right. -500mph, I don't think so.
:)
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:30 AM
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13. *smack*
Thanks, I...needed that

:banghead:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:14 AM
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2. The good news is that Robinson Crusoe island was
not devastated although that island was hit with 3 meter waves. Easter island is next.
Stay alert peeps
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:15 AM
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3. I wonder how it will affect people at sea. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:25 AM
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10. My hubby told me that at sea
you might feel a little more... if submerged (US Navy), otherwise in the middle of the ocean it is barely noticeable.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:26 AM
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As long as they are away from the coast they'll be fine
Remember the documentary about the great 1883 eruption of Kracatoa and the captain who took his ship further out to sea.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1203028/Will-Krakatoa-rock-world-Last-time-killed-thousands-changed-weather-years-deadlier.html

--
There was a 7.7ft tsunami on a section of the Chilean coast - that's relatively small but the tsunami's impact should be felt more in the West
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:30 AM
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14. Fascinating link, thanks! nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:35 AM
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17. I love the pics at the link
Kracatoa always fascinated me and baby Kracatoa is just as fascinating.
I bookmarked this last year. :hi:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:41 AM
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18. Same here, but haven't kept up with baby Kracatoa as much.
As a huge history buff I enjoyed reading different people's accounts of what happened and in particular the world-wide weather changes it caused.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:26 AM
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11. A curious thing about tsunami...
is that, out at sea, they're hardly noticeable. They can look like a tiny ripple on the surface of the ocean. A boat floating on the ocean would probably not even notice. It's when they hit the shallower waters that all hell breaks loose.

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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:26 AM
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12. They would hardly even notice it.
If normal waves are like bumps in the road, a tsunami is like the bumpy road going over a hill. You notice yourself rising, then falling, but you'd still mostly feel the smaller bumps.

Tsunamis really only express themselves when they hit land. So, instead of the small bumps hitting the shore, the hill hits the shore.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:11 PM
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23. Not much
Just a little bump if you are in deep water.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:19 AM
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5. Time to go surfing.
Seriously, I hope everyone gets to high ground in time.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:34 AM
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15. Surfers and wave-gawkers can be a huge problem...
here in FL they scramble to the beaches as soon as the winds pick up so they can ride dangerously. Wouldn't surprise me if the Pacific loses some people to tsunamis like that as well.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:20 AM
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6. Entire west coast of N America too. All the way up to Alaska.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:20 AM
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7. YIKES!
:scared:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:34 AM
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16. Wow... They Just Closed The Airport In Hilo...
Airport in Honolulu is staying open for now...

:wow:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:10 PM
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20. Honolulu Int WILL stay open as long as possilbe
it is also Hickam AF Base... so they will keep that open as long as they can to bring emergency gear in as long as they can.

The fleet most be leaving though.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:29 PM
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29. As long as the fleet is in open waters, the tsunami will simply pass underneath the ships.
If you're out in the open ocean, the only clue you might get that a tsunami is passing by is that you will see a swell move toward you and pass underneath, lifting up your ship temporarily.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:25 PM
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36. Why they are scrambling
exactomundo
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:09 PM
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19. Latest: In Wakiki, There Telling People To Stay In Hotels But Go The The 3rd Floor...
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 12:15 PM by WillyT
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/messages/hawaii/2010/hawaii.2010.02.27.165059.txt


***************************************************************************

BULLETIN
TSUNAMI MESSAGE NUMBER 13
NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER EWA BEACH HI
650 AM HST SAT FEB 27 2010

TO - CIVIL DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF HAWAII

SUBJECT - TSUNAMI WARNING SUPPLEMENT

A TSUNAMI WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII.

AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS

ORIGIN TIME - 0834 PM HST 26 FEB 2010
COORDINATES - 36.1 SOUTH 72.6 WEST
LOCATION - NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE
MAGNITUDE - 8.8 MOMENT

MEASUREMENTS OR REPORTS OF TSUNAMI WAVE ACTIVITY

GAUGE LOCATION LAT LON TIME AMPL PER
------------------- ----- ------ ----- --------------- -----
DART MANZANILLO 434 16.0N 107.0W 1611Z 0.07M / 0.2FT 24MIN
ACAPULCO MX 16.8N 99.9W 1549Z 0.16M / 0.5FT 24MIN
RIKITEA PF 23.1S 134.9W 1559Z 0.15M / 0.5FT 22MIN
DART MARQUESAS 5140 8.5S 125.0W 1531Z 0.18M / 0.6FT 18MIN
BALTRA GALAPAGS EC 0.4S 90.3W 1452Z 0.35M / 1.2FT 14MIN
EASTER CL 27.2S 109.5W 1205Z 0.35M / 1.1FT 52MIN
ANCUD CL 41.9S 73.8W 0838Z 0.62M / 2.0FT 84MIN
CALLAO LA-PUNTA PE 12.1S 77.2W 1029Z 0.36M / 1.2FT 30MIN
ARICA CL 18.5S 70.3W 1008Z 0.94M / 3.1FT 42MIN
IQUIQUE CL 20.2S 70.1W 0907Z 0.28M / 0.9FT 68MIN
ANTOFAGASTA CL 23.2S 70.4W 0941Z 0.49M / 1.6FT 52MIN
DART LIMA 32412 18.0S 86.4W 0941Z 0.24M / 0.8FT 36MIN
CALDERA CL 27.1S 70.8W 0843Z 0.45M / 1.5FT 20MIN
TALCAHUANO CL 36.7S 73.4W 0653Z 2.34M / 7.7FT 88MIN
COQUIMBO CL 30.0S 71.3W 0852Z 1.32M / 4.3FT 30MIN
CORRAL CL 39.9S 73.4W 0739Z 0.90M / 2.9FT 16MIN
SAN FELIX CL 26.3S 80.1W 0815Z 0.53M / 1.7FT 08MIN
VALPARAISO CL 33.0S 71.6W 0708Z 1.29M / 4.2FT 20MIN

LAT - LATITUDE (N-NORTH, S-SOUTH)
LON - LONGITUDE (E-EAST, W-WEST)
TIME - TIME OF THE MEASUREMENT (Z IS UTC IS GREENWICH TIME)
AMPL - TSUNAMI AMPLITUDE MEASURED RELATIVE TO NORMAL SEA LEVEL.
IT IS ...NOT... CREST-TO-TROUGH WAVE HEIGHT.
VALUES ARE GIVEN IN BOTH METERS(M) AND FEET(FT).
PER - PERIOD OF TIME IN MINUTES(MIN) FROM ONE WAVE TO THE NEXT.

EVALUATION

A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

1105 AM HST SAT 27 FEB 2010

MESSAGES WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER AS CONDITIONS WARRANT.

******************************************************************************

Link: http://www.prh.noaa.gov/ptwc/?region=2

:grouphug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:12 PM
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24. It is less than a foot in Mexico
readying the Acapulco, Marquesas and other reports.

So hopefully it will have dissipated and will be minor.

Now OB in San Diego will get flooded... between this and the storm surge... it ALWAYS gets flooded.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:15 PM
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26. My ex lives in IB. I just left her a voice mail in case she's not paying attention
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:15 PM
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27. Without smorm surge
that be nothing
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:38 PM
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30. Um...
I certainly hope you are correct, but this concerns me...

<snip>

While everyday wind waves have a wavelength (from crest to crest) of about 100 metres (330 ft) and a height of roughly 2 metres (6.6 ft), a tsunami in the deep ocean has a wavelength of about 200 kilometres (120 mi). Such a wave travels at well over 800 kilometres per hour (500 mph), but due to the enormous wavelength the wave oscillation at any given point takes 20 or 30 minutes to complete a cycle and has an amplitude of only about 1 metre (3.3 ft).<10> This makes tsunamis difficult to detect over deep water. Ships rarely notice their passage.

As the tsunami approaches the coast and the waters become shallow, wave shoaling compresses the wave and its velocity slows below 80 kilometres per hour (50 mph). Its wavelength diminishes to less than 20 kilometres (12 mi) and its amplitude grows enormously, producing a distinctly visible wave. Since the wave still has such a long wavelength, the tsunami may take minutes to reach full height. Except for the very largest tsunamis, the approaching wave does not break (like a surf break), but rather appears like a fast moving tidal bore.<11> Open bays and coastlines adjacent to very deep water may shape the tsunami further into a step-like wave with a steep-breaking front.



When the tsunami's wave peak reaches the shore, the resulting temporary rise in sea level is termed run up. Run up is measured in metres above a reference sea level.<11> A large tsunami may feature multiple waves arriving over a period of hours, with significant time between the wave crests. The first wave to reach the shore may not have the highest run up.<12>



<snip>

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami

IOW - A one foot, or a one meter wave, is not necessarily still one foot, or one meter when it comes on shore. Am I getting this right???

:shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:29 PM
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37. They detected 0.98 meters in Acapulco Mexico
that is inside the Bay... so that might make a difference.

Granted, that is a high wave for the inside the bay.

The US Navy is scrambling in both Hawaii and SD... (and if they are also scrambling Wibley Island they won't tell, SSNs there)

There has to be a reason for that.

Funny, they have sirens installed all along the coast in from LA to SD now, not that most Californians would know what that means.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:11 PM
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21. As far as I see, only the coast of Chile has the RED, or HIGH Severity warning. Every other place,
including Hawaii, has a GREEN, or LOW Severity warning.

That means that the 'damage' to Hawaii's coastline would be no worse than the 15-foot waves that crash on Hawaii's beaches during a normal rainstorm.

Besides, Hawaii is 3000+ miles away from the epicenter of that Chile quake.

By comparison, remember the 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake and Tsunami? That quake was about a 9.1, and the coast of India that was within 500 miles of the epicenter, was hit with 40-foot waves that caused flooding several miles inland. However, the coast of Africa was 3000 miles away, and only got 15-foot waves, and no flooding past the immediate beach area.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:11 PM
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22. oh no
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:13 PM
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25. Life Jackets Issued To All Americans For Some Reason
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 12:19 PM
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28. Thanks mods. That'll teach me not to skip to the meaty bits without
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 12:20 PM by Subdivisions
first checking the date.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 01:36 PM
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31. Latest Advisories And Warnings:
<snip>

HAWAII under TSUNAMI WARNING with EVACUACTIONS in effect

A Tsunami Advisory is in effect which includes the coastal areas of California from the California-Mexico border to the Oregon-California border.

A Tsunami Advisory is in effect which includes the coastal areas of Oregon, Washington, British Columbia and Alaska from the Oregon-California border to Kodiak, Alaska.

<snip>

Plus...

<snip>

A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR

CHILE / PERU / ECUADOR / COLOMBIA / ANTARCTICA / PANAMA /
COSTA RICA / NICARAGUA / PITCAIRN / HONDURAS / EL SALVADOR /
GUATEMALA / FR. POLYNESIA / MEXICO / COOK ISLANDS / KIRIBATI /
KERMADEC IS / NIUE / NEW ZEALAND / TONGA / AMERICAN SAMOA /
SAMOA / JARVIS IS. / WALLIS-FUTUNA / TOKELAU / FIJI /
AUSTRALIA / HAWAII / PALMYRA IS. / TUVALU / VANUATU /
HOWLAND-BAKER / NEW CALEDONIA / JOHNSTON IS. / SOLOMON IS. /
NAURU / MARSHALL IS. / MIDWAY IS. / KOSRAE / PAPUA NEW GUINEA /
POHNPEI / WAKE IS. / CHUUK / RUSSIA / MARCUS IS. / INDONESIA /
N. MARIANAS / GUAM / YAP / BELAU / JAPAN / PHILIPPINES /
CHINESE TAIPEI

<snip>

Link: http://www.examiner.com/x-6116-Portland-Active-Seniors-Travel-Examiner~y2010m2d27-Major-Chili-Earthquakes--Tsunami-Advisory

:scared::wow::scared:
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:05 PM
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32. I am friends with
the T-Shirt Hell guy on Facebook and he just posted that he is in Kauai in a beach front hotel room and was told to evacuate.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:19 PM
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33. If He Keeps Posting, Let Us Know Please !!!
MSNBC said earlier that in Oahu, they are telling people to go to the 3rd floor or higher in the high-rise hotels there.

:shrug:

:hi:
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:28 PM
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40. His last post said
that Civil Defense made him evacuate but that was six hours ago.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:24 PM
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34. The whole east coast of NewZealand
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 02:24 PM by brettdale
Is on Tsunami watch.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:30 PM
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35. WOW !!! - From NOAA Through HuffPo
<snip>

1:55 PM ET -- Info charts from the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center.

This first one shows what the NOAA web site refers to as a "preliminary forecast model energy map."



This second one shows the projected tsunami travel times following this morning's earthquake in Chile.



<snip>

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/27/chile-earthquake-tsunami_n_479393.html

:wow:


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:49 PM
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38. Live stream from Hawaii.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 04:05 PM
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39. Wave up to 13 ft in the Marquesas
Large waves are reported to have struck Chile's Juan Fernandez island group, reaching halfway into one inhabited area. Three people there are missing, local media say. Two aid ships are reported to be on their way.

Part of the Marquesas Islands in French Polynesia were hit by a 4m (13ft) wave, but no casualties were reported, AFP news agency said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8540742.stm
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