I am very upset with members of DU with good cause (mild rant)

[Suji to Seoul]

About two weeks ago, with the mention of the letter by Senate Democrats for Reconciliation, I started a daily (or near daily) HCR Reconciliation Thread with updates and news. I keep a good vote count and scour news sources for updates. I voiced my analysis and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs.

I posted, in one of my HCR threads, that I did not like Obama giving up the public option was close to political suicide, and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs, including being told I was clueless about politics (PhD student, BA in political science, MA in political history) and that my analysis was nothing more than ignorant "monday morning quarterbacking."

I posted that most of the critical and fighting with Obama was based on him being a Democrat, a "liberal" and being black and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs, being told that I was making a non-sequitir argument and race has nothing to do with it.

I posted that I felt the summit on Thursday was pure political gamesmanship in a way to push Republicans into a corner, expose them and then railroad Democratic policies through within the six month of the election (which is the average memory of the average American voter), and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs, being told that I knew nothing about politics.

Then, The Rude Pundit posts everything I said over the past two weeks using language I would never use and does he get torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs? No. . .he get praised for sound, reasoned analysis!

Do I need to use bad language?

edit: fixed a typo. I am a University professor in China and learning Mandarin is beginning to affect my English typing and thinking, because it is the opposite of English and there is no difference between singular and plural except to use numbers.

[Starry Messenger]

1. Dude, it's DU. There is no logic here.

Here's a torch. :D

[Fire1]

45. +1

[hayu_lol]

2. Of course you need to use some bad language...

there are times here at DU when no one makes much sense. Roll with it.

[johnnie]

3. Heh

You said "anal"(ysis)

[leftstreet]

4. 'Do I need to use bad languages'

:beer:

[lame54]

53. there is no bad language

[demwing]

5. Aramaic is pretty bad, try that one, and Farsi is taboo in this political climate.

But never mind that - what kind of car do you drive? OMG your shoes are so last year. And what makes you think you can eat lunch at this table? This is where the cool kids sit.

[WillyT]

6. Man... Do I Feel Your Pain... LOL !!!

And yes... it helps to use bad languages.

Doesn't help the argument, but somehow it's easier to breath after...

Just don't get yourself banned.

We really need thoughtful people around here.

:shrug:

:hi:

[hlthe2b]

7. We've been on an emotional roller coaster....

We DUers, in the best of times can be a cantankerous bunch.... I'm sure you got appreciative comments too for your updates. If you think it is bad having others denounce our obvious credentials in political science, head over to the Health forum, where physicians, and other highly trained researchers, epidemiologists, etc., are bit infrequently told they are "clueless" by those that hold tightly to their misinformation or dogma. The same thing happens to our lawyers and veterinarians, I can assure you.

Hang in there.... Even when I don't agree with someone's every point, I appreciate the thoughtfulness (and civility) they bring to the debate. ;)

[Quantess]

8. hmm....does The Rude Pundit himself ever post OPs at DU?

If he does, I would bet $1 that he gets a lot of unrecs, too.

[lapislzi]

78. He does not.

Uses a proxy. Claims to be above the fray. Right.

[UTUSN]

9. "TORCHED"!1 New, GREAT language around here!1 n/t

[ananda]

10. My torch is lifted for you!

The public option, with no mandate and no tax on
premiums, is SO essential!

[Bozita]

11. Run your text by me before posting. I'll give it the touch of a guy you'd like to have a beer with.

Fuck those assholes.

[Suji to Seoul]

16. Where I live, a bottle of domestic Laoshan beer is $.32

and a bottle of imported American is $2.

Anytime. . .the tourist L-visa is $130 for Americans. 呵呵

[CLANG]

70. Damn! What does the Laoshan beer taste like?

[NoSheep]

67. LOL

[20score]

12. And I'd like to add, if those people were so damned smart and political, how come they didn't

decry the public option last summer when Obama said he was for it? If they were so damned astute they would have seen how unfeasible it was then.

In other words, they’re full of it.

[havocmom]

51. Good point.

:rofl:

How come? Seems possible it could be a case of 'Talking Point Fever'. Their words are authored somewhere outside of them. ;)

[1776Forever]

13. So you really think it was YOU they un-rec'd & no one else? Really? Wrong!

I get un-rec'd all the time and I think it is because there are Freepers in here and just plan trouble makers some time that like to do that. I put a post about how the Repub's had used reconciliation 14 times and the Dem's only 5 and listed what the Repub's had used it for which were all against help for the people and it got un-rec'd! I even asked why any Democrat would un-rec that type of information and got no replies. So don't feel lonely! And as for bad language just be yourself. Sometimes I throw some in just because I felt like it and it added to my passion for the subject.

Here is the link for my post about Repub's Reconciliation count:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7792991

:fistbump:

[peace frog]

42. Exactly. Don't feel too *special*, Suji to Seoul

Teabaggers, Rahmettes and assorted anti-progressives abound here at DU.

Many of us have been un-recc'd. Consider it a badge of honor and carry on! :hi:

[Captain Hilts]

14. People here are more concerned with personalities than policies. nt

[polmaven]

104. Righ....

If the OP had used not only "bad language", but thrown in a little sexism with it, as the rude pundit is prone to do, it is more likely there would not have been an unrec in sight!.

[EFerrari]

15. Thank you for not writing like the Rude Pundit!

:hi:

[pipi_k]

43. And a hearty thanks from me too...

I used to read his stuff and was amused the first few months, until I got really disgusted with his language and realized that it was his entire style. He's not just "rude", he's vile, and he seems to have a strange obsession with animalistic and humiliating sexual portrayals of his "enemies".

In any case, I don't bother with him anymore, and I'm glad that even though there are some here who still do read his trash, nobody here actually writes like he does.

:)

[lapislzi]

79. In defense of the Rude One...

He slots into a particular niche, and he does have a point to make. His profanity is engineered to underscore the utter profanity of political life. He's perfectly capable of using civil language; he chooses not to because the political discourse in this country is nothing short of obscene. He is in the best tradition of Lenny Bruce. He may not be to everyone's taste, but he is authentic.

Yeah, thank me later, Rude.

[EFerrari]

98. I was thinking of writing a spoof, Prude Pundit.

lol

He seems like a fine human bean - I saw him on Laura's show. But his niche is not for all audiences I guess. :)

[havocmom]

17. There are some who will attempt to silence legitimate criticism by denigrating people

While it is annoying and stings if you are a sensitive person, keep in mind, they do it cuz it's all they've got. When you put facts out there, they can't refute, so they just work to make you feel uncomfortable enough that you will shut up, which suits them.

As to the Rude One getting accolades, there is the cult of personality thing going on there when he posts pretty much the same arguments others make here. Lots of really good stuff sink around here. Sometimes it may be because you did such a good job there is nothing for others to add. Sad, but true.

Don't let the 'intimidators' bully you into silence. Some do not work on the merits of their arguments, they just try to shut down real discussion. Not unlike the crap we dealt with for the previous 8 years, sadly.

[annabanana]

38. "Sometimes it may be because you did such a good job there is nothing for others to add."

This is often the reason that perfectly good threads sink.

[Kali]

18. and did you get any + recs or positive feedback?

sometimes perception needs a little perspective, ya know?

my admiration is high for what you are doing academically!

[divvy]

40. DU seems to have "vigilantee squads" that are single issue and IM activated

been there, got flamed too.

[madamesilverspurs]

84. DUcks

Some days nothing we say escapes the flames...



--

[BeFree]

19. Good stuff

Thanks. Edit your journal. Post those OPs there.

Don't let them get you down. They let anybody in here and if they are bad, but fly low enough, they're allowed to hang around.

Sometimes it's like a street brawl in here. Roll with it.
If you are correct and are a good Dem, you will outlive the bastards.

[havocmom]

60. Posting good stuff to one's journal is GREAT advice

Preserves good stuff, makes it easy to find and re-use/refer to later. Plus some of us keep our buddy lists so we can follow good journals of people who are oft under-apperciated in our cult of personality and clique here at DU.

There are some great thinkers here who are not considered 'cool kids' by the herd thinkers. Lots of them don't post much or are seldom on DU anymore. My buddy list helps alert me to their doin's if I don't happen to catch them at the time they post.

I second the recommendation to OP to add things of value to journal. People might be surprised at the following their journals have.

And for those who appreciate what others post when they are not among the 'popular' clique kids, A simple PM letting a fellow DUer know they had a positive impact on you and your thinking/understanding can be a real help to those who wonder if they are just talking to the wind. Let someone know when they have an impact. Thank them. Remind them that their voice was heard. You might be just the encouragement someone needs to stay involved; we all need a bit of positive feedback. And you might strike up a friendship that makes both your lives richer and more positive.

Say "Thank You" DUers. Tell someone they matter. It can set off a chain reaction of positive energy and action.

[Lex]

20. Welcome to the internet. Best not to take anonymous board postings so personally. nt

[Sheepshank]

21. so just to make it clear

some, emotionally never leave kindergarten where potty talk is as titillating as chocolate pudding and will always garners the 'oooohs'. Many confuse titillating with recs.

You forgot all the "oh, grow up" comments throughout this site. It just confirms what I just said :)

[BrklynLiberal]

22. Wow. Cool to be able to get some insights from someone so far away.

Keep posting. Don't let the naysayers get you down.
The "Ignore" button can be your friend.

[ChicagoSuz219]

30. There's an 'ignore' button? Where is it...

...and how does it work?

[havocmom]

52. Up along side a poster's screen name on their posts/replies are some little icons

The one that is a shadow of a person with a little red X on it is the ignore button. If/when particular people continually vex you to the point it becomes useless to read them, just push the button/icon. Another page will open up with options.

Test it out on my post. Put me on ignore. It's not like I ever say anything worthwhile. You won't miss anything ;)

You can un-ignore people by going into 'My DU' and clicking 'Ignore list'. A page will come up with the bozos you decided to make invisible to you. You can take anyone off the list at any time, unless it is a mutual ignore forced by the mods/admin due to feuding which has become a problem for the rest of us here.

Ignore is a very handy tool against high blood pressure :hi:

[BrklynLiberal]

94. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL That is so not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Test it out on my post. Put me on ignore. It's not like I ever say anything worthwhile. You won't miss anything"

[havocmom]

101. OMG!

I haz a fan? :rofl:

[BrklynLiberal]

106. I bet I am not the only one.

[UpInArms]

58. if you look next to any poster's username, you will see

several icons - for sending private mail, finding their profile - then there is a plus/green icon for adding someone to your "buddy" list (so that you can pm (private mail) them easily or a plus/red icon for making them do the virtual "disappear." If you click on that plus/red icon, you can choose how much they disappear.

:hi:

[ChicagoSuz219]

100. Thanks, but...

...still not sure what it's designed to do. If I x someone do I not see their postings when I go to a post? Confused... sleepy... that may have something to do with it.

[havocmom]

102. Yeah, if you are signed in at DU, posts by those on your ignore list will not be shown

When you look at a thread, there will be 'ignored' and no link to replies by those you have on ignore.

If you REALLY get curious as to who is saying what, you can highlight and copy link to the whole thread, then log out of DU, paste the link in your address bar and see the whole thread with all replies. Sometimes it's good to do that as occasionally some bozo you put on ignore will get around to evolving and become worth reading again. If so, you can log in, go to My DU then your ignore list and remove them from the list. Their posts will be available for you to read in threads again.

And after all that, they may well post something that reminds you why you ignored them in the first place. It happens

But NEVER let bullies make you feel so bad you don't dare to post. You have a very good mind and your perspective is enriching here in our little online community. :hi:

[ChicagoSuz219]

107. Thanks, havocmom, for the info...

...and the kudos... :-) Made my day!!

[jotsy]

23. It's a challenging forum.

I know how you feel, well almost. I get entirely ignored for the most part. Some days the venue strikes me as over run with alliances and popularity contests. Other times debate gets over heated and personal and then of course are the folks whose presence here is less than genuine.

I hope Babylon Sister doesn't mind my quoting her when I pass on what she offered this newbie as something of a shield, which I try to remember most when I'm feeling shunned. "You need to have thick skin."

For me, the good outweighs the bad. Entertaining and talented folks share the best of themselves here for the world to see, many of them dedicated specialists on matters of education, economics, political procedure and science. The place can be as informative as any library. The warmth and support shared here is the substance of many a thread. Some of these folks have been here for much longer than you or me, so maybe it's a generational thing.

You sound smart, sensible and strong headed. All good traits for surviving the trenches of tactical threads.

Are you an American living abroad? How is our nation perceived in the eyes of another citizenry?

[Suji to Seoul]

24. I am living abroad.

Here in the PRC, we are looked at in a number of ways:

Socially, Americans are "exotic" and "challenging," fun to look at, have 好帅 (handsome） or 漂亮 (beautiful) features women and men hear wish they had (fine, soft hair that is not black <mine is very light brown with blonde streaks, even at 31 years old>, green eyes like mine) or different features they find exotic (like, as weird as it sounds, a hairy chest).

Academically, Americans are not looked at as too bright, however Jews are given every positive stereotype in the world. This comes from Chairman Mao's attitude that Jews were the Chinese of Europe.

Money-wise, all Americans are wealthy because the exchange rate is 6.82 kuai to 1 American dollar and everything, for American money, is dirt cheap. . .for example. a regular bottle of Coca-Cola is, in American, $.35.

However, women are afraid of American men because they don't want to lose face, parents usually don't approve of their daughters dating a foreigner and they hide behind, or even invent, Chinese traditionals that anyone with exactly one ounce of trained logical thought can tear to pieces. Add to that the idea that it is custom to allow people to weasel out of a lie instead of calling them on it (Americans do not allow people to weasel out of lies unless you're a Republican) and Americans are fun to be with, fun to know and even fun to 做爱 (sex), but outside of the major cities, that's about it unless someone introduces you to someone, as with my current GF.

Chinese men see Americans as face-givers. "I am in the company of an American. Ain't I special?"

In South Korea, they hate us and want us to leave. Most places refuse to allow GIs in, like in Hongdae and Sinchon. . .and most of the American "teachers" are the lowest form of scum on the planet. They view Korea and Koreans as playland and playtoys and Koreans view Americans as unwelcome guests. And all Americans have AIDS.

Many times in Korea I was told, on the Green line subway to "Go Home." Here in the PRC, I am welcomed by everyone.

In Japan, it is a mix between the two, but the Japanese have more American ideals than Koreans and the Chinese. Just don't trust what they say. Their smiles, most of the time, are as fake as their boobs, even men.

As I travel more, I will tell you more. Thailand, Singapore, PI, Malaysia, Indonesia, Nepal, Mongolia, and Viet Nam are on the list. If I can obtain passage or approval, Laos, Cambodia and Brunei are also on the list.

I would like to go to Burma for the historical sites, but HELL NO!!!! Burma's a damned war zone!!!

[Hekate]

34. Share more as you go along, please. As an undergrad I studied Asia, but have never travelled there

I've remained an armchair traveller with a keen interest in the region and its cultures.

Hekate

[annabanana]

39. Oh my yes! Please stick around and do this with

other places you visit.

You will be filling a gap that American media just won't touch.

Maybe you could use the "Journal" feature for posts on this subject.

[havocmom]

Your travels and the perspective that affords you is more reason I want to follow your jounral!

I really would enjoy reading more of what you write.

[Cetacea]

66. +1000

[rockymountaindem]

81. "Jews are given every positive stereotype in the world"

Maybe I should check this place out :)

[fan of the arts]

25. Welcome to the "prosecute war criminals" club, nobody listens to us either

Many people are simple-minded propaganda-responders, they've been conditioned for 100 years now to reflexively respond to media, not ideas. Don't take it personally, just recognize who you're dealing with and how we all got here.

[tabasco]

26. DU has several tens of thousands of members.

You're going to get criticized if you give away free beer.

I think DU has become too large, but that's a different issue.

[Peacetrain]

27. Don't take any of this personally.. I have had a cookie recipe unrec!

I read many many ops, and do not make comments in them, but take in what the person has to say.. good and bad.

We have a collection of unrec police, who have fun, just unrecing anything and everything.. even things they may agree with...

hmmmmm sounds a lot like the republicans doesn't it...

[babylonsister]

37. OK, now that's funny. A cookie recipe?

:rofl:

[hfojvt]

44. well it really wasn't a very good cookie recipe

I mean, who uses a quarter cup of nutmeg? :wtf:

[Peacetrain]

64. Its a great cookie... and what nutmeg?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x136387

[Blue_Tires]

71. pecans?!?!? you deserve to get banned

:P

[Peacetrain]

90. Well now you have me there...PECANS everywhere..

;)

[Chan790]

74. Stoners and prison inmates...

Nutmeg (in fairly substantial quantities) when heated in the presence of alcohol or a lipid releases a mild euphoric drug called myristicin (A mono-oxidase inhibitor. Previously thought to be a hallucinogen, but no longer.) Popular with people within the "drug culture" who cannot use other substances because they're being drug-tested and prison-inmates (because they're drug-tested and most industrial kitchens have a decent supply of spices on-hand making obtaining nutmeg comparatively-easy in contrast to something like marijuana which needs to be smuggled in.)

The nutmeg in your Eggnog...yup, it was originally in the recipe for narcotic effect.

Also, one does not need to heat or treat the nutmeg to release myristicin, it merely "enhances" the effect. Weaker but longer-term results have been observed in subjects who merely added it to water and drank it.

[Peacetrain]

65. There are days that I could say.."oh look, the sun is out"

and it would be hit :rofl: I do get a good laugh out of it..

[grahamhgreen]

28. just ignore them like water off a duck's back...

[struggle4progress]

29. DU is a weird wild mix. We have posters who are genuinely interested in issues, we have posters

who are here only to disrupt or insult, we have adults, we have children, we have careful thinkers, we have crackpots ... Don't take it too personally

[ChicagoSuz219]

31. If I think someone 'doesn't understand politics' ...

...in a million years, it would never occur to me to equate it with whether or not they studied it, in school.

I would be meaning that they didn't understand how politics 'works'... the game playing, the deal making, the behind-the-scenes stuff. The difference between making a deal for someone's constituency (e.g., 'earmarks') or for personal profit, for example (see "Spiro T. Agnew" ;-)

Why some of it is frowned upon, some is considered unethical, or even illegal, some of it is lauded, and some of it is considered 'business as usual'...

Why whoever said, "All Politics are Local," was right on the money... no matter what country you live in.

How different people deal with the same situations. For example, Palin, Bayh and Bunning are/were all lame ducks. Palin quit. Bayh steps up to the plate. And, Bunning says "Tough Sh*t!" with regard to the plight of the unemployed. They not running for re-election, so they've got nothing to lose. That's when you see their true colors. It's just too bad that we don't see them when they're on the way in.

Specifically, my take on the Blair House Summit was different than yours. I felt that the targeted audience were the people watching at home and the Blue Dog Democrats we need to get anything through. It was also a great way to call out the Republicans whenever they were 'misinformed, or misinforming.' It also explained a lot of what was in the Bill, as well as what was not. So, in my view, it was a huge success.

If you haven't already, and can, watch the eight years of "West Wing." Not only is it great television, brilliantly written/acted, it's very insightful as to how Washington politics work. The "Josh" character is based on Rahm Emanuel when he worked in the Clinton WH. Ironically, it ends with Josh becoming Chief of Staff to the new President. Life imitates Art... ;-)

Sorry. Didn't mean to go on & on. I've never unrec'd you. Keep us posted on your travels. Sounds awesome!

[Political Heretic]

32. Just smile quietly to yourself when you are proven right. I know I do.`

:hi:

[gleaner]

33. Don't let it get to you ,,

You are right, and thinking people know it. If anyone tries to torch you for stating the fact that Obama is losing political capital by selling out the public option as he has been doing from the beginning say two words to them. Scott Brown. One result of Obama's refusal to act like a Democrat. He is not a liberal. He is more of an undercover Republican, and who needs that. He has blown it big time.

[pecwae]

35. Yes.

You MUST litter your post with the word 'fuck' in order to be praised for anything. And, yes, that will prevent a lot of unrecs and torching for bashing the president.

Seriously, why care what anyone here thinks? Just continue posting your thoughts and opinions, but don't limit them to DU. There's a world wide web out there and you'll find a place that appreciates your perspective and where popularity contests aren't the rule.

Best of luck and here's a rec for this heartfelt OP.

[yellowwood]

36. My Poem

This kitchen’s getting much too hot.
Will someone please turn down the flame?
We poets are a tender lot.

Although some battles must be fought,
Find other places for the game.
This kitchen’s getting much too hot.

Think twice before you take a shot
At heart, you know, we’re all the same
We poets are a tender lot.

With pain enough some lives are fraught.
To add one more would be a shame.
This kitchen’s getting much too hot.

Remember manners we were taught.
Courtesy and pride reclaim.
We poets are a tender lot.

Let old resentments be forgot.
Add no more words to fuel the flame.
This kitchen’s getting much too hot.
We poets are a tender lot.

[DisgustedInMN]

41. Do you not..

... understand what the name "The Rude Pundit" implies? You really ARE having language difficulties then, aren't you? That's ok, The RP doesn't mean anything personal by it.



:pals:

[MilesColtrane]

46. The internet, and the opinions expressed therein, are not a popularity contest.

If you remember that, you'll be just fine.

[elleng]

47. I agree about what you say you'd posted, and am sorry about rudeness.

I think that what Prez O did was brilliant, one way or another, and felt good about the way things were going (not including single-payer.) There's a lot of misunderstanding that happens here, and one's tone is important. (I'm sure, as you're in China, you understand that!)

'I posted that most of the critical and fighting with Obama was based on him being a Democrat, a "liberal" and being black and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs, being told that I was making a non-sequitir argument and race has nothing to do with it.

I posted that I felt the summit on Thursday was pure political gamesmanship in a way to push Republicans into a corner, expose them and then railroad Democratic policies through within the six month of the election (which is the average memory of the average American voter), and I got torched by some members of DU, including numerous unrecs, being told that I knew nothing about politics.'

Please keep reading and writing.

[AngryAmish]

48. The Internet Is Serious Business

[saltpoint]

49. I hope lawyers will not become involved.

[WCGreen]

50. I am thankful for the opportunity to post my rants and raves...

If something I write gets on the Greatest Page, so be it...

I learned a long time ago that I had to have a thick skin. I have been really involved with politics just as you are. I worked on many campaigns, ran for office myself, ran polling operations and was the treasurer for a large county here in Ohio and served on the board of elections...

That doesn't mean shit because politics.

Write for yourself.

Forget trying to please anyone but yourself.

Oh and BTW, it's really liberating and a great mental exercise when you can stand by your convictions and defend an unpopular thread.

[Uncle Joe]

54. There are myriad levels of emotion, loyalty and motivation here at D.U.

Don't worry about it, just continue to contribute in the most constructive manner suitable to your sincere beliefs and personality, eventually it will work out.

Thanks for the thread, Suji

Peace,
UJ

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

55. Who knows?

Maybe an F bomb here or there would help. :) Seriously though, remember there are over 100k posters here. You are probably getting torched by the 'layabouts'who love the anonymity of the Internet......... :shrug:

[redqueen]

56. It's a busy forum, easy to miss a lot...

I'll be sure to look for your posts from now on, though.

[AngryOldDem]

57. It's your post count.

As soon as you pass that magical "1000" number, you're suddenly a seasoned sage of the political scene. It also helps to have a widely recognized name, too, sort of like Smuckers -- "With a name like Smuckers, it's gotta be good!" DU: "With (insert highly visible screen name here) it's gotta be profound!"

Life on the Internets -- gotta love it.

I feel your frustration, though.

[cornermouse]

59. DU is a shadow of what it used to be.

Look elsewhere for people who think and listen.

[TransitJohn]

61. DU is full of self righteous assholes, I wouldn't take it personally.

:hi:

[Vidar]

62. K&R.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

63. I think you've fallen victim to the Famous Person syndrome.

If they're famous for "stuff we like", with a good dose of ballsy aggression (and I choose the word "ballsy" on purpose), then DU will approve.




Personally, I LOVE the Rude Pundit...I find him very brilliant, equal opportunity disgusting, and hilarious.
I actually haven't come across your HCR threads, sorry to say :blush:

[Suji to Seoul]

68. I love RP. . .but I said the same things he said two weeks earlier and got laughed at

and called ignorant.

RP is my hero!!!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

76. it's ridiculous, isn't it?

Sometimes people just won't see (read) you for who you are (what you say)...only a Celebrity Endorsement will do.....

:shrug:


he's my hero too!! I'd like to kidnap him and expose him to.... my brilliant, yet inappropriate, mind! :evilgrin:

ah yes, see here he is, pining for moi...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=10676034&op=1&o=global&view=global&subj=752516908&id=342223175121

[samsingh]

69. recommend

[upi402]

72. You are too hip for the crowd, that's all

Many here have their heads in the sand... or worse! They are into the D's versus R's chariot race. It's a charade they are either stakeholders in, or are blind to. there is no opposition party to corporatism. They think they are being rational.

They would follow the speed limit and stay in their lane -right off the cliff, instead of the whisky-throttled BushCo ride. Same destination, smoother ride. It lulls us to sleep.

All we have is the other side of the same damn coin.

[Blue_Tires]

73. good points

I don't think I've even seen your threads, but things move off the front VERY fast in GD...Don't take it personal...

and Rude Pundit is one of the DU "All-Stars" with a established rep and name recognition -- Folks like Autorank, DemoTex, SwampRat, Judi Lynn, NanceGreggs, babylonsister, BradBlog, The Magistrate, etc.,

Please post more and keep making positive contributions...

[tpsbmam]

75. Been in your shoes myself so I can relate. It's just kind of like high school

around here -- the popular folks get the recommendations & others often get booed. I just ignore it and chalk it up for what it is.

[chrisa]

87. Yup, and also posts. I notice newbies get treated differently.

There really isn't a pecking order here, unlike what some would want you to believe (i.e. the roving trolls). I just come here to post my feelings on things. I really wouldn't want to be a "well-known" on any message board. I find myself leaving if people get too friendly with me. lol. Don't ask why. I just don't like it.

To OP - I really don't care about recommendations, forum drama, etc. I can't see why anyone would. I work in an office, and I'm really not looking for more drama, if you know what I mean. lol. What anybody on here thinks of you hardly matters. It's just another name on a screen. Don't hold grudges, or feel like you have to "get back" at somebody. In fact, if somebody flames you, don't even respond. Doing so would be a mighty waste of your time. I wouldn't even waste time using the ignore function (but that's my personal opinion). You can always just alert a mod if you think somebody is being disruptive. This is a great place to share information and give opinions, but you have to ignore the random troll that's out there every so often. :-)

[regnaD kciN]

77. I'm now torching you, and giving you an unrec...

After all, I have to live up to your expectations, don't I? :shrug:

[AsahinaKimi]

80. I am impressed you are learning Mandarin...

Thats reading it too? Thats like some 8000 kanji characters ..plus learning how to use tones...seems very difficult. I only know like three or four words of Mandarin. For me, I want to increase my Japanese language skills. Like learning Kanji.. I think the Japanese have less Kanji characters.

[hayu_lol]

91. Asahina, some 8000 characters in Chinese...

is the bottom level of knowledge for a person to be considered 'educated.' Chinese is an almost infinite language. Pin Yin is a method of learning spoken Chinese using an alphabet. Mandarin has 4 tones plus tone shandy...a sort of neutral tone. Cantonese has twice the number of tones--language sounds almost like singing. Easier to learn if the speech tapes are of women...the higher voices are clearer and easier to understand. Men's lower voices tend to sound like the speakers have gravel in their throats.

Fascinating study, both Chinese and Japanese.

Zaijian Zaijian

[Suji to Seoul]

96. To be able to read a newspaper, you need about 1000 characters

Most Chinese people know about 25% of their language. . .that's about 10K - 15K characters.

English, on the other hand, has over a million words. The average American knows 15% - 20% of their language. Educated Americans know, maybe 40% of the language.

The tones are hard. . .but you are right, the pinyin helps.

wo hen xu yao pin yin xian zai.
我很需要拼音现在。

呵呵

拜拜

[AsahinaKimi]

99. Good luck with that..

I will stick with Japanese!!(^__^)" がんばってください!! Ganbatte kudasai!!! "Do your best!"

[Suji to Seoul]

109. I will do my best. &#25105; &#38656; &#35201; &#23398; &#20013; &#25991; &#22312; &#20013; &#22269;...

我的漂亮女朋友家不说英语。 我需要说中文他们。

：）

[swilton]

82. I agree with your analysis of the Obama Reconcilliation

maneuver, Suji to Seoul...I'm sorry I missed your earlier posts - they were insightful and this is how I've called this all along, although I haven't originated analysis as you have...

Whether you have been recognized or acknowledged or not, please know that you're not alone...Sometimes it has nothing to do with content at all- it could be timing as well as logistics...

[swilton]

83. I agree with your analysis of the Obama HC Reconcilliation

maneuver, Suji to Seoul...I'm sorry I missed your earlier posts - they were insightful and this is how I've called this all along, although I haven't originated analysis as you have...

Whether you have been recognized or acknowledged or not, please know that you're not alone...Sometimes it has nothing to do with content at all- it could be timing as well as logistics...

[Writer]

85. About the education thing...

I'm earning a PhD in media studies, and you will not believe the nasty refutations I get when trying to add clarity to perspectives of the relationship between the news media and society.

Look, the issue here is that you're confronting the religiosity of political ideology. Upon reaching the point in which a particular political ideology becomes a part of their identities, most people tend to toss out any information that doesn't comport with that ideology. Information or ideas that conflict with a person's ideology are a much greater threat to that person than you think, because they believe that their own identities, which relate to their own senses of self, are being THREATENED. Therefore the alternative information is not only rejected, but castigated.

I really wouldn't worry too much about this nonsense.

[Posteritatis]

95. Bonus points if people cite the doctoral program as proof that you're wrong or something

Anti-intellectualism's definitely alive on this side of the spectrum as well. Not quite as glorified as it often is on the right, but if someone has a master's degree or doctorate in a subject here there's plenty of people who are more likely to dismiss what you have to say as a result.

It's sad, to say the least.

[omega minimo]

86. Perhaps you made the mistake of reading DU Rules

and believing that they set the tone.

[BlueJac]

88. I am a rocketship scientist in the US.......

still trying to find a good job and get some health care.......can you translate for me?

[Suji to Seoul]

97. If that's try, look overseas. I did and I have never been happier.

You can find work overseas.

[earcandle]

89. Thanks for coming over to our side of town. Ignore the bitches and the bastards and just say what

you really think and feel.  

We will all learn something about each other then!

Thanks for posting! 

Its been brilliant!

[VPStoltz]

92. These are members of no organized political party - They're Democrats.

[emsimon33]

93. Despite the flames, you are correct

Obama's selling out to big pharma and the hospital association on first cost of drugs and then the public option will cost him the election in 2010. It will be the biggest blood bath ever in American elections!

[DailyGrind51]

103. If you want civility, stay away from political discussions!

[donco6]

105. Bad language is absolutely essential.

Just ask Nance Greggs.

[Mike 03]

108. I don't specifically recall your post, but I am thrilled by your post here on this

topic.

Can you forgive those of us who don't understand the intricacies of this?

I just want HCR. I want health care. I want insurance.

Thanks for attempting to clarify the issues at stake here.