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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:24 PM
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My own 16 political types-based on Myers-Brigg and the Political Compass
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 07:44 PM by Ardent15
So, I was thinking about the Political Compass and the Myers-Brigg personality test, and I thought,what would a good combination of the two look like?

If there are 16 general personality types, why can't there be 16 general political philosophies?

So, I created this spectrum.

(edited because upon further thinking, I agree that "Liberal" and "Conservative" are Meaningless.


Socialist 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 Capitalist

Libertarian 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 Authoritarian

Idealist 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 Pragmatist

Nationalist 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 Internationalist

I would rank my self as Socialist, Libertarian, Pragmatist, and Internationalist, or LLPI.

Curious to see what other DU'ers would rank themselves as.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:36 PM
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1. More LLII for me. Bigger question for me is any correlation of MBTI profile with politics
In other words, do extreme right wingers tend more toward a particular MBTI profile.

I am trained to be an MBTI practitioner, and they are always looking for people to take on research projects - I've been tempted to do something like that but haven't had the time (I could imagine it would be fun partnering with pollster like Amy Walters to do some MBTI/political identification studies!)
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:45 PM
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7. I'm guessing that right-left politically tends to map to the Judging-Perceiving axis..
On the MBTI..

I have trouble imagining strong perceivers as being social conservatives..
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:49 PM
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8. I also wonder if T vs F pops out - the whole empathy thing, perhaps authoritative too
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:51 PM
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11. I'm a TP and I'm pretty sure the P overwhelms the T part..
At least when it comes to my political orientation.

It really is a fascinating area for study I think though, contrast the MBTI with the Political Compass.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:49 PM
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10. I had looked into that before and came across this
You might be interested in checking it out:

Psychological Type and U. S. Political Party Affiliation
Do your psychological type preferences relate to your political party affiliation? Your political ideology? This article suggests that psychological type preferences indeed do influence both of these political orientations.

~snip~

One of the first things you might have noticed is that the distribution for party affiliation is fairly equal for many of the types, particularly for the ENFPs and ENFJs. In comparison to this pattern for the ENFs, however, the INFJ pattern shows a clear inclination for this type to report an affiliation for Democrat (49%) and away from Republican (22%). The mirror to this pattern can be seen in the responses of the ESTJs, who show a fairly clear preference for Republican (46%), although a respectable 32% of ESTJs indicate an affiliation with Democrats. Just as interesting, however, is the comparison of the INTs with the INFs in terms of Democratic vs Republican affiliation. So, one question that arises is "why do INFs differ from these Thinking types in terms of Democratic vs. Republican affiliation?" We'll present one possible answer below.

Another interesting pattern concerns the NTPs: ENTP and INTP. These two types appear inclined to declare a stronger affiliation with Independent than do most other types (49% and 45%, respectively). These results are mirrored by the results for the SJs and particularly the STJs. As can be seen, the STJs (ISTJ and ESTJ) report the lowest levels of affiliation with the Independent label (28% and 22%, respectively). Thus, another question that arises is "why do STJs differ from NTPs in party affiliation?".

Finally, at look at the four corners of the type table (the "hard edges") shows the TJs clearly affiliate with the Republican Party more so than most of the other types. As can be seen, at least 40% of each of the four TJ types (ESTJ, ENTJ, ISTJ, INTJ) indicate a Republican affiliation. Our third question thus is "why do TJs tend to affiliate with Republican?".
http://www.politicaltypes.com/content/view/24/56/

And:

On the same topic, but with a focus on values, you might find the video from TED Talks of interest. Psychologist Jonathan Haidt studies the five moral values that form the basis of our political choices, whether we're left, right or center. In this eye-opening talk, he pinpoints the moral values that liberals and conservatives tend to honor most.

http://www.assessmentstoday.com/2008/11/mbti-and-political-leanings---democrats-and-republicans-each-have-their-types.html
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:00 PM
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12. Pretty cool. ENFP here, and as left/progressive as you can get, I suspect!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:37 PM
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2. The axis that I think is missing is
Socialist----Capitalist

I think one's economic philosophies are as important as anything else. :shrug:
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:38 PM
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3. Well, those are really tied into Liberal and Comnservative, are they not?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:44 PM
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6. No. They have nothing to do with socialist and capitalist.
Almost all liberals in the US are capitalists. Not all social conservatives are capitalists. You can be for worker's control of the economy and be a homophobe and a sexist. You won't be able to organize very well, but there are people who hold those ideas simultaneously.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:42 PM
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Liberal and Conservative are US terms. Liberalism in many countries means "free market"
Socialist/Capitalist.

I'd be a

SLPI
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:42 PM
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4. I Think I Would be The Same as You
LLPI
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:44 PM
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5. LLII here.
Interesting exercise!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:32 PM
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9. "Authoritarian" and "Idealist" are almost universally negatively connoted.
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 08:33 PM by JackRiddler
Just pointing out. Far more so than "socialist," which is fine all around the world and has been picking up ground in the US lately.

I have a lot of positions I've heard people call "idealist" that I consider eminently pragmatic, such as that peace and prosperity will come when the world's powers unite to end the arms trade and reduce their armies to border patrols. Or that the war on drugs will be won by ending it.

In practice, people call themselves "pragmatist" as a way of justifying their support for a status quo.

And almost no one's going to say they're authoritarian, even if they are.

"Libertarian" also comes with negative connotations for many people who actually do have libertarian positions (a common phenomenon at DU).

The opposite of nationalist is not internationalist. Like idealist/pragmatist, this one depends on the definitions applied. You can even be both. "The internationalists of the 1960s supported nationalist liberation movements around the world." Today Chavez and Morales are nationalists and internationalists.

Socialist/Capitalist revolves around who should own capital and manage production, so it's by comparison a more concrete pair. (Many supporters of capitalism prefer to call it the free market, but that's another whitewash term.)
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