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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:07 AM
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Laptop camera snapped away in one classroom (2008 webcast by network tech)
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 04:11 AM by maddezmom
Laptop camera snapped away in one classroom
By Dan Hardy, Derrick Nunnally, and John Shiffman

Inquirer Staff Writers

A laptop security program at Lower Merion schools was, when triggered, set up to snap multiple photos of whoever was using the computer, a district computer employee said in a 2008 webcast.

As an example, network technician Mike Perbix said, the system snapped as many as 20 photos of a teacher and some students without their knowledge while they were in a high school classroom during regular classes.

It would keep recording photos from the webcam and screen shots of whatever the computer user was doing until it was turned off, he said.

"It's a fantastic feature," Perbix said, chuckling at times as he talked about the theft-tracking feature in the software. "I can't speak highly enough of it."

more:http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20100222_Laptop_camera_snapped_away_in_one_classroom.html

link to webcast found by googling
http://bdyoutube.com/video/hHu92imqJec/Mike-Perbix-talks-about-spying-with-laptop-remote-admin-software.html
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vegiegals Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:40 AM
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1. "Webcamgate.".
..........Other new details are surfacing about the controversy that students are already calling "Webcamgate."..........
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:55 AM
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2. The webcast is worth seeing, both to understand the system & to demonstrate how easy it is to affect
readers' perceptions of situations with wording: listen & see if you think this:

"It's a fantastic feature," Perbix said, chuckling at times as he talked about the theft-tracking feature in the software. "I can't speak highly enough of it."

is an accurate representation of the speaker's tone during the presentation.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:57 AM
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3. You've got to hope the network tech isn't a pedophile.
If it's snapping photos in kids' bedrooms, it likely captured naked minors.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:00 AM
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4. That's prima facie proof that feature was not used ONLY for tracking
the "lost or stolen" laptops.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:36 PM
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9. how's that?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:02 PM
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10. None so blind as will not see
Monitoring a class without their knowledge is NOT tracking a lost or stolen machine.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:12 PM
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11. Kinda obvious, eh?...nt
Sid
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:14 AM
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14. The class wasn't being monitored. Try actually reading the article.
"Once, he said laptops he thought were stolen were just misplaced - in a classroom.

'And by the time we found out they were back, I had to turn the tracking off, and I had a good 20 snapshots of the teacher and students using the machines in the classroom.'"


Yes, none so blind.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:08 AM
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13. So, what are we betting that someone involved has some pretty
illegal results from the "accidental" enabling of the program without student, parent or administration knowledge?

:eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:52 AM
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5. interesting blog post about LANRev
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:37 AM
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8. I was surfing around tiny-print/support corners of the LanRev site earlier
The company was purchased by Absolute Software recently:

http://www.lanrev.com/

I'm wondering how much control the end-user (The school IT department) really has over this software?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:04 AM
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12. Software maker blasts 'vigilantism' in Pa. school spying case
Software maker blasts 'vigilantism' in Pa. school spying case
Absolute Software will update its LANRev to disable camera feature
By Gregg Keizer
February 22, 2010 04:06 PM ET

The company selling the software used by a Pennsylvania school district to allegedly spy on its students blasted what it called laptop theft-recovery "vigilantism" today.

Absolute Software said it dissuades users of theft-recovery software from acting on their own. "We discourage any customer from taking theft recovery into their own hands," said Stephen Midgley, the company's head of marketing, in an interview Monday. "That's best left in the hands of professionals."

Midgley confirmed that Lower Merion School District of Ardmore, Pa. was running Absolute Manage, formerly known as LANRev, which Absolute Software acquired last December. The suburban Philadelphia school district purchased and deployed LANRev prior to Absolute's acquisition, he said, noting that most school districts buy the software for power management features that let IT staff remotely power down systems.

Calling LANRev a "legacy" product, Midgley also said that Absolute would ship an update in the next several weeks that will permanently disable Theft Track, the name of the feature that lets administrators switch on a laptop's camera to take photographs of a potential thief after the computer is reported stolen. "It really doesn't serve any purpose," said Midgley of Theft Track.

more:http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160278/Software_maker_blasts_vigilantism_in_Pa._school_spying_case?taxonomyId=12
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:08 AM
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17. This deserves its own OP, in my opinion.
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 07:12 AM by woo me with science
It's a fascinating and disturbing read.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:56 AM
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6. Maddezmom, please see DU threads by PCIntern. His daughter was in possession of one of those laptops
last year.

This violation of privacy disgusts me.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:07 AM
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7. I really hope someone like the DA or FBI have started to collect hard drives
from both the students and the tech department after reading the blog I just posted above.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 03:21 AM
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15. Well that will put an end to nude FReeping

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 04:04 AM
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16. Recommend!
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 04:05 AM by TexasObserver
But just barely. By three minutes.

I hate that damn 24 hours limit on recommending. What if I don't look at this board for 24 hours?
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