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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:01 PM
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Newsweek - "Iceberg Ahead" - Attacks Climate Change Scientists - Corporate Media at Work
The corporate media is hard at work spinning against progressive causes. The most obvious example is the media's ongoing attack on the Federal Government while giving Wall Street a free pass. Thus, attempts to regulate Wall Street are spun as a government take over, and regulation is blamed for the economic melt down.

In the area of climate change, the media has been in full attack blaming climate change scientists who have been under constant assault by the energy industry for doubts regarding the reality of climate change. This article in Newsweek is emblematic of these attack pieces that ignore the well paid efforts to discredit climate change:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233887



Iceberg Ahead
Climate scientists who play fast and loose with the facts are imperiling not just their profession but the planet


One of the most impressive visuals in Al Gore's now famous slide show on global warming is a graph known as the "hockey stick." It shows temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rising slowly for most of the last thousand years and turning steeply upward in the last half of the 20th century. As evidence of the alarming rate of global warming, it tells a simple and compelling story. That's one reason the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change included a similar graph in the summary of its 2001 report. But is it true?

The question occurred to Steven McIntyre when he opened his newspaper one morning in 2002 and there it was—the hockey stick. It was published with an article on the debate over whether Canada should ratify the Kyoto agreement to curb greenhouse-gas emissions. McIntyre had little knowledge of the intricate science of climate change; he didn't even have a Ph.D. He did have a passion for numbers, however. He also had some experience in the minerals business, where, he says, people tend to use hockey-stick graphs when they are trying to pull one over on you. "Reality usually isn't so tidy."

As every climate scientist must know by now, McIntyre's skepticism of the hockey stick launched him on a midlife career change: he has become the granddaddy of the global warming "denial" movement. McIntyre asserted that the data of Michael Mann, head of Penn State's Earth System Science Center, did not support his conclusions, and that a true graph of temperatures would suggest a cyclical cause of recent warming. Following in his footsteps, a cottage industry of amateur climatologists have dug into the climate literature, tried to poke holes in the arguments, and demanded supporting data from scientists, sometimes under the auspices of Freedom of Information Act requests.

The scientists have resisted these efforts just as fiercely. For the past six years the conflict has played out in blogs, in the halls of Congress, and in deliberations of the IPCC. It came to a crescendo with the theft of private e-mails from the University of East Anglia in England in November, which raised questions about the scientific objectivity of several prominent researchers, including Phil Jones, who resigned in December as head of the Climatic Research Unit.

The battle between "alarmists" and "deniers" has taken a huge toll, not just on the reputations of Jones and the other "climategate" scientists. It has also damaged the credibility of climate science itself, and threatened more than a decade of diplomatic efforts to engineer a global reduction in greenhouse-gas emissions. The effort, which has kept a forward momentum since the Kyoto meeting in 1997, came to a cold stop in Copenhagen in December. The conference was originally intended to bring the U.S. and China into a global agreement, but produced nothing of substance. Indeed, the climate project bears a striking resemblance to health-care reform in the United States—stalled by a combination of political resistance and hubris.


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:02 PM
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1. Screw republicon-owned corporate media infotrash
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 08:03 PM by SpiralHawk
Propaganda pimps

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:02 PM
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2. It snowed!
A bunch! I saw it on t.v. Game over, man. Game over!
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imnKOgnito Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:12 PM
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3. And spring is quite lovely this year in the northwest.
Wait... You mean it's not yet spring? They must have lost that headline in all that snow.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:25 PM
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5. My cherry tree thinks it's spring with budding blossoms.
And the rose bush is growing new stems. And the irises are coming up. Somebody had better tell these plants that it's not Spring yet.
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imnKOgnito Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:38 PM
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6. Indeed
I just mowed my lawn for the first time this year. That's about two months ahead of schedule. And my damned bicyle thinks I should be in a lot better shape now than my lungs do.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:17 PM
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19. There were cherries blooming near Broadway in November, December, and January, too!
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:51 PM
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16. game especially over for disappearing Greenland!
It just keeps shrinking!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:17 PM
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4. Control of the Oil Market is the centerpiece of American Empire...
So you can imagine that any data suggesting that the world should move away from oil will be heavily attacked.
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Snow Bird Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:38 PM
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7. Anyone wonder where Al Gore has been lately?
When the "swiftboaters" went after Senator John Kerry in 2004 many people were of the opinion that he didn't push back hard and soon enough. Except for a twitter about Exxon Mr. Gore has been strangely absent from the recent goings on.

I would think that having made Climate Change his life's work he would be more visible.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:34 PM
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14. Interestingly, I learned something from the
post. He made a claim; it was too obviously falsifiable to be ignorable. So I decided to not ignore it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/21/sea-level-geoscience-retract-siddall

Again, not claiming the sea level will rise is different from claiming the sea level will not rise. (Gotta love how scope of negation works.)

That's the problem with causes. It makes the entire debate about being right or wrong, with us or against us. Then it's not about the contents of the debate.

Some climatologists have pointed out that even within the discipline itself that's how it went so they should dial back a bit on the advocacy.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:57 PM
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12. Climate Denial Crock of the week....
Climate Crock Sacks Hack Attack Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY

Climate Crock Sacks Hack Attack - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJFZ88EH6i4
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:48 PM
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15. Mind posting some links to back up your claims?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:18 PM
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:35 PM
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22. You are right - the claim that there has been no warming since 1995 is a false claim
Did you read the link you posted? Jones clearly explained that the observed warming since 1995 (get that? observed. warming.) is not statistically significant, which is not surprising when you extract a small segment from a noisy time series. He did not say that there was no warming.

You do raise an interesting point - it has seemed to me that much of the ill-informed, knee-jerk, global warming denialism arises from a dislike of "the enviro movement." It sickens me that people allow their dislike of environmental activists to manifest as a dishonest, anti-intellectual attack on science itself, and that such thinking is used in such a damaging way by self-serving RW politicians...
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:45 AM
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23. Who's destroying who? I see anti-science folks like yourself screaming
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 01:15 AM by neverforget
about how it's all a lie all over Fox, the newspapers and the internet. Who stands to gain by undermining the scientists? The fossil fuel industry and those politicians who are owned by them. Frankly, I listen to the scientists and not some stupid politician(s) who have an agenda of their own.

And from your own link:
E - How confident are you that warming has taken place and that humans are mainly responsible?

I'm 100% confident that the climate has warmed. As to the second question, I would go along with IPCC Chapter 9 - there's evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity.


Maybe you want to find some links that back yourself up because that certainly doesn't. You made specific claims. Back them up with science.

On a side note, I find it fascinating how scientists are now called liars and all that by people who have no background in science. A few years ago, astronomers discovered an asteroid that had a chance of hitting the Earth which they called Apophis. After more data was compiled, it was found that it wasn't going to hit us when it swings by in 2029 or 2036. I'm sure if this asteroid was going to hit us, we'd be all over the scientists to save our ass. But not climate change.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:20 AM
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26. Whoa, Right Is The New Left! The Sierra Club Is Pro-Corporate? The U.S. Chamber Is Grassroots?
Amazing! Up is down, as the Sierra Club pushes a pro-corporate agenda while "he enviro movement was co-opted by money interests who paid activists to make it into a religion."

Who knew those members of the American Petroleum Institute and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce were looking out for the little guy?

Up is down. Corporations are for the people, and environmentalists are just looking to make a buck. What has this world come to?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:58 AM
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24. I think you're on the wrong board.
The stupid board is to the right.

And quit lying. The glaciers ARE melting, the sea IS rising.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/disappearing-world-global-warming-claims-tropical-island-429764.html

Read that (if you know how). And STFU about things you know nothing about.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:40 PM
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8. Jocks on 1070 AM news radio in L.A. viciously and regularly deride climate change advocacy. You
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 08:59 PM by zonkers
tune in for a traffic report and boom -- the bureau of misinfo fills your receptive early morning brain with lies that muddle the truths. It s so obvious these orders come from the top.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:32 PM
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13. This Newsweek article seems pretty balanced..
..what is the problem with this article?

All it does is say that climate scientists should be more open with their data, avoid falling into the "bunker" mentality, and share data with scientific skeptics and amateur blogger types.

So how is this an example of the corporate media spinning against progressive causes? And how did climate change become a "progressive cause" anyway? Climate change research/science should be about nothing but facts and be entirely non partisan. The science behind climate change could very well lead to a multi trillion dollar shift in how the world arranges its economies, it shouldn't have anything to do with politics at the scientific level. All climatologists should be telling us is if AGW is real, how significant is it, and how much does the data indicate we must we do to adapt, contain or roll it back. It should not be a left or right issue at all.

This Newsweek article doesn't question AGW, and it seems to be pretty balanced overall.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:12 AM
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25. Balance? Its gives deniers like Senator Inhofe A Free Pass!
It attacks climate scientists for having a bunker mentality, yet it says nothing about what may the root of this mentality, the ongoing assault on their research by deniers and their corporate cronies. Honest debate is stifled as oil companies exploit and exagerate any disparity in the data. In sharp contrast, climate deniers are not exposed to such scrutiny.

Fair and balanced? Please.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:03 PM
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17. Hidden agenda
McIntyre was also exposed for having unreported ties to CGX Energy, Inc., an oil and gas exploration company, which listed McIntyre as a "strategic advisor." <4> He is the former President of Dumont Nickel Inc., and was President of Northwest Exploration Company Limited, the predecessor company to CGX Energy Inc. As of 2003, he was the strategic advisor of CGX Energy Inc. He has also been a policy analyst at both the governments of Ontario and of Canada. <5>
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:20 PM
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21. Why don we get them Polar Bears to tell us their side of the story
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