Are you a constructive member of society?

[AngryAmish]

Do you break the law?

Do you give more than you take?

Do people depend on you?

If you think you are, then by what metric do you judge yourself to be constructive?

[Oregone]

1. No.

And Im fine with that. I got a lot on my plate and I don't cause anyone any harm.

[Name removed]

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[galileoreloaded]

3. In order. No. Sometimes. Yes. Yes. I don't need to judge anyone or anything, I am surviving.n/t

[JVS]

4. Is society a constructive entity?

[MineralMan]

5. Why do you ask? Do you have a proposal for those you think

are not constructive members of society?

I don't break the law.

I take very little, so I don't have to give much. I am involved in helping businesses create effective websites. I volunteer in several areas. I am active politically at the local level. I help keep my mother-in-law out of assisted living.

I prefer to be around people who are not dependent. My wife and I are in a partnership. There are no dependency issues.

So, yes, I think I'm a constructive member of society. Your opinion may differ.

How about you coming up with your list of what makes for a constructive member of society? How about answering your own questions?

[MineralMan]

6. Answer your own questions before asking others to answer, OK?

[agent46]

7. Everyone says I'm wonderful

So I must be.

:smoke:

[asdjrocky]

8. Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

[frebrd]

9. Who the hell wants to know?

[MineralMan]

11. Hard to say. I want the OP to answer hisher own questions.

How much is that to ask? The OP appears to have disappeared, though.

[AngryAmish]

19. Sorry. Had to rock the baby back to sleep.

Do I think I am a productive member of society? Yes. However I think almost everyone will say the same thing.

[MineralMan]

22. OK, then. What was your reason for posting these questions?

What are you trying to learn? Sorry, but it smacks of something a little ugly to me.

[AngryAmish]

26. The vast majority of people think they are above average vehicle drivers

By definition that cannot be so. Half of the people drive their cars worse than average - myself included. I'm not a good driver.

There are various reasons for this, primarily the reasons our brains are made and how our consciousness functions.

Anyway, there are lots of people out there who, on balance, do not contribute to the wellbeing of our society. Some people can't help it - the elderly, the blind, the quadriplegics, etc. Other can but won't contribute. It is the tax frauds, the layabouts, people who get drunk every weekend and have to police called to their houses, and the ilk. I am interested in how they justify their ways. This is one such means to discover answers to that question.

[MineralMan]

28. You have still not answered your own questions. That is

dishonest of you. If you are not willing to answer the questions you posed to others, then please don't ask. I'm serious about this.

You seem to be judging who is and is not a contributing member of society, yet you are unwilling to address your own questions. Why is that? And baking cookies isn't an answer. It is an excuse.

[AngryAmish]

31. kay

Are you a constructive member of society? Yes.

Do you break the law? Some I respect more than others. I speed a lot. I make a lot of illegal U turns.

Do you give more than you take? I pay lots in taxes. I don't require a lot of public services. I won't send my kid to public schools, for example. I provide a service for people in my job that they appreciate.

Do people depend on you? Many.

If you think you are, then by what metric do you judge yourself to be constructive? Not causing a bother while providing or my family and my employees and their families.

[MineralMan]

34. Thank you.

[AngryAmish]

37. Your turn.

[MineralMan]

40. Look above. I answered your question in my first reply. I will

not repeat myself. See #5. It appears that you have not even bothered to read the replies to your own thread. How rude of you not even to read the replies.

[MilesColtrane]

36. You think the elderly, blind, and disabled can't contribute to the well being of society?

Just because they aren't working construction, or something?

[AngryAmish]

38. No.

[MilesColtrane]

44. Then why did you write that?

Post 26

there are lots of people out there who, on balance, do not contribute to the wellbeing of our society. Some people can't help it - the elderly, the blind, the quadriplegics, etc

Ever hear of Stephen Hawking, Stevie Wonder, "Mother" Jones?

[MineralMan]

47. Who knows? We don't even know why he wrote the OP.

Maybe he though he was in The Lounge, where none of that matters.

[blueworld]

52. You mean the elderly like Einstein or the blind like Stevie Wonder or

the quadriplegics like Hawking? Good grief.

[hfojvt]

32. the death panels, of course

sheesh doncha read all of the newspapers? :)

[upi402]

10. Yes to all. BUT! Do I consent to be govrned....

that's a better question.

[krabigirl]

12. No, in this messed-up version of society, I don't think I am (am a SAHM, basically "useless")

[seabeyond]

13. yes to all above. nt

[Coyote_Bandit]

14. Ummmm......

I'm a survivor in a sciety that treats me as a throwaway and has no concern for something as basic as my physical well being and survival. My loyalties and priorities are to provide for myself and my family. My contribution to the society that doesn't give a fuck about me is to support those who advance and protect my needs and interests within that society.

[MineralMan]

15. YooHoo! Still there? Can you reappear and address the questions?

Can you answer your own questions? It's not polite to post a bunch of questions and not participate in your own thread. Really...

[Faygo Kid]

16. I root against Da Bears.

Isn't that enough?

[hfojvt]

30. not even close

you've got to root against the Cowboys and the Yankees too, ya slacker.

[Faygo Kid]

51. You got it!

If that's the criteria, I DEFINITELY live a life that matters!

[reflection]

54. Ooh! That makes me constructive then too! n/t

[MineralMan]

17. Hey! AngryAmish! This is not the Lounge. Participate!

Address your own questions and the questions others are asking you. How rude to post something like this and then disappear!

[Political Heretic]

18. God I hope not - I'd rather be a deconstructive member of society

:)

[Mugweed]

20. What society?

The human race, in general? Or a subset you specifically have in mind? What "law" are you referring to? Give what? Depend in what way and for what timeframe?

[shawcomm]

21. Constructive? I work in construction

but I usually tear down buildings. :evilgrin:

Seriously though, I have no clue if I'm a constructive member of society. I guess it depends on whose rules I'm judged by.

By stiff right wing nuts who think I should go to "church", not drink when I want, etc? Probably not.

I break some laws. I won't say which. :evilgrin: But they're pretty small. I don't really have anyone who depends on me, except work wise which we all have.

And I think we here, if we honestly judge ourselves, are very constructive. I think being this active in politics like everyone here is about as constructive as we can get. The shaping of ideas is what led to freedom and this country forming, ideas being pushed led to civil rights, and it will be people like us who keep freedom alive. So yeah, I'd say if we honestly rate ourselves, we're pretty constructive.

[Forkboy]

23. Sort of, about equal, hell no, and fuck off.

:rofl:

[Bonhomme Richard]

24. Not recently, yes, yes. The metric I use is whether or not.....

society is better for my being here. I have to say yes
I designed and manufacture something that saves the taxpayers millions (I make an OK average living - not wealthy)
People depend on me to do my job.
I make people laugh
My wife and I raised two great kids
Play in a band and watch people having fun

[demosincebirth]

25. Its like saying that you are humble. Once you think you're humble, you're not.

[AngryAmish]

27. Uriah Heep agrees

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. I used to be, then I joined the marines.

And, spent four years doing absolutely nothing of benefit to anyone other than the MIC.

[hobbit709]

33. define constructive.

[AngryAmish]

35. Is society better off with you or without you?

[hobbit709]

39. That's relative to your point of view.

From my POV it may not make any difference. From someone elses it may.

[MineralMan]

42. According to whom? You? How arrogant!

[AlienGirl]

56. This datum cannot be known without absolute knowledge of all possible futures. It is irrelevant.

[Fla_Democrat]

41. Yes

No
Yes
Yes
See above. :eyes:

[WillyT]

43. You Bet Your Ass... I Pay Taxes...

:sarcasm:

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[Duer 157099]

45. Like George Carlin used to say...

(paraphrased) It seems that it's the highly motivated people in society who are causing the most damage. It takes lots of motivation to be a serial killer, to be a greedy Wall Street con artist, to run the government into the ground... the guy who sleeps and watches TV all day probably isn't hurting anyone at all.

[datasuspect]

46. i haul ass and get paid . . .

so, FUCK YEAH!

[Forkboy]

48. What's a truckload of ass worth these days?

:hide:

[datasuspect]

50. about the same as a holy assload of pine cones.

[Forkboy]

53. Sounds like some kind of Lodge hazing.

[asdjrocky]

57. Dude, ouch!

[fan of the arts]

49. I use a very specific measuring device that's been approved by the Council...

That device requires me to believe that war is peace and ignorance is strength.

[On the Road]

55. "Yes" to All the Above

Somebody's got to take up the slack.

:hippie:

[asdjrocky]

58. Thanks.

I'm really too busy fucking off to care.

[On the Road]

60. Please Carry On Fucking Off, Then

I don't really understand this thread.

:toast:

[asdjrocky]

61. Here's to our total lack of understand!

:toast:

[L0oniX]

59. Ask the banksters.

[AlienGirl]

62. Oh, of course I'm not! I'm ill, on General Assistance and medical coupons

I have more debt to corporations than I can possibly repay, I have only saved a relatively few equally valueless lives, and although I maintain an individual of a Threatened Species, nobody has any real ideas for rebuilding enough habitat for any potential progeny to work on a viable repopulation program.

So, what's the point of this thread? Does the OP have in mind any sort of solution to the problem of people like me?

Tucker