Rahm, WH looking at Executive orders to get the job done

[upi402]

How stupid would I be if I were to have my hopes lifted again? Would it be like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown?

Sure has been my secret thought for some time, that Obama would give the Republicans enough rope to hang themselves and show them for the obstructionists that they are. Then, one Friday night start issuing Executive Orders like the Bush-Republican firehose of fascism that just kept hosing and hosing and hosing.


Hope anyone? Or is it a ruse? An attempt to get Republicans to be less mean and let the majority play with their ball a little.

[Chipper Chat]

1. Go ahead Barack. Make my day.

I would love it. And I might add that if something, ANYTHING, progressive doesn't get done soon we can kiss control of Congess goodbye in 2010. Voters will just stay home.

[Luminous Animal]

2. So you are looking forward to Bush-Republican type fascism?

This is why our Democracy is failing.

[provis99]

3. agree with you 100%.

Executive orders are terrible, and probably unconstitutional in the way they are carried out. Just because our side does it doesn't make me feel any better.

And this is the best Rahm can come up with, when the Democrats have majorities in both houses of Congress? What weak sauce.

[upi402]

7. Well you are more hopeful than me

Man, I wish I had as much faith that democracy isn't broken here. Sadly, I hear sirens going off and see lights flashing. It's an emergency. I'm just hoping someone with a hose shows up to put some fires out.

Senate broken
House neutered
Supreme Court, activist neocons

The last House on the block is White

[Luminous Animal]

9. Issuing executive orders bypasses Congress

weakens checks and balances and further cements a unitary executive.

[upi402]

10. There is no Democracy. It's a facade

We're toast here. It's easier for us to think in terms of our former functioning democracy. We have this one chance to restore it, and we wont. Why? Because we refuse to see the situation for what it is. We resist and want to think of how it used to work, how it should work.


Most do see that it does not work.

[Luminous Animal]

12. Restore democracy by promoting executive fiat?

Specifically what unconstitutional and anti-democratic diktats do you propose that Obama order?

[upi402]

22. Here are some Executive Orders, listed;

1800s

* 1836: Specie Circular - Required payment for public lands be in gold and silver specie
* 1863: Executive Order 95: The Emancipation Proclamation - Freed slaves in states rebelling against the U.S.
* 1872: The Colville Indian Reservation is created. April 9, 1872

1900-1929

* 1907: (35 Stat. 2136), Roosevelt Reservation: Created a sixty foot wide security buffer along the United States-Mexico Border.<1><2>

* 1914: Executive Order 1888: Providing conditions of employment for the Permanent Force for the Panama Canal<3>

* 1918: Executive Order 2859: National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences<4>

* 1927: Executive Order 4601: Authorization of the Distinguished Flying Cross <5>

Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)

EO's 5075-6070 <6>
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945)

EO's 6071-9537

1933 - E.O. 6071 - E.O. 6545 (573 Executive orders signed)

* 1933: Executive Order 6102: Prohibited the hoarding of gold coins, gold bullion, and gold certificates
* 1933: Executive Order 6340: Created the Commodity Credit Corporation

1934 - E.O. 6546 - E.O. 6935 (474 Executive orders signed)

* 1934: Executive Order 6591: Cancelled all domestic mail contracts

1935 - E.O. 6936 - E.O. 7261 (394 Executive orders signed)

* 1935: Executive Order 7034: Created the Works Progress Administration, May 6, 1935

1936 - E.O. 7262 - E.O. 7531 (274 Executive orders signed)

1937 - E.O. 7532 - E.O. 7784 (253 Executive orders signed)

1938 - E.O. 7784-A - E.O. 8030 (247 Executive orders signed)

1939 - E.O. 8031 - E.O. 8316 (287 Executive orders signed)

* 1939: Executive Order 8034: Created the Federal Real Estate Board
* 1939: Executive Order 8248: Reorganised the Executive Office of the President

1940 - E.O. 8317 - E.O. 8624 (309 Executive orders signed)

1941 - E.O. 8625 - E.O. 9005 (383 Executive orders signed)

* 1941: Executive Order 8802: Prohibited racial, religious, and ethnic discrimination in the defense industry

1942 - E.O. 9006 - E.O. 9292 (289 Executive orders signed)

* 1942: Executive Order 9066: Established areas in the U.S. from which any or all persons may be excluded → Japanese-American internment
* 1942: Executive Order 9095: Created the Office of the Alien Property Custodian
* 1942: Executive Order 9102: Created the War Relocation Authority for the internment of Japanese-Americans
* 1942: Executive Order 9139: Created the War Manpower Commission
* 1942: Executive Order 9260: Established the rules for awarding the Legion of Merit and required the President's approval for its award

1943 - E.O. 9293 - E.O. 9412 (122 Executive orders signed)

1944 - E.O. 9413 - E.O. 9508 (100 Executive orders signed)

1945 - E.O. 9509 - E.O. 9537 (29 Executive orders signed)
Harry S. Truman (1945-1953)

Administration of Harry S Truman Executive Orders Disposition Tables<7>

EO's 9538-10431

1945 - E.O. 9538 - E.O. 9672 (139 Executive orders signed)

1946 - E.O. 9673 - E.O. 9817 (148 Executive orders signed)

* 1946: Executive Order 9761: Preservation and Display of Enemy Flags Captured by the Navy and the Coast Guard. Supersedes: Executive order of February 9, 1849

1947 - E.O. 9818 - E.O. 9918 (100 Executive orders signed)

* 1947: Executive Order 9835: Established the first general loyalty program designed to root out Communists in the government.

1948 - E.O. 9919 - E.O. 10025 (117 Executive orders signed)

* 1948: Executive Order 9981: Prohibited racial, religious, and ethnic discrimination in the armed forces

1949 - E.O. 10026 - E.O. 10094 (69 Executive orders signed)

1950 - E.O. 10095 - E.O. 10199 (95 Executive orders signed)

1951 - E.O. 10200 - E.O. 10317 (118 Executive orders signed)

1952 - E.O. 10318 - E.O. 10420 (104 Executive orders signed)

* 1952: Executive Order 10340: Ordered Secretary of Commerce to seize steel mills to prevent labor strike. Found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer.

1953 - E.O. 10421 - E.O. 10431 (11 Executive orders signed)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)

Administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive Orders Disposition Tables<8>

EO's 10432-10913

* 1959: Executive Order 10834: Defined the design of the flag of the United States<9>
U.S. flag design as defined by Executive Order 10834.

John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)

EO's 10914-11127

* 1961: Executive Order 10925: Created the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission

* 1962: Executive Order 11051 was revoked by Executive Order 12148: Specifies the duties and responsibilities of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put ALL executive orders into effect in times deemed to be of increased international tension, economic crisis, and/or financial crisis

* 1963: Executive Order 11110: Delegating the authority to issue silver certificates under the Agricultural Adjustment Act of May 12, 1933 to the Secretary of the Treasury

Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)

EO's 11128-11451

* 1965: Executive Order 11246: Prohibited discrimination in employment decisions on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin
* 1966: Executive Order 11310: Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President

Richard Nixon (1969-1974)

EO's 11452-11797

* 1969: Executive Order 11478: Prohibiting discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, handicap, or age in the competitive service of the federal civilian workforce, which includes civilians employed by the armed forces and by federal contractors and contractors performing under federally assisted construction contracts. See full text of Executive Order 11478. Some categories were added by Executive Order 12106 in 1978.

Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)

EO's 11798-11966

* 1975: Executive Order 11850--Renunciation of certain uses in war of chemical herbicides and riot control agents.

* 1976: Executive Order 11905: Outlawed the use of political assassination.<10>

* 1976: Executive Order 11921: Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production, distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money.

Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)

EO's 11967-12286

* 1979: Executive Order 12148: Established the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
* 1979: Executive Order 12170: Allows the freezing of all Iranian assets held within the United States

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)

EO's 12287-12667

* 1981: Executive Order 12333: Strengthened management of the United States Intelligence Community
* 1982: Executive Order 12372: Intergovernmental Review of Federal programs
* 1988: Executive Order 12656: Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Responsibilities
* 1988: Executive Order 12631: Working Group on Financial Markets
* 1989: Executive Order 12667: Establishes procedure for access to Presidential Records. (Revoked by Executive Order 13233, 1 November 2001. Restored by Barack Obama on 21 January 2009.)

George H.W. Bush (1989-1993)

EO's 12668-12833

* 1992: Executive Order 12810: implemented United Nations sanctions against engaging in economic activities in Yugoslavia. Noteworthy for its role in the extradition attempts of Bobby Fischer. (This Executive Order was later terminated in 2003)
* 1993: Executive Order 12829: Created the National Industrial Security Program

Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

EO's 12834-13197

[Luminous Animal]

25. Again, I ask you what, specifically...

you are asking Obama to do via executive order? If you are advocating that he legislate from his executive office, then you are advocating an utter destruction our Constitutional system of checks and balances.

[upi402]

26. I would suggest

that I be sent to an Ivy League College and appointed to his cabinet. Then, in short order, I would answer very specifically, publicly, and often. And there would be some motherfucking Chicklets on the floor too, when I was done. If it was the last thing I ever did, I would fight the corporate bastards who have ruined this nation by any legal means necessary.

[Luminous Animal]

28. So, you've got nothing except some vague notion that daddy Obama is going to save you.

[upi402]

31. lol, come on now. you done?

[Luminous Animal]

15. So rather than fight for your birthright...

for the power that is vested in the people, you advocate that power becomes vested in the hands of an authoritarian executive.

You are advocating for the destruction of the U.S. as a democratic nation.

[upi402]

18. uh, it's already gone

did it come back while i had a snack?

[Luminous Animal]

19. So, our only alternative is Bush-Republican type fascism, eh?

That is, if I were to buy your argument.

[upi402]

5. I must not have been clear

BushCo was tireless in their actions. Their dirty deeds came very fast. It was like taking a sip from a firehose trying to keep track of all their BS.

Why can't Democrats just start pushing stuff fast, so fast that Republicans can't form a roadblock to each issue? We are too easy to block and drop.

[Luminous Animal]

8. Do you or do you not think that issuing executive orders

ala Bush, is the solution to gridlock?

[upi402]

11. is there another?

please tell me
i really see no other hope

[Luminous Animal]

13. You assert that Bush's tactics were fascistic.

What would make them any less so if Obama employes them?

[upi402]

20. making government work vs. obliterating the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

There's a distinction and a difference. Is Executive Order not a legal mechanism? Is this not an emergency? If not now, when would you think urgent action is needed? When you are homeless and hungry perhaps?

[Luminous Animal]

21. Handing over power to a unitary executive IS obliteraing the Constitution & BOR.

What,(fwiw) precisely, do you think Obama will do with this power? I ask not what he should do but what he will do.

[upi402]

23. Executive Order 11478: Prohibiting discrimination based on race

* 1969: Executive Order 11478: Prohibiting discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, handicap, or age in the competitive service of the federal civilian workforce, which includes civilians employed by the armed forces and by federal contractors and contractors performing under federally assisted construction contracts. See full text of Executive Order 11478. Some categories were added by Executive Order 12106 in 1978.

He'd prolly go fer dat

[upi402]

24. # 1863: Executive Order 95: The Emancipation Proclamation - Freed slaves in states rebelling against

'nuder goodun

[gateley]

4. I've got hope, after a spell of being disappointed, disillusioned and disgusted.

I think it's because I've realized that even though I was convinced Obama wasn't aware of ___fill in the blank___ issue, or our dissatisfaction, he actually was (just not informing me every step of the way, hard as that is to believe :7) and that he's much more shrewd than I gave him credit for.

And with the benefit of hindsight, I think he was wise to take the approach he has rather than coming out with both barrels blasting the day after he was sworn in.

So I'm at a place where, even if I'm going WTF, man? -- I have faith and that pesky hope that he's got it nailed.

We'll see. :7 :thumbsup:

[DeadEyeDyck]

6. Obama could have passed the "Moon is Blue Cheese" act a year

ago. He squandered ALL his good will and the mandate while singing Kum By Yum. The time is over and any attempt to act tough is behind him. Doing so now would look like he is being despotic.

You may not like to hear it, but the best chance for Obama is to do a (94)Clinton mea culpa and go along to get along with the repubs. He should do back-flips to compromise with them until he wins back the MSM and the public. Then he can seek some real legislation.

let the flames begin. I am going to bed

[Change has come]

17. So, you're saying rush is right?

What a really interesting use of the "Turd In A Punchbowl" technique. :hi:

No flames from me. I'd love to hear more talking points tomorrow.

[DeadEyeDyck]

27. I haven't got to bed yet.

I am miffed on the Rush thing? What is it that you find so "talking pointish". That Obama missed the train? That he is politically weaker now than a year ago? You know, everytime I post a well thought out post, someone comes along and whines "Freeper" or "Fundie" or whatever. That is why I seldom come to this site.


I made it very clear in my very first post why I was here. I will tell the little story again, just for you.

I was told to join DU and FR while in a PolySci class. We were to see both sides of issues and to report on them. That was some time ago and I have let my FR account go. I have never hidden that fact from anyone. Or is there a rule that I have to be a dyed in the wool socialist to post here?

I am probably not near to the left as many here. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? I think my world view is a little different. I am bi-racial. My Dad was a black Green Beret and met my Mom in Germany. He retired in Florida to head up security at the corporate level for poultry plants. He has left that position and now offers personal protection to people whom need it. Think Liam Neeson in "Taken". He is my hero and the coolest guy in the world. He is also very conservative and BLACK. He knows Herman Cain and is his friend and I think Cain is one of his clients.

My Mom is German, white, has a PhD and is much more liberal. My sister and I are probably in the middle. I voted for Obama because we had so much in common. I am not so sure about that now. I am now a grad student and somewhat of an entrepreneur on the side. To confuse the mix even more, my girlfriend is Pilipino.

So I am quite sure my beliefs and culture does not meet your approval. I will try to toe the line a little closer just to make you happy!

So now that I have told you my life story, how about yours!!

[upi402]

32. You're welcome here DU, no worries

but don't forget your flame-proof suit. It's getting hot in here! lol

Obama has lost his window of opportunity. I'd agree with that, though he's not unpopular yet. Unlike Congress and Bush and the Republican Party. But Obama will be very unpopular if he doesn't use some sort of 'rabbit from the hat' tactics at this point. And America is nearer the black hole that it has been since the Great Depression. But now there are missiles and nukes, so it's no good. Hence my desperation, and willingness to accept what Bush made seem threatening - a unitary executive. Obama is not my hero by any means, btw.

[Luminous Animal]

29. #1 Obama still has the public.

#2 The MSM is owned by a handful of rich Republicans who represent the interests of 2% of the population.

#3 The public is overwhelmingly not rich people.

So, tell me why Obama needs to appease 2% of the population? And what kind of real legislation would you expect via appeasement toward Republicans?

What kind of legislation are you looking for?

[Arkana]

30. Hey, get out.

[Name removed]

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[MidwestTransplant]

14. I wonder if this will cause Glenn Beck to have a stroke?

[agent46]

16. Zzzzzzzzz. Honk. Weeeee. Zzzzzzzz. n/t

[dysfunctional press]

34. do you have a link...? or is this just your own speculation?

[winyanstaz]

35. If it was wrong and bad for Bush to do it.....

It is also wrong if Obama does it...
And if this is allowed..what if someone like Palin takes office next?
Does anyone really want to go there?

[Fumesucker]

36. It doesn't matter whether Obama does the executive order thing or not

Whatever Republican next takes office, Palin or whoever, is going to churn out executive orders so fast it will look like a snowstorm in the Oval Office.

Surely no one is naive enough to think that if Obama refrains from EOs the Republicans would also?

[winyanstaz]

38. Congress needs to get off its butt and fix it so it cannot be done without serious

consequences.
The Justice department needs to get off it's butt and uphold the Constitution.
If it is not stopped...there is NO more Constitution left. Congress might as well pack up and take their butts home and so should the Supreme court. They will be irrelevant and no longer needed.

[Don Caballero]

37. Now this is how these powers are supposed to be used. For progression, not regression.

Anyone who compares this to how the Shrub used these powers is naive. President Obama understands that these changes cannot be stalled and stopped by the inept and corrupt Congress.

[winyanstaz]

39. There IS NO POWER given for the President to do this...

This is something that they gave THEMSELVES and Congress and the Justice Department let them do it.
There is NO provision for it in the Constitution and in fact it states that only the powers given in the Constitution are allowed.

[upi402]

40. And yet...

1800s

* 1836: Specie Circular - Required payment for public lands be in gold and silver specie
* 1863: Executive Order 95: The Emancipation Proclamation - Freed slaves in states rebelling against the U.S.
* 1872: The Colville Indian Reservation is created. April 9, 1872

1900-1929

* 1907: (35 Stat. 2136), Roosevelt Reservation: Created a sixty foot wide security buffer along the United States-Mexico Border.<1><2>

* 1914: Executive Order 1888: Providing conditions of employment for the Permanent Force for the Panama Canal<3>

* 1918: Executive Order 2859: National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences<4>

* 1927: Executive Order 4601: Authorization of the Distinguished Flying Cross <5>

Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)

EO's 5075-6070 <6>
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945)

EO's 6071-9537

1933 - E.O. 6071 - E.O. 6545 (573 Executive orders signed)

* 1933: Executive Order 6102: Prohibited the hoarding of gold coins, gold bullion, and gold certificates
* 1933: Executive Order 6340: Created the Commodity Credit Corporation

1934 - E.O. 6546 - E.O. 6935 (474 Executive orders signed)

* 1934: Executive Order 6591: Cancelled all domestic mail contracts

1935 - E.O. 6936 - E.O. 7261 (394 Executive orders signed)

* 1935: Executive Order 7034: Created the Works Progress Administration, May 6, 1935

1936 - E.O. 7262 - E.O. 7531 (274 Executive orders signed)

1937 - E.O. 7532 - E.O. 7784 (253 Executive orders signed)

1938 - E.O. 7784-A - E.O. 8030 (247 Executive orders signed)

1939 - E.O. 8031 - E.O. 8316 (287 Executive orders signed)

* 1939: Executive Order 8034: Created the Federal Real Estate Board
* 1939: Executive Order 8248: Reorganised the Executive Office of the President

1940 - E.O. 8317 - E.O. 8624 (309 Executive orders signed)

1941 - E.O. 8625 - E.O. 9005 (383 Executive orders signed)

* 1941: Executive Order 8802: Prohibited racial, religious, and ethnic discrimination in the defense industry

1942 - E.O. 9006 - E.O. 9292 (289 Executive orders signed)

* 1942: Executive Order 9066: Established areas in the U.S. from which any or all persons may be excluded → Japanese-American internment
* 1942: Executive Order 9095: Created the Office of the Alien Property Custodian
* 1942: Executive Order 9102: Created the War Relocation Authority for the internment of Japanese-Americans
* 1942: Executive Order 9139: Created the War Manpower Commission
* 1942: Executive Order 9260: Established the rules for awarding the Legion of Merit and required the President's approval for its award

1943 - E.O. 9293 - E.O. 9412 (122 Executive orders signed)

1944 - E.O. 9413 - E.O. 9508 (100 Executive orders signed)

1945 - E.O. 9509 - E.O. 9537 (29 Executive orders signed)
Harry S. Truman (1945-1953)

Administration of Harry S Truman Executive Orders Disposition Tables<7>

EO's 9538-10431

1945 - E.O. 9538 - E.O. 9672 (139 Executive orders signed)

1946 - E.O. 9673 - E.O. 9817 (148 Executive orders signed)

* 1946: Executive Order 9761: Preservation and Display of Enemy Flags Captured by the Navy and the Coast Guard. Supersedes: Executive order of February 9, 1849

1947 - E.O. 9818 - E.O. 9918 (100 Executive orders signed)

* 1947: Executive Order 9835: Established the first general loyalty program designed to root out Communists in the government.

1948 - E.O. 9919 - E.O. 10025 (117 Executive orders signed)

* 1948: Executive Order 9981: Prohibited racial, religious, and ethnic discrimination in the armed forces

1949 - E.O. 10026 - E.O. 10094 (69 Executive orders signed)

1950 - E.O. 10095 - E.O. 10199 (95 Executive orders signed)

1951 - E.O. 10200 - E.O. 10317 (118 Executive orders signed)

1952 - E.O. 10318 - E.O. 10420 (104 Executive orders signed)

* 1952: Executive Order 10340: Ordered Secretary of Commerce to seize steel mills to prevent labor strike. Found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer.

1953 - E.O. 10421 - E.O. 10431 (11 Executive orders signed)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961)

Administration of Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive Orders Disposition Tables<8>

EO's 10432-10913

* 1959: Executive Order 10834: Defined the design of the flag of the United States<9>
U.S. flag design as defined by Executive Order 10834.

John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)

EO's 10914-11127

* 1961: Executive Order 10925: Created the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission

* 1962: Executive Order 11051 was revoked by Executive Order 12148: Specifies the duties and responsibilities of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put ALL executive orders into effect in times deemed to be of increased international tension, economic crisis, and/or financial crisis

* 1963: Executive Order 11110: Delegating the authority to issue silver certificates under the Agricultural Adjustment Act of May 12, 1933 to the Secretary of the Treasury

Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)

EO's 11128-11451

* 1965: Executive Order 11246: Prohibited discrimination in employment decisions on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin
* 1966: Executive Order 11310: Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President

Richard Nixon (1969-1974)

EO's 11452-11797

* 1969: Executive Order 11478: Prohibiting discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, handicap, or age in the competitive service of the federal civilian workforce, which includes civilians employed by the armed forces and by federal contractors and contractors performing under federally assisted construction contracts. See full text of Executive Order 11478. Some categories were added by Executive Order 12106 in 1978.

Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)

EO's 11798-11966

* 1975: Executive Order 11850--Renunciation of certain uses in war of chemical herbicides and riot control agents.

* 1976: Executive Order 11905: Outlawed the use of political assassination.<10>

* 1976: Executive Order 11921: Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production, distribution, energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money.

Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)

EO's 11967-12286

* 1979: Executive Order 12148: Established the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
* 1979: Executive Order 12170: Allows the freezing of all Iranian assets held within the United States

Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)

EO's 12287-12667

* 1981: Executive Order 12333: Strengthened management of the United States Intelligence Community
* 1982: Executive Order 12372: Intergovernmental Review of Federal programs
* 1988: Executive Order 12656: Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Responsibilities
* 1988: Executive Order 12631: Working Group on Financial Markets
* 1989: Executive Order 12667: Establishes procedure for access to Presidential Records. (Revoked by Executive Order 13233, 1 November 2001. Restored by Barack Obama on 21 January 2009.)

George H.W. Bush (1989-1993)

EO's 12668-12833

* 1992: Executive Order 12810: implemented United Nations sanctions against engaging in economic activities in Yugoslavia. Noteworthy for its role in the extradition attempts of Bobby Fischer. (This Executive Order was later terminated in 2003)
* 1993: Executive Order 12829: Created the National Industrial Security Program

Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

EO's 12834-13197

[winyanstaz]

41. yup.......

Little by little...and now it is accepted...

[upi402]

44. not sure it was ever unacceptable

BushCo wiping their collective Republican ass with the Bill of Rights aside...
Seems like the Executive Order is standard practice since records on it have been kept.

Not every EO is the Emancipation Proclamation, but reforming this corrupt DeathCare System would help even more Americans than that brave action.

[JVS]

42. Oh boy. We're going to see a lot of people change position on this here at DU

:popcorn:

[Jennicut]

43. Get rid of the filibuster needing to be 60 votes (or actually make people do a real filibuster) and

then there is no need to do this. But with the way things are with conservadems and Rethugs being so difficult I can see the temptation. When can the rules be changed...does it need to be in the next Congress? Will never happen with Reid there however.