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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 05:58 PM Original message |
As American citizens, in all our diversity, what is the one thing we should all know? |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Russell was better than Wilt |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. true |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. False. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I was undecided about the issue until I found out that Wilt never fouled out of a game |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
86. Good points. n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Ali |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. "I knew" |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Technically, Bill Bradley may have been smarter |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. There were people here before us? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've never thought the original owners of these lands have been celebrated enough! n/t |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-13-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. The one thing we all should know???? |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
6. We all bleed the same color & breath the same air, on this small dot of a planet. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. +1 |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. Our real history |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That is the truth, |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. True. I always manage to slide the truth in there. Sometimes |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
10. That our Founders did not want a "Christian Nation" and some of them weren't Christian themselves |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. essential knowledge nt |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. The things I've learned over the years about this country have |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. well said |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. you do realise that what you are talking about is actually the human race in its entirety |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. How does that dubious claim exonerate the USA from its historical crimes? nt |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. it dosent, but you got to know that every country has crimes, and no peoples are pure |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I disagree that this is "the nature of mankind." |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. so you need to face the ugly truths about the native peoples as well |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. As citizens, this is our country and we are responsible ethically for |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. rofl okay, so its only the european americans that we can criticise and america since the europeans |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. I'm not ethically responsible for things that happened 100 years before was born |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Your last 2 questions are for you to decide on your own. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. in that vain how far back should people be apoligising and healing wounds |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Heal the wounds? |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. The collective nature of mankind is not the genetic nature of all individuals! |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. good post, but you know as well as i do that the wolves may be outnumbered but they will win |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Historically wolves are winning at the end of good times, |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Why do you think it's dubious? |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Because it is dubious revisionistic bullshit |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. okay so because they didnt have the ability to do it, means that their attempts should be sugar coat |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Your assumptions are running wild. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. rofl what assumptions, answer me this, did the tribes kill people from other tribes |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. sounds like you roll on the floor a lot |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. okay so tell me is it only european imperialism and religious wars that started this horrific time |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Yes, these two factors, along with industrialization, capitalism and liberal democracy, which |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. mayby we are, but also isnt the america you are talking about made up of people from all these other |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Correct. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. okay there was no warfare, but did they kill each other, and raid each other |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Agriculture tied to large city-states seems to be a prerequisite of such imperial warfare. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. so you deny or do you admit that the tribal societies that existed in teh US |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It is clear where I stand. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. so are you allowed to say bad stuff about the indigenious peoples of the US |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. With regards to history, |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Right. If a person |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. rofl so once again i ask you in order to learn something, did the native peoples |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Just read my posts here, I won't repeat what I've already stated. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. im having issues today, sorry im on adouble shift so im fecking tired |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. sounds intense...check out this book, "1491" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. What's always interesting to me |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Awareness and responsibility towards the present are what I would like to see. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. yup no problem, im actually a big fan of history, always inteested me |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. That's hardly the equivalent of conquering an entire fucking continent just because you can |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. not saying it is, im just saying that if you were part of a family group that was eradicated |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Right. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I am not trying to saying that everyone else has done the same or |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Who has ever done this? nt |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Mix, I thought you did with your reply #15. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. nope it will never happen, there are always going to be people with differeing ideas |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I agree, but it is only in our power to change our society and deal with our past. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. I think one nation can lead, and thus influence other nations to do the |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. If you have a memory, you have a history. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. good point, but we should be allowed to question whether we should feel any guilt |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I think we should be able to question whether we should feel any |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Interesting point. I wonder if it's correct. I tend to think it is. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. Great wealth can't exist without the support of widespread poverty and neglect. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Class relations are another historical topic that Americans are in denial about. nt |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. +1 nt |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. The offside trap is a dangerous gamble. nt |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
79. heh heh and yet w/out gambling life itself could not exist EOM |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. The Tulsa Race Riot was a race riot in that whites went crazy going so |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. This thread, and all its posts, is EXACTLY why I love DU. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. Not only know it but be very ashamed of it as it is still going on. n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
61. That the owners of capital are the cause of all our ills, past and present |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. +1 (Well, the cause of all ills at least since absolute monarchy.) |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Stalinism was possible because of Leninism. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
68. the common good requires constant vigilance against theft by the already wealthy |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
78. whats special or american about hate and ugliness? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
80. You can blame some of that on lack of immunity to European diseases. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. They played an enormous part. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
81. The automatic transmission is a tool of the devil. |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
82. That there was a plot to overthrow FDR in the 30s |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
84. That we are all one. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
87. The best and the brightest, the leaders and thinkers, none of them know what their doing either, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. They're |
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Veruca Salt (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
89. You don't talk about fight club. |
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