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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:33 AM
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We are in the midst of a powerful El Nino. Canada's senior climatologist with EC said....
...this is an extremely powerful El Nino. Canada's prairies are experiencing very warm weather, and the jet stream that usually sweeps across the continent west-east is split by El Nino.
One side goes down the east cost of the US, and one along the west.

The result is a lot of snow for the eastern US. That is what David Phillips, the senior climatologist at Environment Canada, said in early January.

I can't believe nobody in the US media talks about El Nino as all this talk about global warming being debunked is going on.

People on the denial side of life are quick to condemn, and repeatedly condemning, claims that people who accept global warming blame every weather event on global warming. I don't see that, myself, but it's certainly a good tool for the deniers in their ongoing campaign to discredit science and scientists. What I do see is the deniers using every bit of snow and cold to make a claim that global warming doesn't exist. Sad, desperate, and pathetic little flailing and deceitful runts is all they are.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:33 PM
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1. El Nino is declared on the same schedule as an economic recession; in hindsight.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:46 PM
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2. Yep. Science must predict and be testable....

Whatever this climatologist was talking about - it wasn't science.
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 10:38 PM
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3. Ya lost me there....
this climatologist is talking about science. El Nino is a weather pattern that is understood, scientifically. And there's no question, none at all, according to scientists, that we're experiencing El Nino at the moment.
Wha I'm missing here?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 10:43 PM
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4. "Sad, desperate, and pathetic little flailing and deceitful runts is all they are."
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 10:44 PM by depakid
That's about the long and short of it- AND it applies doubly to the American corporate media.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 10:54 PM
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5. Reality: Snow in winter does not disprove global warming
http://mediamatters.org/research/201002090032

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FACT: Cold weather has no relevance to the climate debate. In a March 2, 2008, article, The New York Times reported that climate scientists -- including at least one who has disputed aspects of the scientific consensus on climate change -- completely reject the notion that short-term changes in weather bear any relevance to the climate debate. The article quoted Gavin Schmidt, a climate modeler at NASA saying: "It's all in the long-term trends. Weather isn't going to go away because of climate change."

FACT: 2000-2009 was the warmest decade on record. In January, major meteorological organizations throughout the world -- including NASA -- released reports showing that the past decade, 2000-2009, was the warmest on record. The reports undermine the right-wing media's numerous claims that recent snow and cold weather show climate change does not exist or has slowed over the past 10 years.
Media conservatives have a long history of using weather to deny global warming

Led by Fox News hosts, conservative media use weather patterns to claim the planet is cooling. Led by Fox News, conservative media figures have relentlessly turned to weather patterns in their ongoing assault on global warming science, despite reports showing the past decade was the warmest on record.
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