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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:19 PM
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Victim’s family says 'thank you' to Fort Hood shooting suspect
CLEAR LAKE, Texas -- The family of a soldier injured during the shooting rampage at Fort Hood has an unusual message for the suspected gunman: "Thank you."

“I kind of look at this as a blessing in disguise,” said Army Specialist Dayna Ferguson Roscoe at her home in Clear Lake.

The 21-year-old took three bullets on Nov. 5.

At the time of the shooting, her name was Dayna Ferguson. She added Roscoe to the end of it in January when she married fellow Army Spc. Randy Roscoe.

The name change is why she says getting shot in the arm, shoulder and leg was worth it.

more . . . http://www.kvue.com/news/state/Victims-family-says-thank-you-to-Fort-Hood-shooting-suspect-84013467.html
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:22 PM
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1. i hate to say it but she sounds like a fucking ninny
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 11:23 PM by pitohui
they ought to x-ray her brain and see if there's any shrapnel in there

so she's permanently injured and may lose her arm or just have it shortened but it's all a-okay because now she won't be deployed and she can sit at home playing wifey

ugh

what a great example for women everywhere...not...

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:52 PM
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8. I hear ya
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:49 AM
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11. And you have to wonder about the dope of a reporter that wrote it this way, too. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:43 AM
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15. Definitely
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:11 AM
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At least this way she won't be blown to bits by an IED..
I'm not so much a "glass half full" kind of person but I bet this woman is..
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:11 AM
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13. At least this way she won't be blown to bits by an IED..
I'm not so much a "glass half full" kind of person but I bet this woman is..
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:23 PM
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2. Yay for her, but a bit crass
Sounds nutty
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:48 PM
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6. It's a subtle fuck you to the shooter
letting him know that despite his best efforts to do evil to all, some good came out for some.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:41 AM
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9. a "blessing in disguise" = fuck you?
Sounds like a selfish, not-so-subtle fuck you to everyone who lost their lives and their families.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:43 AM
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10. The message was addressed to the shooter, not the families
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 12:44 AM by Xipe Totec
would you prefer the message:

Congratulations! you fucked as ALL. You win! YAY!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:51 AM
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12. Put it this way:
If my wife was shot and killed by that asshole, and someone who survived was fucking *thanking* him because she was able to get married...I would think that's more than a little callous, selfish, and inconsiderate.

I think you would too.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:23 PM
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35. Yes, sounds like a case of pure selfishness on her part,
without consideration for those who lost their lives and were injured.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:37 AM
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14. Yeah, I didn't get that....
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 01:37 AM by Oregone
Saying that you weren't meant to go to Iraq and something (greater like God) stopped it?

Thats like saying fuck you to the expendable dead and disabled people in my opinion
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:54 AM
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21. It simple. The dead people were the pricetag God put on her not going to Iraq.
God can do "good things" but nobody said you will like the price tag.

In her mind lifetime disability, trauma of an attack more traumatic than the action some people see in Iraq, dozen dead people is a good trade for a year in the sand in which 90% of soldiers return home with no injuries and far less mental trauma than the shooting she went through.

However some people on DU think she is speaking in her right mind. It makes so much sense.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:57 AM
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22. Yes, that is how I read it too
Subtlety doesn't seem to be popular here, though. Did you see the comments on the article?
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:18 AM
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26. and a not so subtle who cares about you to his other victims?
It is a stupid thing to say and someone should have told her so. Right to her stupid face.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:24 PM
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3. Don't forget to thank the Guns Galore store where he bought his shit.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:29 PM
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4. "Thanks for killing 13 people so I could get married."
How reprehensible.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:33 PM
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5. "and not go to Iraq"
The Flying Spaghetti Monster works in mysterious ways
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:48 PM
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7. Wow! What a trulie *weido* twist...huh n/t
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:02 AM
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16. So a young woman permanently injured in a horrific shooting decides to forgive the shooter
instead of filling her life up with anger & hate, and she's the subject of ridicule on DU?

You all conveniently overlooked something she also said:

Dayna Roscoe and her family said they know they are lucky. While they are able to share their stories of joy and recovery, there are many families who are not.

:wtf: is it with some of you? Is this young woman supposed to walk around for the rest of her life with ashes on her face, wearing a hair shirt, because she was one of those who survived? She's not allowed the choice to deal with this situation in her own way?

dg
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alex456 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:12 AM
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17. Her own way, in private.
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 03:13 AM by alex456
If she wants to look on the bright side - ok. Do so in private, or at least have some tact if you're going to talk to the press. People were murdered that day by the individual she is thanking (not merely forgiving him). One of those dead was pregnant: does she believe God really thought her wedding was more important than that mother and child's life? There's a fine line between looking on the bright side/feeling blessed, and just being an insensitive selfish mess. She leaped across it.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:29 AM
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30. So as long as she doesn't do anything to bother your beautiful mind,
she can handle the situation anyway she wants?

I'm sorry, who's the selfish one again?

dg
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alex456 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:36 PM
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38. I don't understand how you don't get that she's selfish.
She said thank you to a killer. Not her killer. You have to think about how other people's families' are suffering before your own personal joy. If you don't, that's selfish.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:08 PM
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40. And I don't understand how you don't get she's grateful to be alive
& that apparently, because it would make YOU feel better, YOU want her to walk around in mourning the rest of her life because she dared to survive the attack when others died. I mean, how *DARE* she! :sarcasm:

dg
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:17 PM
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42. SHE didn't say "Thank You" to ANY FUCKING BODY. Go read the story again.
In addition to that, close brushes with death make people do and say strange things. It changes them as people in a lot of instances.

Life doesn't happen in a vacuum. There are consequences to each and every action that ripple out from the center. Some consequences affect people favorably, even people wholly disconnnected with the place where the ripple started. Others affect people unfavorably, connected or disconnected. There is no accounting for the way the people involved interpret the circumstances they find themselves in following a life-changing event.

Let me reiterate: She didn't say thank you to ANYONE. Time to get off of the bandwagon.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:04 AM
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18. Why did she go to the media?
That's what makes it odd, IMO.

Look at me! Look at me!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:25 AM
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28. How do you know she went to the media?
Perhaps the reporter went to her? :eyes:

None of you have one damn clue what she's been through & what she will be going through, yet here you are, dog piling on her because she has the audacity to turn a very negative thing that happened to her into something positive. I'm sure she's very aware (even more than you) that people died at Fort Hood...perhaps some were her friends. If saying "thank you" & looking at the positives is what gets her through the day instead of putting a bullet through her brain, who the fuck are you to say she's selfish?

I bet not one of you would trade places with her, either, yet you have no problem judging her & beating her up on DU because she dares to try to be happy & didn't ask you for permission.

dg
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:45 PM
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37. Well I don't have enough confidence in our media
to assume any reporter would be doing a story like this without hearing from the victim first.

I also saw this on my local news and the girl and her father were speaking at a press conference. That led me to conclude she had sought out the media.

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:10 AM
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20. FORGIVENESS is not the same thing as THANKING the shooter.
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 08:20 AM by Statistical
A rape victim forgiving a rapist for the attack = normal and probably healthy.
A rape victim forgiving a rapist for the attack = not normal, unhealthy and likely an indication of some continuing mental problems related to the attack.

Often in a traumatic event a mental defense mechanism is to simply pretend it didn't happen or that it wasn't that bad. "He only shot me it isn't like he was trying to kill me". That could be symptom of some unresolved trauma.

On the other hand maybe she just is a crass idiot however I am leaning towards unresolved issues from the attack. It simply isn't normal for people to thank their attackers.

It is possible to forgive the shooter and be thankful for not going to Iraq without thanking the shooter.
the same shooter who also killed people that day and if he had his wish would have killed this victim too.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:28 AM
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29. So because she doesn't handle this situation the exact same way that you would =
she's "not normal" & has "unresolved issues?"

:shakes head:

dg
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:25 PM
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36. No because she handled the situation in a very unsual manner SHE MAY have unresolved issues.
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 12:29 PM by Statistical
Human brain does some unusual things when it comes to trauma.

Victims often blame themselves for being attacked, or convince themselves it never happened, or that it isn't that big of a deal, or like in this instance that it was really a positive thing.

Some victims will even seek out the situation, or event that caused the trauma to begin with (a bizarre "if it happens a lot then it must be normal" coping mechanism).

All of that is the brain attempting to isolate and run damage control on something traumatic.


Maybe she is just unusual but her actions, and thoughts are a warning sign for larger mental issue from unresolved trauma.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:38 PM
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44. Um, she DID NOT thank the shooter. Read the first two words of the OP title. n/t
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:20 AM
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27. forgiving the shooter is one thing.
Calling this event a blessing is moronic. Spin it all ya want. Totally fucking moronic.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:31 AM
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31. And people wonder why liberals are considered "condescending"
You aren't in her situation, you have no idea what she's going through. And if looking at her situation as a "blessing" is what gets her through the day, where do you get off calling it "fucking moronic?"

dg
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:54 PM
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45. This DOES sound moronic and more than a little self absorbed.
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 03:57 PM by Raineyb

“I would like to personally thank, what’s the man’s name? Nidal, or whoever the shooter is,” said the injured soldier’s father, Jim Ferguson. "I would like to thank him for bringing all of this positivity into our life."


Sorry but there's no way that this kind of nuttery can't be written off as anything other than moronic. Her family is THANKING the man who shot her so she can now enjoy her happiness in marital bliss while the rest of those families are dealing with the loss of their loved ones. She should at the least have told her family to stay the fuck out of the bloody media.

There was no need to go to the media, this is one case where a big old can of shut the fuck up was seriously in order. Celebrate your happiness at the expense of all those dead people in private where the rest of us don't have to witness your macabre celebration.

edited as the quote was from her father. The rest still stands.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:08 AM
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19. She likely needs mental health counseling
One can be thankful that she didn't go to Iraq without also being tankful that a man went on a murder spree killing a dozen people.

I chalk it up as:
1) Heartless idiot
OR
2) Poor reporting
OR
3) Mental issues related to the shooting.

I hope it is not #1.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:12 AM
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23. My cousin fell into an empty swimming pool while he was in the Air force and was discharged
because of spine injuries. He is fine now and has no serious problems because of it. But at the time he just wasn't "military grade" anymore.
Shortly thereafter the Iraq war broke out. I always tell him he got lucky.

But thanking the Fort Hoods shooter? That is pretty nuts.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:12 AM
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24. Dingbat. I suppose all the families of those that died would agree with her, eh?
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 09:13 AM by TwilightGardener
"We're sure glad my husband was killed, now you don't have to deploy! YAY!"
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:17 AM
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25. Glad it worked out for her.
Guess a few dead people don't matter so long as she found love.

This was NOT a blessing of any fucking kind and only a self absorbed idiot would say so.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:37 AM
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32. Just like the assholes...
...that say 'Thank you' to god when they survive a plane crash that kills 200 others...

Not much of a blessing to the families of the dead.....


What an ignorant, selfish moron.....
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:42 AM
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33. "“I wasn’t meant to deploy, so something stopped it,” she said."
That's the comment that struck me as the strangest part of this article. Is she trying to say that ALL of this occurred just so she wouldn't be deployed?

To me that's a little arrogant.

If she didn't expect to be deployed, she should never have enlisted in the first place.

Forgiveness is a wonderful thing, but I'm not sure that she is forgiving in this article. If she is trying to tell the shooter "screw you, I survived and I'm going to live my life without you hurting me again" - well, I feel that the article could have been written from a much better angle to get that point across than how it is written.

In any event, I wish her well. I send the same wishes to all who suffered because of that massacre.

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:52 AM
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34. Ha! "god likes me best" .... how moranic.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:00 PM
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47. Too bad God didn't give her a heads-up about going to that gathering
:eyes:

life is random..shit happens.. God is not any more the reason she was spared, than the fact that she was hit.

luck was on her side.. she's not Jesus' BFF
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:42 PM
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49. I must have forgot my sarcasm thingie, I know god was
not on her side because IMO there is no god. That was what her statement said to me about what she was thinking. That is all.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:39 PM
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39. What a blessing, indeed.
Oh, how cute! Bullet holes. I guess that means Gawd wants
me to marry him becaue he was maimed. Okie dokie.
Let's see if it makes 10 years.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:12 PM
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41. Idiots like her provide fodder for the "women don't belong in the military" sexist pigs
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 03:14 PM by WildEyedLiberal
She enlisted, but didn't want to deploy anywhere *dangerous* heavens forbid! - to the point that she's grateful that some kook shot her and killed 13 people so she could avoid going to Afghanistan and marry her a nice man. :eyes: More fodder for the sexists who insist women don't have what it takes to be in the armed forces.

Ugh :puke:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:23 PM
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43. People need to read the story again but this time they need to pay attention. SHE DIDN'T SAY THANKS
She never said thank you to ANYONE. It's in the first TWO words in the article, AND it's in the first TWO words of the fucking OP subject line for goodness' sake.

Get off the bandwagon people. FIND for me where she says "Thank You" to the coward who shot her.

There is no accounting for the way people react to life-changing near-death experiences. None.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:58 PM
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46. She should have told them to STFU
Seriously, who the hell thinks it's a good idea for one's family to go out and say shit like this?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:51 PM
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48. “I kind of look at this as a blessing in disguise,” said Army Specialist Dayna Ferguson Roscoe
It wasn't only her family. She also made statements expressing her gratitude.
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