My Secret DU Confession

[alcibiades_mystery]

I didn't watch the Democratic debate. I don't even give a shit about the Democratic debate.

It's too goddamn early in the process. It's absolutely ridiculous that they should be having a debate in April 2007 for an election that will take place in November 2008. Primaries, I know. Whatever. This is silly.

That's my secret confession. I don't care one whit about it at this point.

So maybe I'm not a political junky.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

1. But you care a whole lot about not caring about it.

And that's just as good.

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Actually, I don't

Now, plenty of DUers know the ridiculously long posts I put up when I care about something.

So no. You're wrong. I don't even care that I don't care.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. You fooled me.

First time that's ever happened.

[Jcrowley]

8. But isn't not caring

about the purported and inferred caring an even deeper form of caring at least in the uncaring sense of the term?

Are we still in pre-season?

[frogcycle]

30. I started to craft an answer but

i realized i just don't care

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. No

[JI7]

3. well

i didn't watch it either but it's mostly because i wasn't able to. if i was home i would have watched it.

but based on my experience from previous Primary i also know it's not that important in the long run. especially debates this early on.

but it still helps give an idea about where the candidates stand and a chance to actually see the candidates themselves. considering the whore media doesn't report on anything beyond a horse race and stupid gossip.

it might help people who are not on any side at the moment decide which candidate to back and help.

[Botany]

4. Egg zack LEE

April 2007? please

[UNCLE_Rico]

5. Who needs to watch it when you've got the DU!!!

I don't watch a f*cking THING on TV anymore, cause I can just come here get way better insights about whatever was on anyways :)

[MadBadger]

7. Cuz I trust DU to be fair and objective

Yea right.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

11. What media outlet is fair & objective to you, hnmnf?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

15. hnmnf?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

33. hnmnf has a talent for shall we say...

disrupting? :shrug: MKJ

[Cameron27]

42. I don't see that at all.

I see someone who has strong opinions and isn't afraid to voice them. Nothing RW that I can see, and nothing disruptive IMO.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. As a matter of fact, yes. . nt.

[mmonk]

9. You're correct. The only worth I saw in it was

some people were made aware Kucinich entered articles of impeachment since it probably wasn't in their newspapers. It really didn't do anything to move us out of this nightmare. It was politics as usual and the perfect diversion for the people from reality. But I watched anyway.

[Canuckistanian]

10. It's a tad different this time

Oh, I know, it was in '04, too.

But this time there are REAL debates, the GOP has crapped out in terms of candidates and ideas. And there's a knowledge that one of those candidates will be the next president.

So, feel free to ignore this one. A lot can happen in the next year or so.

But understand that some people are just beginning to see that new dawn.

They're hungry for it.

[annabanana]

18. There hasn't been a real debate on TV since

...I don't know... EVER?

Are real debate, with a real moderator and rules and stuff like that...
might be something worth seeing.

[Adelante]

41. League of Women Voters

They gave up hosting the debates because the parties kept interfering in how they were conducted. Big loss.

[vickitulsa]

12. There was a Democratic debate?

:) Seriously, I didn't even know about it, and I read DU most every day. Of course, with so much here to choose from, it's easy to miss even high profile topics.

But I agree with you -- I think it's silly and way too early, also!

I never would aspire to be a political junkie. I have some friends who are -- all of them here at DU -- and I am fine with that. It's probably good for "our side" that we DO have people so concerned and involved in politics.

But I couldn't take it, frankly, if politics were to absorb me too much. Too many frustrating, maddening aspects to it, especially in present-day America!

I think you're probably not ill, AM. ;)

Some of us need longer breaks between campaign/election cycles than we get these days....

[Elwood P Dowd]

13. I didn't waste my time watching it either.

Way, way too far out to take it seriously. Too many dynamic shifts possible in the next year.

[sandnsea]

14. Then don't bitch about the Party either

The candidate influences the direction of the party. If the party ends up with a platform you hate, don't bitch, you didn't get involved when you had the chance to change it.

From some of the posts I read on the Kerry campaign, I suspect a lot of people paid about the same amount of attention to it too, despite what they want people to believe.

[alcibiades_mystery]

28. I don't bitch about the Party because I'm not a Democrat

And I think Party politics is always one tiny step away from Stalinism, even here.

Fuck the Party.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

38. Criswell predicts you're in for a rough ride this election cycle on the DU.

[sandnsea]

40. Oh, a rock thrower

Just sit back and throw rocks after everybody else has done all the work, never actually bring ideas to the table and try to influence change at the formative stages. I get it. I bet your co-workers adore you.

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. They do

They put me on the committees that require somebody to say that something is absolutely fucking stupid when it is. It's a rare skill, apparently, and only exercised by those who don't pretend to be doing all the work at the "formative stages."

Cheers.

[sandnsea]

44. Yeah, a rock thrower

Like I said. They put you on committees to sabatoge other people, or ideas they don't want to pay for. There's other words for it, but rock thrower will do. You'll never lead the company with that "attribute", I guarantee that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

48. I don't work for a company

I have absolutely zero interest in leading a company or even a department.

And you couldn't be more wrong.

It's called quality control, dog, and it ain't for the joiners and the group thinkers (that would be you, pretending to "build").

[sandnsea]

51. I bet you don't

Since sitting in a corner spitting at people isn't exactly in high demand. Dog. :eyes:

[alcibiades_mystery]

52. Whatever

I don't want to work for a company. I spent ten years in school after high school precisely to avoid working for companies.

And it doesn't matter anyway.

Your street corner commissar tactics are precisely the problem. The reason so many people don't join your sacred Party is you.

[shadowknows69]

16. I confess i had to work

but i DVRed it!!! Junkie!!!!

[annabanana]

17. I'm with YOU.

I will be checking out "join" dates & post counts of the newest, noisiest "members".. a disabled profile will raise big red flags for me. If someone gets loud and negative this early, they may not have the best interests of the community at heart.

[ScreamingMeemie]

19. I think it is rather early at this point to be having debates, but if they

want to I'm not going to stop them. I'm too busy with the Democratic party locally, for those who think that those of us who don't care aren't involved. :hi:

[radfringe]

20. didn't watch it either

my candidate "TOODANG EARLY" wasn't allowed to debate.

seriously though, I thought of watching it but just couldn't get "excited" about the debate. Calling any of the debates (past and present, Dem or Repub) a debate is a bit of a misnomer.

these "debates" are more like Q&A sessions. If this is going to be the "debate" style - then I think it would be better served with 1/2 hour sessions with one candidate each night being asked questions. But I did compromise and taped it... maybe I'll watch it this weekend

[B Calm]

21. I agree it's damn early but, the American people want this crime family

out of power!

[salin]

24. and *that* is a beautiful thing

and three years ago it didn't seem like we would ever get to the point where a large majority of the public would scrape the sleep out of their eyes and get to this point of wanting bushco out and discredited.

[NoPasaran]

22. Hey it was Comedy Night on NBC

I think "My Name Is Earl" has jumped the shark, but last night's was arguably the best episode of "The Office" ever.

[salin]

23. I am a political junky - and agree with you.

Okay - so I am interested a little bit in how people are reacting after the debate - but that is more about "DU watching".

Far too early.

[KharmaTrain]

25. Made For TV...The Endless Campaign

This is a new reality show here...a combination of American Idol & Survivor where only popularity matters. Almost zero of what was said last night will matter, yet be remembered, two weeks from now yet a year from now. The corporate media has set up scripts and these debates and other "stories" are just pump for a storyline to create interest. We heard little about health care last night, but we sure did hear about Kucinich's wife or Elizabeth Edward's cancer or Hillary's pearls or Biden's one-word answer to a stupid question. Substance? What fun is that? Plus notice the "coverage" was surrounded by 3 hours of "pre" and "post" game commentary...more verbage...more like ruffage.

I only tuned in because the White Sox game was rained out. I'm amused by the political theater, but no way do I take it seriously.

[marions ghost]

31. EXactly

just another overhyped spectacle to arouse the somnabulent masses.

But at least the candidates presented themselves in a direct way and not through their mouthpieces or detractors.

[donheld]

26. I don't care that you don't care that

i don't care that you don't care that i don't care that you don't care... :evilgrin:

[marions ghost]

27. well y'know

since we now have the "American Idol" approach to politics, you gotta get familiar with the contestants early in the season.

Last night was the opener for the general public and all the horses got out of the starting gate fairly well, except for the one dark horse. I think of the cartoon somebody did of all the rabbits running in a pack over the hill while Gore (the old tortoise) waits at the finish line. Gore's non-candidacy adds a dollop of suspense...will the no-show turn out to be a front runner? STAY TUNED...

A lot of Americans won't watch boring old politics--these days they have to make it a game show, with warm soapy overtones.

[Checkstub]

29. I agree!

n/t. I must respectfully state that this is somewhat irreverent.

[Buzz Clik]

32. Ditto. A thousand times ditto.

But I was also too busy. I had to feed the cat and floss my teeth.

I also avoided the endless coverage on MSNBC et al.

[omega minimo]

35. It's so they can avoid unifying on behalf of the nation and impeaching Bushco.

:thumbsdown:

[bigwillq]

36. You didn't miss much

It was kind of bad...bad format...bad moderator...silly questions...I agree it's way too early but I still watched. I had to.

[Dora]

39. I didn't even KNOW there was a debate.

I logged on last night, and DU was at Level 3.

WTF is happening, I thought? I couldn't see any threads about crises or scandals, so I logged out and went to bed.

At this stage, it's all about their egos. If candidates want to burn up their campaign funds this early in the season - go for it. It illustrates their lack of strategy. The only people who benefit from this kind of circle jerk are the television broadcasters and advertisers.

[libnnc]

45. It wasn't even a debate.

It was a forum. Eight people on the stage, one dumbassed jug headed "moderator" asking questions from USA Today readers (GOP talking point attacks, not questions) for 90 minutes. Very few opportunities for comprehensive rebuttals, nothing in depth at all. And the "show of hands" questions were fucking off the wall.

It was an unfair set up for all the candidates involved.

[LSK]

46. then dont complain about the shitty candidates come Nov 08

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. I never do

I avoid the Hall of Tomfoolery that is GD Politics and Campaigns as if it would give me the clap.

:-)

[live love laugh]

47. I'm right there with you on this. n/t

[Madspirit]

49. I didn't watch it

...because I had a pounding sinus headache and I KNEW I could find everything out I needed to know...at Democratic Underground...<g>
Lee

[pitohui]

53. well i didn't watch it either

there are several excellent candidates, it isn't that i don't care "one whit" but i've got other things on my plate besides watching a debate this far out from the primaries