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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:08 AM
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Tony Blair attacks Iraq Inquiry as part of Britain's 'obsession with conspiracy theories'
Bwahahahahahahaha!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249450/Iraq-War-Inquiry-Tony-Blair-attacks-conspiracy-theories.html

Tony Blair yesterday launched an extraordinary attack on the Iraq inquiry - as the chairman warned that he and others could be recalled over 'gaps' in their evidence.

In an outspoken interview in the U.S., the former prime minister dismissed the inquiry as part of a ' continual desire to sort of uncover some great conspiracy'.

Speaking on Fox News he said critics of the war were obsessed with conspiracy theories, and refused to accept that his motives were 'genuine'.

Asked about why the inquiry was being held he said: 'There's always got to be a scandal as to why you hold your view.

'There's got to be some conspiracy behind it. Some great, you know, deceit that's gone on, and people just find it hard to understand that it's possible for people to have different points of view and hold them reasonably for genuine reasons.'

His attack came as the chairman of the Iraq inquiry hinted that members of Mr Blair's government may have given misleading evidence or even lied.

(end snip)


'No regrets' Blair - feeling the frog march coming. :evilgrin:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:10 AM
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1. feet getting warm, Tony?
guess it wasn't such a hot idea to hitch your wagon to BushCo.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:12 AM
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2. Oh, I have no doubt that Blair's *true* motives were 'genuine'.
It's the lies he told to mask his true motives that are the problem.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:16 AM
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3. They were way too polite to him in his first appearance
Maybe I'm mistaking typical UK social behavior as "overly polite" but wow... I think they forgot he was the EX- Prime Minister. Even if he was the current Prime Minister, he got off way too easily.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:28 AM
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5. If you use twitter
Edited on Tue Feb-09-10 07:30 AM by dipsydoodle
then when the enquiry is running follow Tim Marshall of Sky's News.
http://twitter.com/itwitius We actually get that on our TV screens when the enquiry is being broadcast live which helps avoid talking over the proceedings.

As it runs he actually points out the important questions that are not being asked and makes some hilarious comments too. As Blair was leaving the enquiry he said suggested Blair say "thank you - you've been a very good audience but now I must leave you"

Yes Blair did get off far to easy - for the time being.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:36 AM
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7. thank you for the info nt
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:23 AM
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4. this is precisely why the term "conspiracy theory" is used so brazenly
its to marginalize people that are beginning to understand the truth
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:26 AM
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11. and notice he used the conspiracy line within 24hrs of court seeking testimony of Bushies.
Bushes and their spokespeople have used the 'conspiracy theorist' smear for decades. A CONGRESSMAN Richard Cheney smeared SENATOR Kerry as a 'conspiracy theory nut' in the mainstream press to distort Kerry's uncovering of IranContra and BCCI crimes.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:33 AM
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6. The only conspiracy theory
revolves around which of his parents was a rat.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:39 AM
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8. only one right thing to do
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:41 AM
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9. K & R
I would love to see Rachel Maddow interview him.


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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:51 AM
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10. Ah Tony, sometimes a conspiracy is just a conspiracy.
It's been clear for years now that you and the Bushite crowd lied and manipulated the data when you all didn't surpress it. That's a conspiracy.

The question is why. What did you hope to achieve?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:46 AM
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12. Funny how anyone who ascribes self-interested collusion to powerful people are tagged CTs
"....What's important here is the common perception people have of someone to whom that label is applied, and just as important, is who it is that applies the label. The common perception is that someone who is labeled a "conspiracy theorist" is suffering from some type of psychological disorder, and that label is usually applied to people by our government, and our news media. The next thing to consider, is that the label is applied to anyone who questions our government's version of events in any matter. Doesn't it logically follow that the media are teaching us to assume that anyone who questions the government is insane? When that label is applied to a person, doesn't it become easy to dismiss everything they say without even hearing it? How convenient for them.

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Conspiracy theories arise from evidence. After the government releases an explanation of a particular event, a conspiracy theory is only born because evidence exists to disprove their explanation, or at least call it into question. There's nothing insane about it, unless you define sanity as believing whatever the government tells you. In light of the fact that our government lies to us regularly, I would define believing everything they tell you as utter stupidity.

<snip>

The real question is not why people theorize about conspiracies, but why people choose to believe the government's version of events when it's obvious that they're lying." ~ Jolly Roger
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 02:45 AM
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15. It's just our job to cry "tinfoil"
Almost 1 in 5 of us here are COINTELPRO. And it works.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:24 AM
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16. I'm not much on physical organizing, so I doubt I'm of much interest to Big Bro, Inc
;)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:48 AM
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13. not an obsession tony, more like a duty. wish our leaders were as compelled.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 05:13 PM
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14. Bump
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:59 AM
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17. 'Conspiracies of Rich Men' to Commit War Crimes and Aggression
By Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy

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Bush would eventually become Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. At the time, many wondered what, precisely, was it that qualified Bush to head up the CIA, an agency that I have called 'World's Number One Terrorist Organization'. Despite his criticism of Reagan's “voodoo economics" , Bush became Reagan's running mate in 1980; by 1984, Bush had won acclaim for his devotion to Reagan's conservative agenda. Thus would espouse an utterly failed policy and one that he himself has opposed. Reagan's 'voodoo economics' caused a two year long recession, the deepest and most severe depression since Hoover's great depression of 1929. But that clearly did not matter to Bush Sr. He would hitch his wagon to whatever star was ascendant and, at the time, it was the ascendant Ronald Reagan who would preside over a 'conspiracy' to sell arms to Iran, which was, at the time, an officially declared enemy of the United States, a sponsor of world wide terrorism. This 'conspiracy' on behalf of rich men would then funnel the proceeds of those sales to the so-called Contras in Nicaragua. There is a word for this: high treason:

The Iran/contra investigation will not end the kind of abuse of power that it addressed any more than the Watergate investigation did. The criminality in both affairs did not arise primarily out of ordinary venality or greed, although some of those charged were driven by both. Instead, the crimes committed in Iran/contra were motivated by the desire of persons in high office to pursue controversial policies and goals even when the pursuit of those policies and goals was inhibited or restricted by executive orders, statutes or the constitutional system of checks and balances.

The tone in Iran/contra was set by President Reagan. He directed that the contras be supported, despite a ban on contra aid imposed on him by Congress. And he was willing to trade arms to Iran for the release of Americans held hostage in the Middle East, even if doing so was contrary to the nation's stated policy and possibly in violation of the law.

The lesson of Iran/contra is that if our system of government is to function properly, the branches of government must deal with one another honestly and cooperatively. When disputes arise between the Executive and Legislative branches, as they surely will, the laws that emerge from such disputes must be obeyed. When a President, even with good motive and intent, chooses to skirt the laws or to circumvent them, it is incumbent upon his subordinates to resist, not join in. Their oath and fealty are to the Constitution and the rule of law, not to the man temporarily occupying the Oval Office. Congress has the duty and the power under our system of checks and balances to ensure that the President and his Cabinet officers are faithful to their oaths.

--Lawrence Walsh, Special Prosecutor, Concluding Observations, FINAL REPORT OF THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR IRAN/CONTRA MATTERS

No one ever called Sr a 'conspiracy theorist'. That's because he was not a theorist; he was a 'conspirator' for real!

"I can perceive nothing but a certain conspiracy of rich men procuring their own commodities under the name and title of the commonwealth."- Sir Thomas More (1478 - 1535), Utopia, Of the Religions in Utopia

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2010/02/conspiracies-of-rich-men-to-commit-war.html
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:05 AM
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18. 'obsession with conspiracy theories' translate: please don't dig, I could end up in prison.
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