Anybody Tracking The Moyers Backlash ??? Here Ya Go... From CBS !!!

[WillyT]

Oh hell... explains it all right up front!



What Bill Moyers Got Wrong
Posted by Greg Kandra



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One of our favorite White House Correspondents, Mark Knoller, has filed his thoughts on Bill Moyers' controversial documentary on the press and the Iraq war.

Knoller is not impressed:

To hear Bill Moyers tell it last evening on his PBS program “Buying The War," the White House press corps was a willing participant in its own deception about the President’s case for war in Iraq.

He portrays us as easily-manipulated stooges on bended-knee to the President and his top aides.

Now, I’m the first to concede there are plenty of good reasons to criticize the White House Press. We’re an irascible and unlikable bunch. I’m one of us and I don’t like us very much. But the point made by Bill Moyers at the start of his program last night is just off base.

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Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/04/26/couricandco/entry2731112.shtml

And then this: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/04/26/publiceye/entry2730924.shtml

Hey Bill... I got your back... any day of the week!

:mad:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Sorry, Mr. Knoller, but

you ARE easily-manipulated stooges on bended-knee to the President and his top aides. The truth kinda sucks, doesn't it?

[jannyk]

6. I'll second that! eom

[Kikosexy2]

81. Hey Mr. Knoller...

if the media press was doing its job like it should, there wouldn't documentaries like this one on the air exposing truthiness...

[madokie]

43. yep the caught pig squeals first & the loudest

[hvn_nbr_2]

44. Wrong on one point--they weren't "manipulated"

"Manipulated" implies that they were somehow unknowingly or unwillingly tricked or deceived into doing what they did. They all did it completely willingly, eagerly even, completely consciously, and completely deliberately. No "manipulation" was needed.

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. True. nt

[Brundle_Fly]

54. one needs to look at the Knight Ridder articles

to see these Bozos... even you fatty stupid beard, were NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

[AverageJoe]

76. Yes, indeed

These folks are co-conspirators, not manipulated boneheads. Well, some of them are boneheads, too.

[PaulLev]

95. not "deliberately" but still a complete collapse of responsibility

"Deliberately" implies the press knew there were no WMDs. I think they failed to ask tough questions and do any real reporting - which led to the same atrocious results - but we have no evidence for "deliberately," do we?

[rhett o rick]

103. Good point. A staged press conference doesn't need manipulation. nm

[KurtNYC]

111. Good point. To paraphrase Katie Couric; "We aren't drinking the Kool Aid...

"We aren't drinking the Kool Aid...we ARE the Kool Aid."

(for clarity: COuric really did say "We aren't drinking the Kool Aid" and a fellow DUer clarified that with "she is the Kool Aid."

[StClone]

94. Somebody once said that sites like DU

"Was like a million typing monkeys." Funny how we got it mostly right about the the Iraq Invasion and the expert reporters got suckered into Bushworld. Stupid or lackey Mr. Knoller?

[WillyT]

2. Oh... And Also...

Teach Us to Pray
By Greg Kandra

"Lord, teach us to pray.” Are there any words in the Gospel more poignant than these? Here is a phrase that pulls us to the very core of belief—a request that cries out for consolation, instruction, guidance and hope. Throw us a lifeline, Jesus. We need help. Teach us to pray! After two millennia, this plaintive call continues to echo in the human heart. Give us the words. Help us find a way to express what we feel, honestly and humbly, and maybe—just maybe—allow us to glimpse the face of God. Teach us. Please.

I have struggled with prayer for most of my life. For some, it comes naturally, like a sneeze or a smile. Not for me. I have a hard time escaping the fact that I am inadequate to the task. I cannot help feeling that God is peering over my shoulder as I try to pray, and shaking his head in disbelief. You must be kidding, God says to himself. You call that praying? Give me a break!

For the past two-and-a-half years, my prayer muscles have been getting an arduous workout. I am in formation to become a permanent deacon. As a result, prayer is not a conscious, elective act anymore; it has by necessity become habitual. Candidates for the diaconate pray the Liturgy of the Hours every day. And we seek out whatever private moments we can to reflect and review, meditate and mull. But the words of the Gospel—teach us to pray!—seem more urgent to me now. How do we come to learn what seems at times so daunting? How do we dare to talk to God?

As children we begin—as the disciples began—by learning the words to a short, simple prayer. We memorize. We practice. Our Father who art in heaven. Or maybe it’s Now I lay me down to sleep. We hail Mary and give glory to the Trinity and learn, with small fingers, to finger small beads while walking in procession on a hot May morning.

Teach us to pray.

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Link: http://www.americamagazine.org/gettext.cfm?articleTypeID=9&textID=4249&issueID=535

PS: "Greg Kandra is story producer for the CBS News program “60 Minutes Wednesday” and a candidate for ordination to the permanent diaconate in 2007. Click here for a sample of author's writings in America and for books by author at amazon.com. Link to "sample writings" is slow; link to amazon may list books by authors with similar names."

:argh:

[Canuckistanian]

16. "Diaconate". Now there's a word you don't hear every day

di·ac·o·nate (d-k-nt, -nt)
n.
1. The rank, office, or tenure of a deacon.
2. Deacons considered as a group.

[anitar1]

27. Well, gee, Greg. happy ordination. You sound like

a real winner, not.One wonders if any of these "journalists" ever check a fact or leave their phone. I am not sure how they earned the title journalists. and I do not consider a news reader as anything except a news reader.I am glad I am not longer young. I had the pleasure of seeing and hearing real journalists earlier in my life. There are still some out there, but they are not on teevee . These guys are not fit to wipe Moyers shoes.

[formactv]

83. Take Off

Religion is 100% speculation.

[rusty charly]

3. in other words:

"Now, I’m the first to concede there are plenty of good reasons to criticize the White House Press. We’re an irascible and unlikable bunch. I’m one of us and I don’t like us very much. But the point made by Bill Moyers at the start of his program last night is just off base."

or

"I can't argue with anything he said, but, but, but... well... JEEEEZ!"

[baldguy]

4. How many times has Mr Knoller questioned the WH about, say - the Downing Street Memoes?

That's what I thought.

[blm]

42. How many times did CBS book Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel on their broadcast programs?

That would be ZERO, Mr. Knoller.

[AlCzervik]

5. ok Knoller than show us please where and when you did not kiss George's ring.

[Botany]

7. Please

Mr. Knoller bottom line you and yours got "it" wrong and help sell
us an unneeded war. The reporter from Knight Ridder w/ less staff
and lots less money had it figured out in Sept. of '02 Iraq had no
WMDs.

[Wiley50]

8. Fuck You, Knoller

You lying sack of shit

[StarryNite]

9. Lazy, lying, despicable

sack of shit. And let's not forget what cowards they all are.

[Ishoutandscream2]

10. They're scared shitless

It was put out on a national stage last night. Moyers' show got it right --the vast majority of the MSM was detrimental in their duties as the so called "Fourth Estate."

[Donnachaidh]

11. Lookie -- the press poodle is snarling at Bill Moyers!

Bad BAD press poodle!

He even looks like a badly coiffed Schnauzer. Hey Knoller -- ZZTOP is NOT a good look for anyone. Especially YOU. Now take your snausage and go back in your house. Woof! :sarcasm:

[wryter2000]

75. Snausage?

:rofl:

[WillyT]

12. Don't Forget To Check The Link At Post #2 !!!

:shrug:

[bleever]

26. I did, and

I'm glad.

:thumbsup:

[ncteechur]

13. Bill Moyers was right on target--they sold off imbedding in this war

to get journalists to run their game. They sold out like McCain did. They got lazy and therefore, became complicit.

Everyone talks about public education and what is wrong with it. As an educator, I would like to ask,

"What is the breakdown in today's schools of journalism? What has happened to challenging power, asking tough follow-up questions, and insisting on the truth? We need a NJLB Act (No Journalist Left Behind)."

Of course we know that they will all be reformed and do their jobs the minute a democratic president is elected.

[SoCalDem]

90. Nothing creeped me out MORE than the piece I saw about the "embed" training

All these so-called media types, running around with gas masks, camouflage & helmets.. grinning from ear to ear. they were LOVING the "pre embed training". It was like summer camp..

Miss Thing (Torie Clark) was beaming like a proud mom..

It was a thing of brilliance on their part.. Media who "in-bed" with the troops , form a fast and true bond with those people who feed them, and protect them, so the ,ilitary was pretty sure that the "correct" story would get out :puke:

[truedelphi]

92. Often the top journalists from places likeMedill

Go off to become Company Spokespeople for big corporations.

That way they can make a decent salary and pay off the hefty student loans that got them the journalism degree

The reporters that are given top byline status like Judith Miller for example are already a known quantity as in: the Agency will sign off on her references (The Agency being CIA)

[tblue37]

93. Complicit for many reasons, and laziness is probably

the least of them, though certainly it is part of the package.

Jack Welch used to brag about turning Russert from a liberal Dem to a right wing Republican. He said he did it with money--in other words, it was a buy out. Once Timmeh was making millions toeing the party line, he was forever lost to the truth.

Who can forget the little story about Timmeh giggling as he turned over his lapel while interviewing some administration figure--maybe it was Bush himself; I no longer remember and am too lazy to look it up--and flashing his Bush/Cheney '04 button?

[G_j]

14. Ha ha you are an easily-manipulated stooge, ha ha

what a joke Mark
unfortunately you already blew your right to be taken seriously by acting like an easily-manipulated stooge while the admin. scammed the US into a completely bullshit war. Hello! They lied to you over and over again... you couldn't be that stupid, could you?

you should be apologizing you sell out

[jobycom]

15. Knoller's basic argument is that they weren't compliant because they asked some tough-ish questions.

The job of a real journalist isn't to ask tough questions, it is to find tough answers. Asking "tough" questions that the president was expecting and had already scripted answers for, and then reporting those answers as though there was validity to them, without checking that validity, or, in many cases, reporting how many experts had already disproven those statements, isn't reporting. It's advertising.

An advertiser asks tough questions, and then nods as a self-serving wrong answer is given. Anyone who has watched late night infomercials knows that. The questions are the easy part, the answers are where the WHP rolled over.

[Canuckistanian]

17. Oh, stop it. You're being too logical.

There's a "new reality" at play here. The administration makes it own reality. As it goes along.

You see?

[jobycom]

18. I need education. I'm a bit old school when it comes to reality.

:)

[Canuckistanian]

19. Me too

:hi:

[loudsue]

30. Excellent point, jobycom!

"The job of a real journalist isn't to ask tough questions, it is to find tough answers."

Not to mention that the REAL job of journalists is to tell the people what their government is REALLY up to, so the people can be well informed enough to sustain a true Democracy!

:kick::kick::kick:

[salin]

36. if a tough question is asked ina a press conference, and no one writes about it

what good is it? Most of the public doesn't watch the press conferences. So if those questions and responses don't make it into the reporting - it is sort of like a tree falling in the woods.

[Gabi Hayes]

20. can't BELIEVE no recommends.....this is the quintessential example of

just HOW far gone these delusional stenographers have journeyed round the bend.

by far the most instructive bit of this tripe is the collection of very insightful responses to Knoller's rubbish, which focuses on only ONE instance. ONE!

and, as the most excellent Paul Lukusiak (sp?) points out, they didn't bother to check whether anything B* said at that charade of a press conference was true or not; merely transmitted what his lies to the clueless public

that fat cretin was a member of a strokathon on CSPAN a month or so ago, hosted by Tony Snow. other guests were David Gregory and Richard Wolffe, who sat with Tony and extolled the life of a WH correspondent! I'm not kidding

I posted a thread on this, and Glenn Greenwald wrote several columns on it, with great research, particularly WRT Wolffe's disgusting complicity over the last several years, including a VERY fawning Newsweek cover story in 05.

well worth looking up the readers' responses to Knoller's obscene rationalization, as well as Greenwald's assessment of the WH pansy corpse.

[jobycom]

22. I didn't Rec because I didn't want to Rec Knoller's comments, but now that there are so many

very insightful responses, I will.

One point, though. I'm not sure what you mean by Knoller citing only one instance. His full article cites eight or nine (I didn't bother to count), but it took a couple of clicks on links to find the full article. None of his examples showed followups or relevant rebutal, though.

[many a good man]

38. Here are the questions that were asked at that press conference:

courtesy of atrios

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_04_22_archive.html#7773687386801895442

[srulifsonmiles]

110. Woo, reminds me of my job

... as a deep embedded technocrat for the State oF Washington, Dept. of Chaos & Confusion. :-)

Love & Peace,
Somewhere, Somehow,
S.

[upi402]

21. MOYERS IS A PEARL BEFORE (media) SWINE

:mad:

[caty]

23. We are supposed

to count on the press to give us the true, unbiased news. We have learned over the last seven years that that we cannot count on that. However, I think it as made a lot of us more informed because we research the internet and news accounts from other countries to find out the truth. Isn't it a shame that I get more truth from reading European news reports than those in my own country.

[Triana]

24. Cry me a river, lamestream stooges!

[liam_laddie]

77. Whiner - best image this year! (IMHO) n/t

:toast:

[EVDebs]

25. Press swine at Bush's 'Where's the WMDs ?' dinner

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0TnqUlB4Gg

makes you want to barf.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. But but, but, you are easily manipulated stooges

that is why you are inside that bubble, and it hurts when it gets pierced huh?

[redacted]

29. What Bill Moyers got wrong: NOTHING!

[Polemicist]

31. Did Knollar "play act" like the rest of the WH press corp?

During that live press conference, by continuing to hold up their hands as if Bush was actually randomly choosing questions from the assembled press and not reading off a list of reporters names previously prepared for him in advance?

That's first degree groveling of a unrepentant sort. You don't get a second chance to get your dignity back after such a public humiliation. The press had a choice that day, to accept that farce of a news conference, or stand up to a manipulative and false Presidency.

They showed no guts and became play actors in that Presidential farce. And our nation is far worse off because they abdicated their role. Don't rationalize your behavior, national press, change it.

[Hubert Flottz]

34. The MSM were just Karl's props in that White House production...

Mindless drones and tools.

Edit...too stupid and narrow minded, to ever feel any guilt over all the dead in Iraq, but the blood is on their hands too.

[KharmaTrain]

39. That Conference In Question Was A Total Sham

I remember watching and thinking how staged everything was. It was "too perfect", stilted...the phony oozed off the screen. I think the toughest question his assholiness got that night was "how are you feeling?". The White House Press not only rolled over, they assumed the position and asked for more. It was one of the most horrendous displays of stenography ever. Everyone who participated knew the fix was in...they were just hoping to get some "face time" and stroke their egos. Also, anyone who dared to rock the boat was guaranteed a one way ticket to the Weekly Shopper.

Cheers...

[DKRC]

32. Moyers exposed Knoller's dirty little secret

only to Knoller. The rest of us have known the WHPC were as easily replaced as rolling a Xerox into the room with this administration.

We've seen real journalist's in our lives. Moyers reminded us last night of what it's like to sit down and watch truth on TV after years of scripted photo ops with our military used as so many props behind a giggling deserter.

I have more respect for Gannon than the mediawhores in the WHPC and ALL the network copy readers. At least while Gannon was playing at being a journalist he had a website openly advertising the services he had on offer to the WH.

[wellst0nev0ter]

33. Knoller, Did You Get Up And Leave

When Bush joked about the "press conference" being scripted? Were you offended by how your profession had been hijacked by a dangerous warmonger, or did you laugh along with all the deranged twits in the room?

No? Then STFU you whiny, shitsleeve titty-baby.

[skyblue]

35. Fact Checking - 101 All LIES!! How scary is that! Moyers is Right!

[seemunkee]

37. If they were such tough questioners

Then why did they not expose Gannon for so long? Why did they let him ask the softball questions and not wonder what his credentials were?

[progressoid]

40. "...easily-manipulated stooges on bended-knee to the President"...aaayup!

[leftchick]

41. check out this comment!

The one thing that Mr. Knoller gets right is that the press are "easily-manipulated stooges on bended-knee to the President and his top aides." The failure of US journalism did not end with the invasion of Iraq, it continues to this day. CBS and others still act as mouthpieces for Bush administration spin, and instead of spending the money and resources on true investigative reporting that would challenge Bush, they use cheap, sensational and profitable pundits and "he said/she said" pseudo-reporting that fails to inform us. There are a few heroes in the main stream media who still attempt to do true journalism, but their work is still being mostly buried in the back pages and ignored by CBS and others. I still read the NY Times and Wash Post to see how they relay the propaganda that Bush is putting out, but for real journalism, I read Glenn Greenwald, Josh Marshall, and ThinkProgress.

:applause:

[GeorgeGist]

45. I remember this guy's face from Moyer's show ...

he was one of those on Bush's script.

[Ganja Ninja]

47. Not "easily-manipulated stooges on bended-knee" but ...

starry eyed cheerleaders with pompoms waving.

[Smooth Operator]

48. to quote Big Daddy

in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof:

There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity...You can smell it. It smells like death.

Mr. Knoller you and most of the others in the White Press Corps didn't do your jobs which was to ask the hard questions and no go along to get along. A hit bird flutters.

[ananda]

49. I suspect that Moyers could have gone..

.. even farther and more scathing in his assessment
of the virtual criminality and whorishness of the press
to the rightwing corporofascist establishment.

Also, somebody should do a show on the effects of
media brainwashing on the young.. who have simply
bought the so-called "conservative' mindset and
propaganda that has been quote trickling down unquote
for the last twenty-five years.

Sue

[Uncle Joe]

50. I agree, I believe Moyers actually pulled his punches a little.

I thought the program to be excellent but incomplete, an ongoing mini series on this subject would be required to get it right.

For example when Al Gore gave his speech warning against the folly of going to war with Iraq. The mass corporate media could not bring them selves to cover the content of his speech. only that he was ranting or off his meds. Today his speech looks most prescient and I believe much blood, and anguish could have been avoided had they merely done their job and reported on the pros and cons of the actual speech to the American People. Instead they chose to dumb us down and take up where they left off from the nineties by more slander and trashing of his character when they enabled Bush to power to begin with.

[halobeam]

52. question

which Gore speech was that.. I'd love to read it.

[Uncle Joe]

53. Thanks for asking,

here is a link to the speech, which he gave at the Commonwealth Club in Sept of 2002. I would print some of it for you, but I'm running late for an appointment.

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09gore-speech.html

[LibDemAlways]

59. I agree. Moyers merely scratched the surface

of BFEE/media collusion by limiting it to some of what happened pre-Iraq war. A thorough investigation on the topic of how the media have become repuke lapdog sycophants would be a multi-part, ongoing series that would be an eyeopener for the vast majority of Americans - if you could figure out a way to get them to shut off American Idol and learn what's been happening to their country while they've been busy being dumbed down. Perhaps Moyers could hire some supermodels to strike poses in the background. (Not trying to be facetious, but getting people to pay attention is, IMO, a huge part of the problem.)

[Uncle Joe]

61. Regarding your last sentence.

"Perhaps Moyers could hire some supermodels to strike poses in the background. (Not trying to be facetious, but getting people to pay attention is, IMO, a huge part of the problem.)"

I believe the MCM is a self reinforcing mechanism through subliminal means, sort of like what came first the chicken or the egg? I sometimes wonder when a parent with a small child that you just meet, says out loud he or she is just shy, now this may be the case, but how much does the parent's words only reinforce the child's self image of being shy? To the child the parent figure is all knowing and omnipotent so if the parent says the child is shy, lazy, stupid etc. what else is a child to believe? I believe the mass corporate media treat the American People in the same manner, it's all what they focus on.

[LibDemAlways]

68. I have a friend who works for the CBS news affiliate in

Los Angeles, and asked him one day why the station wastes time and gobbles up whole "news" programs providing coverage of car chases. This happens frequently.

His response:"Because the ratings go up when we do it."

I think the chicken and the egg analogy is a good one. The media feeds people crap because they seem to enjoy it and become conditioned to expect it.

I think, however, that there is such a huge anti-intellectual bent on the part of so many people in this country, that anything perceived to be "educational" (like Moyers) is avoided like the plague. My late father-in-law wouldn't even congratulate his own son the day he graduated from college, because he distrusted "uppity people who think they're smart." That, I'm afraid, is the mentality of far too many people - and makes it even harder to get through to them.

[mantis49]

86. I haven't seent the Moyer show yet.

I have it recorded to watch this weekend, but I heard him on an interview on "Fresh Air" with Terri Gross last week. He came right out and called it collusion on her show. I'm looking forward to seeing the show.

[deutsey]

51. Sorry, moran, you're a bunch of overly paid, arrogant stenographers

:puke:

[kiteinthewind]

55. Hope everyone took a sec to email Mr. Moyers and let him know YOU

support him and "Buying the War" (hint, hint)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/about/feedback.html

:applause::patriot: :applause:

[Old Vet]

65. Done

When moyers speaks I listein.

[gillamonster]

56. Here is an idea...

for all of the media. Instead of trying to find a new story every chance you get, check the facts and get the truth before you rush the next "Breaking News" story out. It seems like the media is more concerned with having the "news" first as opposed to having the truth first. How about you stop asking questions that will just lead into several quotes you can use for your next opinion piece, that you have already formulated your opinion on, so you can prove how smart and "right" you are and stand out from the rest, just ask some tough questions, do some research, leave out your point of view, and let the American people decide on their own with the correct facts. Keep it up Moyer.

[valerief]

57. Walter Brennan was irascible. You, Mr. Knoller, are an evil whore. nt

[The Wizard]

58. One of the problems with lying

is that a lie has to be continuously expanded. The corporate media is slowly choking the life out of itself. Moyers just called them on their complicity.
He notified the media that we're tired of their Soviet style reporting.
Anna Nichole Smith dies, and that's all we get for a week.
Imus gets fired, and that's all we get for a week.
A young girl is missing in Aruba, and that's all we get for a month.
A pop singer goes into a rehab, and that's all we get for a week.
Sangia is off American Idol and on and on and on.
Articles of Impeachment are brought against a vicious, vile, mendacious, dissembling, prevaricating, war profiteering, treasonous Vice President, and there's no coverage.
The corporate media has outlived its usefulness by serving the corporate masters rather than the public good.
They're just mindless fops more concerned with playing reporters instead of doing the real work. Every time these jokers cash a paycheck they're committing fraud.
I believe it was Mark Twain who said the best part of telling the truth is that you don't have to think about it.

[Cameron27]

60. Bill Moyers is an honorable messenger

and they're not. Must be hard to look in the mirror, so they don't.

[liberal N proud]

62. All anybody would have to do is listen to the first 15 minutes

And the bu$h bull shit come through loud and clear. Bu$h proves the bull shit himself right on the taping of a "scripted" press conference. He said it was himself.

[slay]

63. If you White House Press Corps people would have done your job, Bill wouldn't have had to expose you

for the sell out, lying, lap dogs that you are - brown-nosing Bush and the Neo-Cons to the point of helping take the entire country to war!!! You fucking assholes! Bill Moyers is ten times the quality person you white house press corps people (except Helen Thomas) could ever hope to be. You and your fellow press corp "esteemed colleague" Jeff Gannon can go fuck yourselves. Nice company yall keep there in the "press corp". Sheesh. (Sorry for the language, but that's just how I feel. I apologize if I offended anyone. :mad: :grr:

[mdmc]

64. take it to the Colbert Report Greg Kandra!

[geardaddy]

66. Mr. Knoller

1863 called, it wants its hair and beard back.

[Monk06]

107. Now that is just damn funny. Objectively, irrefutably funny. He has a fake comb over?????

[ReadTomPaine]

67. I'm so glad Moyer's hit a nerve...

Knoller may not want to admit it, but his defensive posture and the fact that he replied at all means Moyer's has made his point.

:thumbsup:

[saltpoint]

69. Regrettably for Knoller, Bill Moyers is the best analyst around. Possibly the

best ever. Nothing CBS News has put up in my lifetime matches what Moyers can do in a couple of hours.

I believe Moyers got it right.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

70. One of the few people at CBS who was worth a damn was Dan Rather & they fired him.

n/t

[blm]

73. They set him up to be fired - he was impeachmented - like Clinton - like Gore -

like Dixie Chicks - like Kerry. BushInc lied and they and their mediawhores set up Democrats and influential voices to take the falls for BushInc lies.

[Monk06]

108. I think that Buckhead of FR fame composed the phony NG records and set Rather up.

[misanthrope]

85. Rather had grown lazy and complicit...

...over the years. He loved the whiff of fame and self-importance and was hoisted on his own petard by ignoring "trust, but verify." It's no one fault but his own.

[LibertyorDeath]

71. The Graphic of Couric

Makes me want to :puke: :puke:

As for Knoller he can fuck off and die along with the rest

White House stooge stenographers.

[illinoisprogressive]

72. I have not heard any backlash - because the msm are so embarassed probably.

[Riverman]

74. Never heard of this Corporate Lap Dog! I stopped watching CBS

When Danny Boy said on Letterman when the Iraq Oil War started that he was a patriot first and a "jouralist" later when the country goes to war! When they fired him I only felt sad that the young reporter who confronted Nixon had lost his way in the corrupting corporate media world. Now with Couric it is the ultimate manifestation of the new corporate facism that will not be evident by ugly men in dark uniforms and racist attacks and street violence, but thru smiling colorful TV news babes daily presenting happy talk stories to explain (lie)about the apparent violence of oil and market wars being actually good for you! While they of course divert the attention of the sheeple to the real news stories of the day - Anna Nicole, Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, a missing blond, and American Idol. :>)

Moyer's, bless him, has the strength of character to not sell his soul to the corporate devil! The world needs thousands more such true journalist who are willing and able to speak truth to power.

[happydreams]

78. For the life of me I don't know why Moyers didn't mention

Gannongate and other sordid Bushie control of the media.

[formercia]

79. The same "Navy SEALS rock!" Couric?

Argh!

[yella_dawg]

80. It is said that you can be too stupid to realize you're stupid...

too socially inept to realize you're socially inept, an so on for a wide variety of personal shortcomings and weaknesses.


But can you be so much an "easily-manipulated stooge on bended-knee to the President" that you don't realize you're an easily-manipulated stooge on bended-knee to the President???

[ooglymoogly]

82. Greg Kandra you ignorant slut

If you can't understand the truth at least get your rug straight. And dear smarmy cutesy KKKKaty what can I say, you are a Lucifersend from the burning depths of....well..."MSM" (so called by...well, the MSM)

[neuvocat]

84. I wonder if he's been to Egypt

because its like he's a been in a da Nile.

Heh.

[jackstraw45]

87. Listen to Knoller on CBS radio...HUGE Bushco STOOGE

Ugh, I always change the radio station when he does his reports from the White House for CBS radio. He is the CLASSIC Bushco whore - always reporting the "party line" for the administration.

[blm]

105. This is the result of over 20 years of GOPs buying control of broadcast media

throughout the 80s and 90s.

And Democrats sit around and blame each other when they are slammed in the media instead of taking the media head on as a UNIFIED EFFORT.

[Little Wing]

88. Is that Jeff Gannon in a wig and fake mouthpiece?

[Dr Fate]

89. Whatever, Fur-face. No one believes a word you guys say anymore. I believe Moyers. n/t

n/t

[EndElectoral]

91. Moyers for President....A man of truth and integrity for a change

[still_one]

96. Then how come the "other" side which said there were no WMDs and Iraq linked to AQ never came OUT!

There was only view presented in this country by YOU and your associates during the call to war

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

97. OK, OK, they're not easily mislead stooges.

They knew what they were doing and were compliant from the beginning.

What was wondering from the documentary- what was Moyers doing in 2002, 2003?

[WillyT]

101. This...

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOW_with_Bill_Moyers

:shrug:

[benld74]

98. Just Say 'We resemble that remark', and call it even, you so called journalistic HACK

[The_Casual_Observer]

99. That stupid fuck was shown front & center during jr's bogus press conf.

Caught with his pants down. No wonder he's squealing like a pig.

[JTG of the PRB]

100. Ha! It is to laugh! Har har!

The MSM is a JOKE, and the fact that anybody there could even be REMOTELY insulted by Moyers' accurate assessment is the biggest laugh I've had all day!

HA! Har de har har, hahahahahahahah! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahem.

I honestly did laugh out loud when I read that Moyers was being so harshly criticized by some people. I think I spooked the dog, because THAT'S how loud I laughed. The MSM is pathetic. Just pathetic.

[Morgana LaFey]

102. Wow, aquart had a great response in the comments

first page (of 16 so far) too. Way to go, aquart!

[Cha]

104. That's right, Bill Moyers is calling you

press stenographers out on your lazy,, on your knees, phoning it in.

DIG DEEPER, YOU TREASONOUS ASSWIPES. History will and is bearing out what Moyers reports. You aren't gonna be Carl Bernstein or Daniel Ellsberg.. that's for darn sure.

[Monk06]

106. The only rebel in the WHPC is Helen. The rest are a bunch of toothless egg sucking seat warmers.

[Warren DeMontague]

113. "Gosh, Mr. President... Is the War on Terror Great, or is it just Swell?" nt

[whistle]

109. Right, pretty accurate description by Moyers on all counts

[Warren DeMontague]

112. The fact that his head is directly under Katie Couric's sez it all.

Yep. Today's Corporate Media- real Profiles in Fearless Journalistic Integrity. :eyes:

Oh, and dude, you've got what looks to be a dead ferret on your face.

[NoSheep]

114. Can you believe this ass-wipe even tried to defend himself? The mind reels.

[young_at_heart]

115. Mr. Knoller, was this off base too....."How does your faith help you"?

Bill showed the 'pretend press conference' before the invasion, with the already chosen questioners and one women asked him something about his faith guiding him. Pretty softball, if you ask me.

[mdmc]

116. kick