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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:16 PM
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Palin running 2012?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/07/palin-willing-obama/

OK kids, who did not see THIS coming when she left Anchorage?

And I already hear some people saying "It's not like she will have a chance to win."

To that, let me add two points:

ONE: the nation that elected W. not once, but TWICE!, is capable of anything.

TWO: Even if she is merely a feint to allow someone like Mitt Romney or Scott Brown in, that is deadly enough! The nicest, most RINO republican is going to get wined, dined, and bribed until they are to the right of Limbaugh, and if that fails, Dick Cheney, the REAL power, will make sure that so and so suffers a few "mishaps." until they are either a puppet or a corpse.

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JKaiser Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:17 PM
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1. I wish Hillary would run for president in 2012
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:25 PM
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2. Why, so that the left can kill her?
The far left is angry because Obama has tried to be too bipartisan, in other words, because he appointed a bunch of CLINTON hacks to power, and triangulates like CLINTON.

And as far as her being a "fighter", yes, she would fight, for her Mandates, and for her "friends" like John McCain.
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LucasD Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:23 PM
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20. I would love to...
... say something incredibly intelligent and eloquent about why the people of
this country will vote her into office, but based upon what I have heard from
my repuke friends since Palin started getting publicity, it will simply be because...
and I quote.. "she's a total MILF." Yes, the majority of voters are that superficial.


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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:27 PM
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3. I'll be supporting President Obama.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:35 PM
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4. If this moronic woman considers running in 2012...
the rest of this country should be running SCARED for our future as an intelligent power.

I don't agree with her politics or her stand on...well, hell, just about anything...but if she were the least bit intelligent, I could deal with that.

She isn't.
She's a joke.
Just how far this joke will go is anyone's guess.
The last joke we had in office nearly destroyed us.

And you can already hear the puppeteers practicing their performance skills behind the red velvet curtains.


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:45 PM
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5. You betchya
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:46 PM
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6. I'm not saying she couldn't win BUT
she would not be as much of a problem as some of the other potential GOP candidates.

Sure, she would rally the 'base' but I really don't see independents or even moderate Republicans warming up to her all that much.

It might just remind some of the notorious 'swing voters' why they voted for Obama in the first place.
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:47 PM
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7. Yes...Sarah Palin is the "stalking horse"......
.....and IMO Democrats WON'T see it coming.

Sarah Palin is gathering her following from the Teabaggers, Fundamentalists Christians, followers of Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reielly etc. They are disgustingly loyal to her. When the time is right she will switch her support to.......(are you sitting down?) Liz Cheney. IMO Sarah Palin is "merely a feint" for Liz Cheney. (Daddy would love Liz to be the FIRST woman president.)

Liz will always appear..... (with Daddy pulling the strings).... ANYWHERE they will have her. Dick/Liz Cheney will NEVER get the Teabagger support, AND they know it! A deal will be made farther down the road.... and Palin will support Liz.....after adequate deal-making takes place. Liz will take over....(intellectually), where Sarah fails. And of course, once again, Dick Cheney will be in charge.

Is this a far-fetched idea? I hope we don't wait too long to find out.

Just my opinion.:hide:
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:51 PM
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8. I've always said she's a red herring, a throwaway candidate
to be used until she's no longer needed
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:55 PM
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9. Yes, Sarah is the red herring/stalking horse...hope we all know this. nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:08 PM
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11. When you consider how good Dems are at falling asleep at the wheel, I'd be tempted
to put money on that bet.

The Democrats have a brilliant and reliable track record of not seeing "it" coming. Massachusetts is only the latest in a LONG line.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:15 PM
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14. Martha Coakley had a 30 point lead on Scott Brown after the primaries.
Clearly, Massachusetts is ideologically closer to her than they are to him.

Did she protect that lead? No. SHE WENT ON VACATION.

Stop blaming the DNC for something that was the candidate's fault, and I'd appreciate it if everyone else stopped shitting on Massachusetts because people here responded to the guy that actually worked to get their votes. Yes, Scott Brown is a raging douchebag--but he campaigned like he wanted it. Martha Coakley did not.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 06:35 PM
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17. Precisely my point. And she didn't see it coming. She assumed she had it in the bag.
And yeah, she didn't work for it or try to protect it. She didn't see "it" (as in Scott Brown vowing to work for it). And neither did the DNC, evidently. Did anybody - anywhere within Democratic circles, with all the resources, brain-power, ground-gamers, strategizers, tactical specialists, pollsters and poll analysts and wind-testers at their disposal, even try to get to her and shake her awake and tell her to get out there and meet people and work for it - BEFORE the last weekend before the election? I'm afraid the DNC and Dems in general are going to do, yet again, what I've seen manifested in a pattern over many years: underestimate the enemy. Okay, I'll dial it back a little and say - underestimate the opposition.

In some cases the opposition is the opposing party or opposing candidate or opposing view-holder. In some other cases it's, in effect, the general population. They become the opposition when they look to the here-and-now and don't consider a longer view, either toward the future or from back in the past. If the voters of Massachusetts knew Coakley was more in step with their views - and they STILL went ahead and gave their hearts to the fast-talker who sped up on the inside lane and snatched away her lead. When she wasn't looking. george w bush and dick cheney wanted it too. So did sarah palin and john mcsame. And they fought for it. Doesn't mean they deserve the job. It's what they stand for that counts.

My point was - nobody's paying much attention anymore! There's still too much of a tendency among too many Dems (and I'll include Obama in this) to give too much benefit of the doubt, to assume the loftiest of the people they're trying to reach. Sometimes, in the real world, you just can't afford to do that. Sad but true. It's wrong and short-sighted and naive to assume that "the American people will recognize a liar when they see one. The American people will understand. They'll know what's true and what isn't. They'll know what's right. NO. That's the problem right there. They do NOT. Not anymore. Not since the rise of limbaugh and Pox Noise and the rest of the machinery that keeps pumping out unchecked and unchallenged propaganda so there's only one view that ever gets heard. And people start to believe what they hear if it's pushed at them 24/7 with little or nothing to push back against it and counter-act it. Viewers of Pox, among other outlets, are being trained to accept everybody on Pox Noise as truth-tellers, even though they're anything but. Obama and friends are still assuming they're working with ladies and gentlemen, and people who believe in playing by the rules. That's not who's sitting across the table anymore.

Our side tends to take so much for granted:

Assuming the republi-CONS really do want to work in a bipartisan manner.
Assuming the people will remember who ran up the debt in the first place.
Assuming the people will understand who's really on their side.
Assuming that a D is a D is a D when you're recruiting more Dems to run for office, and wind up like Rahm Emmanuel did, with a bunch of pig-headed, short-sighted Blue-Dogs crapping all over the House and Senate.
Assuming people won't be fooled by bumper-sticker politics.
Assuming that if you just tell everyone the truth, that'll be that, game over, and everyone will know it's the truth and no one will dispute it or try to pervert it or misrepresent it.
Assuming that the people do vote in their own best interests.
Assuming that people will believe you who speak out a few times in a month instead of the lying asshole spewing his lies three hours a day, Monday through Friday, with reruns and "best-of's" on weekends.
And assuming that, even when you're in a position to do something about that last one - that there's really no reason to do so.

I could go on with that list but it just gets tiresome. But the problem is - we're losing ground all over the place. Health care reform. A woman's right to choose. I see a wide-ranging, broad-based dropping-of-the-ball, falling asleep at the wheel, taking too much for granted, while the people and forces we're up against have remained vigilant and been at it for at least three decades in a concerted effort to take over. Even while they're loudly playing victim all over the place.

Seems to me there's plenty of blame to go around - to ANYONE who isn't vigilant, to ANYONE who doesn't pay attention, to ANYONE who just chooses to accept something at face value rather than vetting it. To ANYONE who doesn't keep their guard up all the time.

Maybe I'm just in a really pessimistic mood today. Sorry about that. The news lately has just really been getting to me.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:12 PM
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18. Palin ain't sneakin up on nobody.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:23 PM
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19. I hope you're correct.
I'd much rather you be correct than me be correct on this one.
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:15 PM
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15. Must be on to something! The "unrecommender" is lurking.
:rofl:
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 05:30 PM
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16. Not at all
The problem is, that as much as Dick may think he has the teabaggers under control, he does not, which means that they can run over him and Liz and put Palin in.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:05 PM
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10. She is being pumped by the behind the scenes rethugs who
are setting her up as another malleable idiot like ****. They will then be in a position to give the orders to the the "president" which he/she will have no option but top follow. Too stupid to do otherwise. I believe the word for them is "puppet"

Both **** and Palin believe they have a brain, Shocking news to both, you are idiots.

Bet my IQ against either of them that I could do better but I recognize I am too ill informed and not intelligent enough for the job.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:09 PM
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12. Nope. Just getting stinking rich until then.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:10 PM
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13. She is going after the money

I doubt she ever runs but she is smart enough to know that she could never debate against Obama.

She may be uneducated but she is no fool.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:20 AM
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21. she does not need to
She can make the biggest blunders in the History of the English language, ones that made W. seem like Laurence Olivier in comparison to her, and the media will say VICTORY!
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