Man Denied French Citizenship Because Wife Wears Veil

[LynneSin]

You know, I respect that in the Muslim faith that some women may be required to wear something over their head - but most of the time it is non-restrictive. Outside of the hair being covered the woman can still function normally. But sorry, the Burqa is nothing more than a form of domestic abuse. I'm glad the French denied this guy's citizenship. No woman should be forced to be covered so completely that it impairs her sight and ability to move. Hell if I was the French government I'd offer the woman help in escaping that horrible marriage!

Man Denied French Citizenship Because Wife Wears Veil
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/03/man-denied-french-citizen_n_446713.html

A Moroccan man has been denied French citizenship because he demanded his French wife wear a full-face Islamic veil, Reuters reports.

"It emerged during the inquiry and the interview process that this person forced his wife to wear the full veil, deprived her of freedom of movement with her face exposed and rejected the principles of secularism and equality between men and women," France's Immigration Minister Eric Besson said in a statement Tuesday.

France's Le Figaro newspaper obtained a copy of the ruling, which has also been published in English by The Guardian:

"Monsieur X displays in an everyday manner a discriminatory attitude towards women, going as far as refusing to shake their hands and advocating the separation of boys and girls including, at home, of brothers and sisters," the ruling read.

"The lifestyle he has chosen may be justified by religious precepts but is incompatible with the values of the Republic, notably the principle of equality of the sexes."

[vadawg]

1. when in france do as the french do,

[Democrat_in_Houston]

2. Good!

Last I noticed, citizenship in France is not an automatic right.

[Deep13]

3. France has a pro-secular policy.

They are not nuetral the way the 1st Amendment is.

[Jim__]

4. In this case, I agree with you.

What if the woman saw wearing the veil as a religious duty, a duty she freely accepted. Do you think she and her husband should be rejected for Franch (or American) citizenship?

[theoldman]

5. Does anyone know what the law is in the US?

All I have ever seen in North Texas is a headscarf.

[slackmaster]

11. Head scarves are legal in the USA as long as you refer to them as "do-rags"

[Romulox]

6. Good for France (and *Islam* does not require a burka; some Arab cultures do...) nt

[LynneSin]

7. and thank you for the correction

I assumed incorrectly with the usage fo the Burqa

[14thColony]

17. And some Persian cultures as well

It's quite the hit among the Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A hit among the male Pashtuns at least.

[dugaresa]

8. Why does Monsieur X want to live in a country where women are considered equals?

I have met men like Monsieur X here in the US, men who were raised to view women as objects. One man in particular had a fit when he found out I was the only expert available to him, I was very offended by his shitty behavior.

[aquart]

9. His FRENCH wife? What bloody nerve of him.

There are, however, Christian and Jewish sects not far behind him. NO patriarchal religion really believes in equality of the sexes.

[slackmaster]

10. So, she's denied French citizenship because her husband denies her some liberty

Ha ha, that's very logical.

:crazy:

[cali]

13. she is French

[dkf]

14. She is already a citizen of France.

[kiva]

12. Good - France is refusing to accept religious fundamentalism.

Unfortunately we encourage it by accepting people like the German family who sought asylum in the US - the parents said they wanted to homeschool their children because textbooks used in school violated the family's religious beliefs; they weren't allowed to pull their kids from school in Germany, but are apparently being welcomed in the US. Give us your delusional, fundy crazies.

[Maat]

18. Yes, whatever the United States of America is about ...

it's certainly not about honoring fundamental rights, such as the U.S.-Supreme-Court-recognized right-to-parent and the right to determine how one's child is educated, or about the FREEDOM OF CHOICE. It's certainly not a place in which we welcome refugees from oppression.

Let's be tyrannical and have our government tell people how to live within narrow confines. It's for their own good. Let's only admit people who agree with our values.

:sarcasm:

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. HuffPo's headline is extremely misleading

He wasn't denied citizenship because his wife wore a veil. He was denied citizenship because he demanded his wife wear a veil.

It's like saying that people don't like OJ Simpson because his ex-wife passed away.

[Better Today]

16. "this person forced his wife to wear the full veil," ... are you kidding

me? In France a woman can be "forced" by her husband. Seems to me that the French are disrespecting the woman. Now I agree if she were in an arab country, but in France she can choose to leave him.

That being said, I'm glad they disallowed simply because in this day and age (of suicide bombs, etc) NO ONE should be allowed to be covered to the point of a complete inability to be identified when in public.