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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:45 PM
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Jesus Ground Zero........

Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

Dead grass, dark streets

But the 2010 spending choices are complete, and local residents and businesses are preparing for a slew of changes:

• The steep parks and recreation cuts mean a radical reshifting of resources from more than 100 neighborhood parks to a few popular regional parks. The city cut watering drastically in 2009 but "got lucky" with weekly summer rains, said parks maintenance manager Kurt Schroeder.

With even more watering cuts, "if we repeat the weather of 2008, we're at risk of losing every bit of turf we have in our neighborhood parks," Schroeder said. Six city greenhouses are shut down. The city spent $19.6 million on parks in 2007; this year it will spend $3.1 million.

"If a playground burns down, I can't replace it," Schroeder said. Park fans' only hope is the possibility of a new ballot tax pledged to recreation spending that might win over skeptical voters.

• Community center and pool closures have parents worried about day-care costs, idle teenagers and shut-in grandparents with nowhere to go.

Hillside Community Center, on the southeastern edge of downtown Colorado Springs in a low- to moderate-income neighborhood, is scrambling to find private partners to stay open. Moms such as Kirsten Williams doubt they can replace Hillside's dedicated staff and preschool rates of $200 for six-week sessions.

"It's affordable, the program is phenomenal, and the staff all grew up here," Williams said. "You can't re-create that kind of magic."

Shutting down youth services is shortsighted, she argues. "You're going to pay now, or you're going to pay later. There's trouble if kids don't have things to do."

• Though officials and citizens put public safety above all in the budget, police and firefighting still lost more than $5.5 million this year. Positions that will go empty range from a domestic violence specialist to a deputy chief to juvenile offender officers. Fire squad 108 loses three firefighters. Putting the helicopters up for sale and eliminating the officers and a mechanic banked $877,000.

• Tourism outlets have attacked budget choices that hit them precisely as they're struggling to draw choosy visitors to the West.

The city cut three economic-development positions, land-use planning, long-range strategic planning and zoning and neighborhood inspectors. It also repossessed a large portion of a dedicated lodgers and car rental tax rather than transfer it to the visitors' bureau.

"It's going to hurt. If they don't at least market Colorado Springs, it doesn't get the people here," said Nancy Stovall, owner of Pine Creek Art Gallery on the tourism strip of Old Colorado City. Other states, such as New Mexico and Wyoming, will continue to market, and tourism losses will further erode city sales-tax revenue, merchants say.

• Turning out the lights, literally, is one of the high-profile trims aggravating some residents. The city-run Colorado Springs Utilities will shut down 8,000 to 10,000 of more than 24,000 streetlights, to save $1.2 million in energy and bulb replacement.

Hansen, the criminal-justice student, grows especially exasperated when recalling a scary incident a few years ago as she waited for a bus. She said a carload of drunken men approached her until the police helicopter that had been trailing them turned a spotlight on the men and chased them off. Now the helicopter is gone, and the streetlight she was waiting under is threatened as well.

"I don't know a person in this city who doesn't think that's just the stupidest thing on the planet," Hansen said. "Colorado Springs leaders put patches on problems and hope that will handle it."



Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473#ixzz0eJc1WnZh
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:58 PM
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1. A world without socialism
Isn't it grand? It's it beautiful?
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:01 PM
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2. What exactly does Jesus have to do with this monumental stupidity? n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:05 PM
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5. Colorado Springs is the Christian right's headquarters
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:31 PM
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7. Yes. . .and I bet the lights are not dimmed in their expensive churches!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:40 PM
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12. No way! Jesus needs lots of light to see the collection plate!

:hi:
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:27 PM
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6. SSShhh!! Don't let logic interfere with The Agenda(tm) n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:40 PM
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19. ?
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 04:42 PM by Javaman
perhaps you are missing the logic of people using religion to further their own personsal agenda.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:55 PM
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21. Which completely was NOT what the story of the OP was about.
But do go on and prove my point.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 09:24 AM
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22. ? again
you brought it up, not me.

Whatever.

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:04 PM
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3. Try visiting Europe sometime. The cities shut down at night. Oh noes!
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:34 PM
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8. Are you kidding???
Only small town shut down at night! And even then, there are always a couple of bars open with their lights shining on a quiet little square!

In fact, in Belgium, the highways are so brightly lit, that it is one of the two areas that is seen by satellite (the other is the great wall of China!). . .
Yes, they have reduced their consumption of energy by turning off about one out of every three lights on the highways. . .they are still brighter than ANY big highways in America!

And the night life in even medium size towns could rival any big American towns!

Where did you visit??? Bosnia????
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:42 PM
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14. My customers are people from all over Europe from which I have gathered my info.
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 03:44 PM by L0oniX
Most of them are performing musicians who would know about the subject.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:53 PM
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15. Well, I have lived in 4 European countries and
travelled and vacationed extensively in another 6 European countries

and this is ABSOLUTELY NOT my experience! In fact, this is one thing that always annoys my friends and family when they visit the U.S.. . .it is the lack of nightlife in the U.S. as soon as one leaves the large cities!

And, by the way, I have also lived in 4 different States in the U.S. and visited and vacationed in another 24 States.
I think your friend needs to go see for himself, or change customers!!!!

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:04 PM
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16. Anyone can say anything on DU ...and no one has to believe it.
Of course many will childishly lower themselves to insulting one another.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:08 PM
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17. Yes, you are doing a good job proving your point!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:35 PM
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10. I don't know... from what I can remember of my time in Amsterdam
I was up pretty late every night :)
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 04:11 PM
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18. I bet you were! It's kind of hard to go to bed when the city is still having fun at 2:00 am!
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:03 PM
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20. Really?
I've lived in Europe for the last 12 years now. I guess I hadn't noticed...let me check...

Ok, just had a look outside...10pm and still pretty well-lit even in a small rural town...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:04 PM
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4. Ah that libertarian heaven comming to a town near you
GOOD. Perhaps then they will finally get it. Don't get me wrong, but all is fluffy theory until it happens.

And yes it will cut unfairly to the less to do, but how many times we have said that people won't get it until they call 9.11 and nobody answers?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:38 PM
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11. 911 will be a for sale service
Edited on Mon Feb-01-10 03:38 PM by Hydra
and with optional Blackwater upgrade in case you need to get rid of "trespassers."
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:35 PM
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9. I'd rather be homeless than live in Colorado Springs.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:40 PM
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13. Amen to that.
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