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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:18 AM
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Could the Congress Define Personhood?
Were it possibly to get the votes for a Joint Resolution of Congress would a properly worded resolution be sufficient to derail the recent Supreme Court decision regarding campaign donations? Couldn't the Congress simply state that in all laws written by them the intent is that the law be read such that a person is a thing with blood in its veins and lives and breaths, or once did?
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:20 AM
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1. I don't think it could be a resolution
or a law - I think it would have to be a Constitutional amendment, which won't happen.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:23 AM
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2. An amendment effort though would be good strategy whether
successful or not. We gained better law and legal protections in the effort to ratify the ERA.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:26 AM
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3. I don't see how the 'effort' could change established law
Its not like politics in the sense that the court can't control what cases come to it to fit the public mood. Elected officials might respect a large public effort, but seated judges not only can't, but even if they could they should not. Law needs to be more stable than that. And maybe that's the flaw in my idea. Maybe even allowing the congress to set the rules sucks, because like Massachusetts and the Governor appointment thing, its just not good policy to flip flop.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:32 AM
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7. The effort creates strategies for new legal strategies and law attempts.
If you have a bad law, new laws can be attempted to rectify the damage, whether on the federal or the state levels.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:28 AM
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4. If it can declare humans to be property and corporations to be persons
it can declare what a person is for urposes of legal protection and liability.

It does not require a constitutional amendment, just constitutional review.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:31 AM
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5. It would be pointless
to pass a law defining personhood knowing that the law would be overturned by the Supreme Court. A waste of time and effort.

A Constitutional amendment can't be overturned by the court, so it's really the only way to overcome the recent decision.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:34 AM
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8. The law can't be overturned if it's constitutional.
For purposes of applicability, the definition is well within Congress' powers.
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:31 AM
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6. Congress would do really well to tread carefully when defining personhood
I fear the consequences for reproductive choice.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:35 AM
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9. Very good point!
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:44 AM
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10. they have , a person is a corporation of 5000 employees or more.
anything less simply cannot support lobbyist and there for have no rights.
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