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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:50 PM
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President Obama and True Value
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:27 PM by MichaelHarris
Write the True Value headquarters until I can verify it also sells Ace stuff.

Yesterday I went into True Value in Clarkston, Washington looking for a gun bluing kit for an 1851 Colt Navy revolver that I'm building. No, this is not a gun post, I could have been looking for duct tape. This post is one of the reasons I'll never support the NRA or any other Second Amender.

When I got past the fishing section and into the hunting section there was a 6 foot revolving display of bumper stickers. Every single one of them had violent hate filled messages about our President. Some even had gun sights superimposed over his face. I normally have a camera with me but I didn't today. There were over 150 stickers and each one had a different vile message.

Above the revolving rack there was a large sign that read, "If these messages offend you then GOOD! Maybe it's time you read the Constitution again, especially the second one." I told the manager, after I dropped the items I was going to purchase in the middle of the floor, that I have read the constitution and no where in it did I see the President depicted as a pimp or a monkey. I also mentioned the fact that depictions of the President, any President, with rifle scopes aimed at them could be construed as a threat. I know the Constitution gave someone the right to make those stickers with those messages just as it gave me a right, ergo the reason for this post.

I will exercise that right now. Please join me in a letter writing campaign to the corporate offices of True Value voicing your concerns over threats and racial depictions of our President. Just as they have the right to print the hate-filled messages, we must exercise our right to not shop at ANY True Value. From the Corporate website:

http://truevaluecompany.com/home/flash.asp
we've created a compelling shopping experience for consumers

It seems the one in Clarkston is owned by a bigot and hate-monger who wants to promote fear and sell bullets.

http://truevaluecompany.com/home/flash.asp
we've created a compelling shopping experience for consumers


Other Contacts

Media interviews
Contact True Value Company's media relations group at 312-240-2882.

Logo and image requests
Rose.Lascio@truevalue.com or 773-695-5367

Merchandising Department contacts
Suppliers can contact Erika.Sandilands@truevalue.com or 773-695-5544.

Market exhibitor information
For information about our Rental, Spring or Fall Market, contact Maureen.Feck@truevalue.com or 773-695-5171.

Media sponsorship opportunities
Groups or organizations extending media sponsorship opportunities may submit their request via email to teresa.chou@edelman.com.

True Value Company World Headquarters at 773.695.5000.

The store is:
Schurman's True Value Hardware
801 6th Street
Clarkston, WA 99403-2097
(509) 758-6411

Send a message to True Value and the companies who supply them a message, THREATS and BIGOTRY will not be tolerated against the President of the United States. Tell your local True Value you will not shop at their store until this practice is stopped. Please provide this information to any source or media outlet you can think of.

Thank you,
Michael Harris
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:54 PM
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1. Highly recommend, and I will be writing a letter. This needs to be seen
by everyone!

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:55 PM
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2. That store is a franchise owned/operated by someone other than Ace Hardware.
Now you can suggest to Ace they should stop supplying that particular store or pull the license or some such.

I would probably just make a quiet phone call to the FBI about that one bumpersticker.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:02 PM
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7. It is privately owned but
the question becomes, does Ace want to be associated with this message? Do they want their corporate logo tied to this message?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:13 PM
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18. Thanks, a letter to Ace should be polite and just alerting them to the problem. Got it!
I am glad you took your business elsewhere.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:56 PM
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3. ACE's contract with the local franchisee may limit their ability to control what he sells.
:shrug:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:05 PM
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9. Yes, I shop at my local Ace hardware all the time
There are actual people there to help you and are knowledgeable, as opposed to Home Depot. I've never seen anything like this in that store, and I've been going there since I was a kid with my dad.

I would stop shopping there if there was something like that.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:06 PM
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10. The one by me is fantastic.
The prices are reasonable, the staff is helpful, the store is squeaky clean. They definitely don't have anything like that at all either.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:57 PM
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4. It's absolutely crazy when you consider that Obama hasn't done anything
to provoke those bastards. Nothing except of course, be the wrong color.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:10 PM
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15. promoting the fear sell
more bullets.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 07:58 PM
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5. k&r
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:02 PM
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6. Was that Early Bird Supply or Shermans?
I was right by there yesterday. If I would have seen this then I would have went in and got a pic for you. I know one is a True Value and the other is Ace.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:04 PM
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8. It's the one
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:06 PM by MichaelHarris
across from Wassum's Drug store. Isn't it True Value-Ace? It's Shermans
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:09 PM
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11. Go back with camera, tell them you want a pict to send to FBI
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:11 PM
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16. Oh for fuck's sake n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:51 PM by FLDCVADem
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:15 PM
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22. Random dude.
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:17 PM by uppityperson
What does "Of for fuck's sake n/t" mean?

Right to free speech doesn't mean threats against president.

Thinking that this might get them to take those down on their own.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:53 PM
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27. Fixed it to say "Oh for fuck's sake"
and I stand by the sentiment.

A bumper sticker does not a threat make, no matter how offensive it might be.

Let 'em leave it up and show their ignorance.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:12 PM
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17. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!! It's not Ace it's True Value.
They are not the same. Why I asked was I didn't remember that Early Bird Supply having a fishing/hunting section. Definately sounded like Shermans though.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:15 PM
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23. Thanks for that!
I'm trying to fix it now. The do carry Ace stuff I think.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:09 PM
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12. K & R
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:09 PM
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13. The right to free speech does not include the right to make
threats against the President. Asshole should be reported to the SS.

Your idea of writing a letter is a good one, btw.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:10 PM
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14. I have a couple of terrific Ace's near me.
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:21 PM by TheCowsCameHome
I suspect the one you've been to is a franchise that happens to have a real jerk as an owner.

I doubt the mucky-mucks at Ace HQ will tolerate this BS. It's their good name that will be harmed if he behaves as you decribe.
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:13 PM
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19. go back and get some pictures
and post them. We can attach them to the e-mails we send.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:14 PM
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20. That's disgusting. The Ace Hardwares in my area are all
family run and are the best hardware stores in the area. None have anything like this. I'll write an email right now.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:14 PM
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21. Why does your name sound vaguely familiar?

I'm trying to place it, but... I can't. ?
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:22 PM
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24. This should be reported to the Secret Service...
This should be reported to the Secret Service. They might just pay the owner a visit. It is illegal to encourage the killing of a President.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:33 PM
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29. Secret service should be the first ones to know about this
Not the company
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:27 PM
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25. I understand your concern
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 08:47 PM by Stinky The Clown
On the other hand, our Ace guy had a giant Obama sign on the edge of his parking lot facing the highway to counter the bazillion PALIN/mclame signs our local right wing rich cray person funds every campaign.

On edit .... you changed your post. Was this about Ace or True Value?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:45 PM
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26. Notify the newspaper in your area. They'll be interested, perhaps.
Or, perhaps not, if the store advertises regularly.
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flpab Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:22 PM
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28. email sent
I so hate this crap.
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WallStreetNobody Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:49 PM
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30. K&R ... anyone know a reporter to send into the store to take video and ask questions?
n/t
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:12 AM
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31. Turn them in to the government. This really is unacceptable.
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