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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:45 AM
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Does anyone REALLY care if Alito bobbed and muttered?
Oh it's great drama - and never let it be said the media and blogosphere let a good drama go to waste.

but seriously


Do you care?


If Alito bob and mutter or not - regardless - changes nothing. The ruling still sucks ass. His behavior on screen is meaningless IMHO. His behavior on his job is VERY meaningful though.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:49 AM
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1. I could care less really. Just another media issue to distract us, IMO. nt
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:51 AM
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2. I had no respect for him before.
But in the legal community a Justice doing something like that, making a public demonstration of partisanship, is a pretty big deal.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:52 AM
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3. not really. n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:55 AM
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4. No but I DO care that he lied under oath at his confirmation hearing
And I care that he seems to favor the interests of the wealthy over the American people in his decisions.

I would not mind seein an impeachment movement started to get rid of his ass.

For no other reason than to scare him and his butt buddies in that gang of five.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:10 AM
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9. Ramen.
I would love to see him bob & mutter & shat his robes during an impeachment hearing.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:57 AM
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5. Nope- I cared about keeping him off of the court
but the Democrats were too pathetic to keep an extremist and demonstrably unethical federal judge who lied to them in previous hearings, off of the Supreme Court.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:02 AM
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6. The problem is which interpretation sticks with the public.
Obama was rude to the Supreme Court.
Or
Alito was rude and inaapropriate for a SCJustice.

Hopefully, it will blow over.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:30 AM
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10. The problem
is that Obama called out the SCOTUS in front of a live national TV audience. Whether or not one believes he was correct in what he said, it is just stupid to alienate the Court. Ideology aside, members of the Court are going to stick with each other over the other branches of government.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:36 AM
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22. Precisely - One BIG DISTRACTION
The senators love the limelight

Where are some substantive actions or plans to fix the SC ruling that were the sunstance of the so-called Alito mumbleing and head nodding?

Better time could be spent trying to fix the health care crap of a bill or getting substantive cuts in greenhouse gases or fighting our defacto knee jerk military/imperialist over-reach reactions to the world's problems..............
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:02 AM
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7. Not really.
It's not like anyone is surprised that he would disagree, right?
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:05 AM
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8. Nope!
Seems to me we are all in a hand basket heading south, and this is just another attempt by the media to distract us from that reality!!

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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:01 AM
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11. I think the reaction is overblown...
Whereas I don't think the reaction to the ruling is overblown.
People were wondering what the "You Lie!" moment was going to be during this speech, and there it is.
Now people who were looking for something negative to focus on have their issue.
Actually, I'm glad Scalito did that, he showed his true colors, and now can be treated as the partisan hack that he is.
However, some of the bombast is over the top.
Kinda silly, actually.
Makes us look like Republican Pissypantses...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:03 AM
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12. I suppose people skills isn't in the SCOTUS job description.
but it's still pretty strange and slightly disturbing.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:08 AM
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13. No, it's just fodder for those inclined toward the cheap shot.

It wasn't a big deal and didn't rise to the Joe "you lie" Wilson transgression.


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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:09 AM
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14. It might bring some unwanted negative attention
to the almighty Alito, which will probably just make him all the more annoying and political in the future... but otherwise it's just another nail in the coffin to actually having responsible governing.

I dunno...maybe it has always been this utterly pathetic in Congress and the Supreme Court. We are just becoming privy to how immature (and frightening)it really is with the deterioration of real news reporting and the permeating gossip pandering blather that passes for news these days. It's all a matter of hiding behind *honorable* words anyway. Not nearly enough people at that level are honorable in any way.

pretty damned depressing
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:25 AM
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15. It emphasizes his ignorance. The decision confirmed it.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:25 AM
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16. Doesn't bother me at all
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:29 AM
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17. I care and hears why...
his action set a very dangerous precedent.

prior to this event, the supreme court was supposed to give the guise of being non-partisan. (granted, reality dictates otherwise), but his actions now fling open the door for any slow witted moron that sits on that bench to voice his or her opinion. That degrades the branch. That makes it obviously partisan. That is a further eroding of our government.

I know it's impossible but alito should be censored for allowing his stupidity get the best of him and degrading the judicial branch of the USA.

But alas, to find ethics of any kind in washington is much harder than finding a needle in a hay stack.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:18 AM
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18. No, I don't. It's made up drama to boost TV ratings and be talk radio fodder.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:25 AM
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19. it's a matter of respect....i don't care about joe wilson, but i do care that he respects Obama
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:27 AM
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20. I'm just unhappy Herr Alito is there.
:grr:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:31 AM
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21. People got a rush from the callout and a bigger rush
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 10:33 AM by blondeatlast
from the reaction. I find no fault whatsoever with that. If people want to talk about it, it's fine by me.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:39 AM
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23. Here's why we should care:
As any teacher and many parents know, there are certain kids who will constantly test their limits. The only way to handle them is to be stern and consistent - and fast. The GOP has trained the Dems really well, with their faux outrage at every misstep. They get it. It works. Time to return the favor and set some limits.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:40 AM
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24. I kind of do from having been in courtrooms where judges whine
if anyone shows the least reaction to their most outrageous and wrongheaded rulings or statements. So it seems there should be no double standard on them for things they don't agree with.

From years of such things, I have developed a dislike for snooty judges that rivals many a DUers hate for "corporations." I recognize there are good ones. I just figure Alito for one of those who mistakes being elevated to the bench for a personal pat on the back and handing him keys to a kingdom rather than just an interpreter of the law.

Judges should be picked by a super bar exam, whoever gets the highest scores about knowing the law should be a judge, not political appointees or even elections.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:49 AM
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25. I do, actually. It indicates that he's got his ego wrapped up in his judicial rulings.
That means he'll be emotionally invested into holding onto positions long after whatever reasoning abilities he otherwise possesses would tell him he should make different decisions. That doesn't result in good law.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:09 AM
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26. Mildly.
The exchange ratcheted up, at least a little, the amount of cynicism and ill-will.

And it makes what needs to be an issue of reason into a partisan, populist tool.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:42 PM
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27. Nope.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:45 PM
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28. It's funny how many people are getting up in arms about Alito being "partisan" when they
would be thrilled to have a blatantly liberal judges on the SC to take his place.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:55 PM
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29. Sure, he did it! He's not supposed to clap but he pursed his lips in disgust and
uttered words in opposition. I see nothing wrong with talking about it. He did it. He did it. And maybe if the heat is turned up on him he won't do it again. Otherwise what is stopping him?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:58 PM
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30. No. He's a boob regardless. He could have been applauding and I'd still think that.
eom
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:00 PM
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31. Not really
But if he disagrees with Obama's take on the ruling then I would like him to make it clear what the ruling meant.

It's fine to roll your eyes and mutter in disagree ment. Just explain to me why you are right (it's your damn ruling ferrcrissake) and why Obama is wrong.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:05 PM
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32. Yes, I care about it. REALLY!
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 11:07 PM by TexasObserver
Do you realize that when you start such a thread with that kind of post, you're really saying "I don't think it's any big deal, so why should you?"

And, that's why I'm unrecommending it.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:47 AM
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34. In all truth
I wasn't making judgement - I just don't get why the talking point of the day in the media translates to every other post on the DU. I have wondered this a long time.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:07 PM
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33. maybe you're concerned that you don't comprehend tradition or decorum
you care enough to post this OP claiming you don't care.
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