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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:29 PM
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Maybe this Supreme Court ruling will energize the Democratic base and get people more concerned
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:32 PM by Tony_FLADEM
about the influence of Corporations in our political system and this will help Democrats.

Perhaps.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:32 PM
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1. Perhaps..................
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:34 PM
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2. The problem is....
...the SC ruling also gives a lot more power to labor unions, which our party members are afraid to offend (note the sweet deal unions got in the now-defunct health care negotiations--being exempt from the Cadillac health plan tax!)
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:36 PM
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3. I don't think labor unions are our problem.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:36 PM
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4. Are you saying that union health care plans SHOULD be taxed?
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:46 PM
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7. Honestly...
...I don't know enough about the issue to answer your question. However, if we ever do get a health care reform bill passed, regardless of its size & scope, it HAS TO BE PAID FOR. This means we--all of us--will have to give up some of our hard-earned dollars, be it in the form of taxes, fees, or whatever
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:36 PM
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5. Unions don't want that money this way. (nt)
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:49 PM
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9. Labor unions don't have too much power here in the US. They are distrusted.
Not like big corps...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:55 PM
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11. empower the unions NOT the corporations.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:38 PM
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6. If my facebook friends are any indication---this is being met by yawns and kool-aid sips
It really is amazing how many so-called liberals repeat right wing propaganda.

I really believe that Robert Frost quote about a liberal being a man so broad-minded he refuses to take his own side in an argument.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:48 PM
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8. same here. No one even gets it, or cares.
I'm seriously thinking of moving to my husband's home country (france)..staying here and fighting is what I want to do, but no one seems to care, and I just come off as a nutball.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:51 PM
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10. I'm really starting to grow more and more furious with uninformed liberals
So many of my uninformed friends make right wing points (like "acknowledging" that there's a liberal media), they perceive the whole political spectrum backwards, and when the chips are down, they really just don't give a shit. They're like the D's in Congress--would often rather impress a right winger than defend their ideology.

Is there something in the liberal psychological makeup that leans toward self-sabotage? I really think so.
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